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  • dmchicago
    dmchicago Posts: 4,516

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  • dmchicago
    dmchicago Posts: 4,516
    Apparently this is real, so, yeah…


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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,764
    dmchicago said:
    Apparently this is real, so, yeah…


    I saw this and thought well that can't be real, because it's a tweet and Trump is still banned from Twitter.

    But then I realized... its not a tweet, it's a "truth" - from his Truth Social platform.  And why am I not surprised about any of this....
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380

    And yet this actually just happened a few days ago:

    Trumpy and his cult members are like that 5 year old boy that was caught taking a cookie out of the cookie jar but then, cookie still in hand, tries to blame it on his little sister.
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,764
    HeavyG said:

    And yet this actually just happened a few days ago:

    Trumpy and his cult members are like that 5 year old boy that was caught taking a cookie out of the cookie jar but then, cookie still in hand, tries to blame it on his little sister.
    also related


    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 16,287
    edited May 2022
    ^^^  I wrote about how much I like a really good political cartoon; that one is among my favorites (and just in case someone doesn't recognize him, the old man in the center is rupert murdoch, founder of faux news).  
     

     

    ___________

    "When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set."

    - Lin Yutang


  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    Rupert is a true patriot - who became a US citizen (he's really an Aussie) just so he could own some US tv stations.
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • littlerascal56
    littlerascal56 Posts: 2,106
    edited May 2022
    Thinking November 8th will be a good day for Republicans, and even a better day for the country.  
    Don’t think Elon will be suppressed like our students at Ivy League colleges. He won’t be intimidated… Elon….welcome to the club!
    Dems have nothing to run on but fearmongering.
  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 16,287

    Robert Reich's daily email was particularly sobering today (bolding is mine):

     

    Decades ago, America’s wealthy backed a Republican establishment that believed in fiscal conservatism, anti-communism, and constitutional democracy. But today’s billionaire class is pushing a radically anti-democratic agenda for America — backing Trump’s lie that the 2020 election was stolen, calling for restrictions on voting, and even questioning the value of democracy.

    Peter Thiel, the billionaire tech financier who is among those leading the charge, writes “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.”

    Thiel is using his fortune to squelch democracy. He donated $15 million to the successful Republican Ohio senatorial primary campaign of J.D. Vance, who alleges that the 2020 election was stolen and that Biden’s immigration policy has meant “more Democrat voters pouring into this country.” And Thiel has donated at least $10 million to the Arizona Republican primary race of Blake Masters, who also claims Trump won the 2020 election and admires Lee Kuan Yew, the authoritarian founder of modern Singapore.

    The former generation of wealthy conservatives backed candidates like Barry Goldwater, who wanted to conserve American institutions. Thiel and his fellow billionaires in the anti-democracy movement don’t want to conserve much of anything — at least not anything that occurred after the 1920s, including Social Security, civil rights, and even women’s right to vote. As Thiel wrote:

    The 1920s were the last decade in American history during which one could be genuinely optimistic about politics. Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and the extension of the franchise to women — two constituencies that are notoriously tough for libertarians — have rendered the notion of “capitalist democracy” into an oxymoron.

    Rubbish. If “capitalist democracy” is becoming an oxymoron, it’s not because of public assistance or because women got the right to vote. It’s because billionaire capitalists like Thiel are drowning democracy in giant campaign donations to authoritarian candidates who repeat Trump’s big lie. 

    Not incidentally, the 1920s marked the last gasp of the Gilded Age, when America’s rich ripped off so much of the nation’s wealth that the rest had to go deep into debt both to maintain their standard of living and to maintain overall demand for the goods and services the nation produced. When that debt bubble burst in 1929, we got the Great Depression.

    It was also the decade when Benito Mussolini and Adolph Hitler emerged to create the worst threats to freedom and democracy the modern world had ever witnessed.

    If freedom is not compatible with democracy, what is it compatible with?  

    On Tuesday night, Doug Mastriano, a January 6 insurrectionist and Trump-backed Big Lie conspiracy theorist, won the Republican nomination for governor of Pennsylvania (the fourth largest state in the country, and the biggest state that flipped from 2016 to 2020). Mastriano was directly involved in a scheme to overturn the 2020 election by sending an “alternate” slate of pro-Trump electors to the Electoral College — despite the fact that Trump lost Pennsylvania by more than 80,000 votes. If Mastriano wins in November, he will appoint Pennsylvania’s secretary of state, who will oversee the 2024 election results in one of the most important battleground states in the country.

