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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 33,373
    now i know where my tax dollars go........... =)
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • dbCooper
    dbCooper Posts: 2,406
    Learned of a new (to me) vocation today, "Professional Sh!t Poster".  Pay and benefits unspecified.
    LBGE, LBGE-PTR, 22" Weber, Coleman 413G
    Great Plains, USA
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 33,373
    dbCooper said:
    Learned of a new (to me) vocation today, "Professional Sh!t Poster".  Pay and benefits unspecified.

    it just comes with the title...... =)
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • dbCooper
    dbCooper Posts: 2,406
    New land speed record for wheelbarrows has been set . . .

    LBGE, LBGE-PTR, 22" Weber, Coleman 413G
    Great Plains, USA
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 33,816

    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • Ike
    Ike Posts: 333
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    Owensboro, KY.  First Eggin' 4/12/08.  Large, small, 22" Blackstone and lotsa goodies.
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 33,816
    Seems appropriate given the heat dome!

    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • Gulfcoastguy
    Gulfcoastguy Posts: 6,697
    lousubcap said:
    Seems appropriate given the heat dome!

    That reminds me, I have to go plug mine in about 10:00pm.
  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,421

    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • Foghorn
    Foghorn Posts: 10,048
    So - 

    Greatest baseball player of all time?

    Willie Mays?

    Hank Aaron?

    Babe Ruth?

    Other?

    XXL BGE, Karebecue, Klose BYC, Chargiller Akorn Kamado, Weber Smokey Mountain, Grand Turbo gasser, Weber Smoky Joe, and the wheelbarrow that my grandfather used to cook steaks from his cattle

    San Antonio, TX

  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,421
    Foghorn said:
    So - 

    Greatest baseball player of all time?

    Willie Mays?

    Hank Aaron?

    Babe Ruth?

    Other?
    Not sure I have a strong opinion other than to say I think Teddy Ballgame should be in the mix (Ted Williams).  DiMaggio too.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 16,186
    ___________

    "When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set."

    - Lin Yutang


  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 33,816
    Greatest ballplayer of all time?  That is too tough for me to wrestle with. As baseball has more data and stats from the origins of the game gives you almost too much data compressed into the numbers.  But then the eras of the game impact the numbers.  So in summary I will play politician and pass w/o using any more waffle-words.
    However, I will offer ten would would likely hit everyone's list in no particular order;
    Ted Williams, Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Joe DiMaggio, Stan Musial, Henry Aaron, Willy Mays, Lou Gehrig, Cy Young, Christy Mathewson.


    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 33,373
    im leaning towards dom over joe, just because he was a nice guy and i did work for him for alot of years starting with a tuna tower and then a pulpit for his boat. he worked and owned a company making carpeting for chrystler pretty much to the end after retirement from baseball. i was in his place pretty much weekly for years. he had two places of manufacture for carpet, one high tech and one very old school, his office was in the old school plant
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • StillH2OEgger
    StillH2OEgger Posts: 3,829
    edited June 21
    lousubcap said:
    Greatest ballplayer of all time?  That is too tough for me to wrestle with. As baseball has more data and stats from the origins of the game gives you almost too much data compressed into the numbers.  But then the eras of the game impact the numbers.  So in summary I will play politician and pass w/o using any more waffle-words.
    However, I will offer ten would would likely hit everyone's list in no particular order;
    Ted Williams, Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Joe DiMaggio, Stan Musial, Henry Aaron, Willy Mays, Lou Gehrig, Cy Young, Christy Mathewson.