    Meanwhile, the major annual event of the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) — the premier convening organization of the American political right — starts today in Budapest. That’s no accident. The Hungarian prime minister Viktor Orban and his ruling Fidesz party have become a prominent source of inspiration for America’s anti-democracy movement. Stephen Bannon, Trump’s former adviser, describes Orban’s agenda as that of a “Trump before Trump.”

    Orban has used his opposition to immigration, LGBTQ rights, abortion, and religions other than Christianity as cover for his move toward autocracy — rigging Hungary’s election laws so his party stays in power, capturing independent agencies, controlling the judiciary, and muzzling the press. He remains on such good terms with Vladimir Putin that he’s refused to agree to Europe’s proposed embargo of Russian oil. 

    Tucker Carlson — Fox News’s progenitor of white replacement theory — will be speaking at CPAC and broadcasting his show from Budapest. Trump’s former chief of staff Mark Meadows will also be speaking (although he refuses to speak to the House committee investigating the January 6 assault on American democracy).

    If America and the world should have learned anything from the first Gilded Age and the fascism that began growing like a cancer in the 1920s, it’s that gross inequalities of income and wealth fuel gross inequalities of political power — which in turn lead to strongmen who destroy both democracy and freedom.

    Peter Thiel may define freedom as the capacity to amass extraordinary wealth without paying taxes on it, but most of us define it as living under the rule of law with rights against arbitrary authority and a voice in what’s decided.

    If we want to guard what’s left of our freedom, we’ll need to meet today’s anti-democracy movement with a bold pro-democracy movement that protects the institutions of self-government both from authoritarian strongmen like Trump and his wannabes, and from big money like Peter Thiel’s

    ___________

    "When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set."

    - Lin Yutang


  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,764
    Botch said:

    Robert Reich's daily email was particularly sobering today (bolding is mine):

     

    Decades ago, America’s wealthy backed a Republican establishment that believed in fiscal conservatism, anti-communism, and constitutional democracy. But today’s billionaire class is pushing a radically anti-democratic agenda for America — backing Trump’s lie that the 2020 election was stolen, calling for restrictions on voting, and even questioning the value of democracy.

    Peter Thiel, the billionaire tech financier who is among those leading the charge, writes “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.”

    Thiel is using his fortune to squelch democracy. He donated $15 million to the successful Republican Ohio senatorial primary campaign of J.D. Vance, who alleges that the 2020 election was stolen and that Biden’s immigration policy has meant “more Democrat voters pouring into this country.” And Thiel has donated at least $10 million to the Arizona Republican primary race of Blake Masters, who also claims Trump won the 2020 election and admires Lee Kuan Yew, the authoritarian founder of modern Singapore.

    The former generation of wealthy conservatives backed candidates like Barry Goldwater, who wanted to conserve American institutions. Thiel and his fellow billionaires in the anti-democracy movement don’t want to conserve much of anything — at least not anything that occurred after the 1920s, including Social Security, civil rights, and even women’s right to vote. As Thiel wrote:

    The 1920s were the last decade in American history during which one could be genuinely optimistic about politics. Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and the extension of the franchise to women — two constituencies that are notoriously tough for libertarians — have rendered the notion of “capitalist democracy” into an oxymoron.

    Rubbish. If “capitalist democracy” is becoming an oxymoron, it’s not because of public assistance or because women got the right to vote. It’s because billionaire capitalists like Thiel are drowning democracy in giant campaign donations to authoritarian candidates who repeat Trump’s big lie. 

    Not incidentally, the 1920s marked the last gasp of the Gilded Age, when America’s rich ripped off so much of the nation’s wealth that the rest had to go deep into debt both to maintain their standard of living and to maintain overall demand for the goods and services the nation produced. When that debt bubble burst in 1929, we got the Great Depression.

    It was also the decade when Benito Mussolini and Adolph Hitler emerged to create the worst threats to freedom and democracy the modern world had ever witnessed.

    If freedom is not compatible with democracy, what is it compatible with?  

    On Tuesday night, Doug Mastriano, a January 6 insurrectionist and Trump-backed Big Lie conspiracy theorist, won the Republican nomination for governor of Pennsylvania (the fourth largest state in the country, and the biggest state that flipped from 2016 to 2020). Mastriano was directly involved in a scheme to overturn the 2020 election by sending an “alternate” slate of pro-Trump electors to the Electoral College — despite the fact that Trump lost Pennsylvania by more than 80,000 votes. If Mastriano wins in November, he will appoint Pennsylvania’s secretary of state, who will oversee the 2024 election results in one of the most important battleground states in the country.