    No issues with any of those players, but I can't buy the idea that there isn't a single player in the last 45 years or so that couldn't or shouldn't be considered the greatest of all time -- even if you avoid the obvious PED players, which I do.
    Stillwater, MN
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 33,816
    Totally fair point.  Before I offer you to post up nominees, I will serve up - Mike Trout, Miguel Cabrera and the greatest fireballer-Nolan Ryan.  Over to you.  
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,421
    lousubcap said:
    Greatest ballplayer of all time?  That is too tough for me to wrestle with. As baseball has more data and stats from the origins of the game gives you almost too much data compressed into the numbers.  But then the eras of the game impact the numbers.  So in summary I will play politician and pass w/o using any more waffle-words.
    However, I will offer ten would would likely hit everyone's list in no particular order;
    Ted Williams, Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Joe DiMaggio, Stan Musial, Henry Aaron, Willy Mays, Lou Gehrig, Cy Young, Christy Mathewson.


    No issues with any of those players, but I can't buy the idea that there isn't a single player in the last 45 years or so that couldn't or shouldn't be considered the greatest of all time -- even if you avoid the obvious PED players, which I do.
    I understand your argument, but the hard part are the statistics.  Look at career batting average, for example.  You have to go pretty far down the list until you find a player from the last 45 years.

    So then you’re left with arguing that pitching and fielding have improved considerably over the last half century plus, and this helps explain the stats.  But this makes the discussion one that becomes rather subjective, at which point anything goes.  

    For me, a more interesting way to approach this might be to ask who the best player was, by decade.  There at least the stats can be compared across the board.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 33,373
    the dh is always over looked......big papi isnt the best ball player but makes the top of the legend list
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • StillH2OEgger
    StillH2OEgger Posts: 3,829
    the dh is always over looked......big papi isnt the best ball player but makes the top of the legend list
    Like a lot of players, he certainly became better when the PEDs entered the picture.
    Stillwater, MN
  • StillH2OEgger
    StillH2OEgger Posts: 3,829
    It's a fun topic no matter where you happen to fall, and we all have biases towards players we likely watched more regularly on our favorite teams.

    Trout is the one the jumps immediately to mind for me from more recent decades, but I also don't think anyone likely played shortstop as well as Ozzie Smith. Who knows what the next several years holds, but I wouldn't bet against a healthy Ohtani, either. Skill level can be debated, but today's athletes in every sport are just bigger, faster and stronger and that's not an insult to previous generations of players. I'm not exactly a spring chicken and also get nostalgic, but I just think today's players are inherently better. I don't think Pete Rose was a better hitter than Ichiro, for example.
    Stillwater, MN
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 33,816

    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 33,373
    the dh is always over looked......big papi isnt the best ball player but makes the top of the legend list
    Like a lot of players, he certainly became better when the PEDs entered the picture.

    only the salty yankee fans believe that........ =)
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • dbCooper
    dbCooper Posts: 2,406

    LBGE, LBGE-PTR, 22" Weber, Coleman 413G
    Great Plains, USA
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 33,816

    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 16,186
    Okay, Survey Question of the Week: which show was the funniest of all time: The Carol Burnett Show (Tim Conway years), or Whose Line Is It Anyway?
    A sample:
     
    https://youtu.be/3qqE_WmagjY?si=m83NtF-jOUeIL6Ly
     
    https://youtu.be/SKj-dvLMEps?si=D3qm4Hg6Qi4Cj0j5
     

    ___________

    "When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set."

    - Lin Yutang


  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 15,157
    Small pool of potential respond with only those choices and RRP away for a while. I'll go with It's Always Sunny, Arrested Development and the Office.
    Not a felon
  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 16,186
    I was going to make a standalone thread on the main forum about this, but it's funny that Kenji's technique for evenly-dicing an onion is more mathematically accurate than Neil deGrasse-Tyson's!  
     
    https://youtu.be/k791LJXh4aQ?si=W1qHh0qFQR1wURvt
    ___________

    "When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set."

    - Lin Yutang


  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,421
    edited June 29
    Check this one out, @lousubcap

    Ford CEO Jim Farley discusses the rapid evolution of electric vehicles


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6eq8ABvyYQ
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • Gulfcoastguy
    Gulfcoastguy Posts: 6,697
    Some US companies have already been caught selling drivers data to insurance companies already. GM is one of those companies. In the other hand cellphones already send incredible amounts of data to Google.