    Meanwhile, the major annual event of the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) — the premier convening organization of the American political right — starts today in Budapest. That’s no accident. The Hungarian prime minister Viktor Orban and his ruling Fidesz party have become a prominent source of inspiration for America’s anti-democracy movement. Stephen Bannon, Trump’s former adviser, describes Orban’s agenda as that of a “Trump before Trump.”

    Orban has used his opposition to immigration, LGBTQ rights, abortion, and religions other than Christianity as cover for his move toward autocracy — rigging Hungary’s election laws so his party stays in power, capturing independent agencies, controlling the judiciary, and muzzling the press. He remains on such good terms with Vladimir Putin that he’s refused to agree to Europe’s proposed embargo of Russian oil. 

    Tucker Carlson — Fox News’s progenitor of white replacement theory — will be speaking at CPAC and broadcasting his show from Budapest. Trump’s former chief of staff Mark Meadows will also be speaking (although he refuses to speak to the House committee investigating the January 6 assault on American democracy).

    If America and the world should have learned anything from the first Gilded Age and the fascism that began growing like a cancer in the 1920s, it’s that gross inequalities of income and wealth fuel gross inequalities of political power — which in turn lead to strongmen who destroy both democracy and freedom.

    Peter Thiel may define freedom as the capacity to amass extraordinary wealth without paying taxes on it, but most of us define it as living under the rule of law with rights against arbitrary authority and a voice in what’s decided.

    If we want to guard what’s left of our freedom, we’ll need to meet today’s anti-democracy movement with a bold pro-democracy movement that protects the institutions of self-government both from authoritarian strongmen like Trump and his wannabes, and from big money like Peter Thiel’s

    This all just seems so crazy to me.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • dmchicago
    dmchicago Posts: 4,516

    Are you legit 5 years old?
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  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 15,265
    It’s too bad the Post didn’t run a screenshot of OAN doing a story on a Truth Social post so Fox could complete the cycle, way more credibility that way.
    Love you bro!
  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    edited May 2022
    Peter Thiel - loves the US so much that he bought himself New Zealand citizenship (which he cheated the normal process thanks to a friendly NZ politician) so he has a nice democracy to escape to when things go sideways in the States. He also already had German citizensip as a native German.
    Personally, I'm against the practice of allowing/respecting dual/multi citizenship so we should just make him choose to be a NZ or German citizen. And then not give him a Green Card. :)

    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • dmchicago
    dmchicago Posts: 4,516
    But I thought Gaetz liked babies???
    Philly - Kansas City - Houston - Cincinnati - Dallas - Houston - Memphis - Austin - Chicago - Austin

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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    dmchicago said:
    But I thought Gaetz liked babies???
    He likes to f*ck ‘em, which is true in both these situations 
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    edited May 2022
    smiley face
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    I love lamp..
  • dmchicago
    dmchicago Posts: 4,516
    This should be something. 


    Philly - Kansas City - Houston - Cincinnati - Dallas - Houston - Memphis - Austin - Chicago - Austin

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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,764
    “Dark MAGA” - and they say it’s not a cult…
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 16,287
    edited May 2022
    So did he mean "gentle", or "genteel"?  "Gentile" doesn't make sense, here.  
    [/grammargeek]
    ___________

    "When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set."

    - Lin Yutang


  • littlerascal56
    littlerascal56 Posts: 2,106
    “Dark MAGA” - and they say it’s not a cult…

    DARK MAGA….is a group of internet Trolls.  Very similar to the many trolls we have on this forum?  A cult???  Come on John…we are not a bunch of naive college students that can be brainwashed easily.

  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,764
    Botch said:
    So did he mean "gentle", or "genteel"?  "Gentile" doesn't make sense, here.  
    [/grammargeek]
    If I recall Madison isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed, so it’s anyone’s guess what he meant.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,764


    "Should I not have done that?  Was that... wrong?" - Elon "Costanza" Musk, probably
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 33,537


    "Should I not have done that?  Was that... wrong?" - Elon "Costanza" Musk, probably

    would that be wrong in outer space. if he was over montreal it may be perfectly legal
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,764


    pretty sure that’s against the law, but ok 
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike