Vaccine Today, here we go!

lousubcap

Johnson and Johnson is developing (and in trials) a single shot vaccine that can be held at regular fridge freezer temps and supposedly cheap.  it takes the approach of introducing the virus and then developing the anti-bodies, in my truly lay-man's understanding.  Should be approved beginning of Q-2 2021.  
Hope for an easily deliverable vaccine.  FWIW-

PigBeanUs

nolaegghead said:

SWMBO had a patient in his 60s.  A cajun guy, a real character.

Anyway, long story short - he had the normal symptoms, low O2 saturation, etc.  Got back from some test(s), chest xray or something, and wanted gumbo.  Wouldn't shut up about it.  Even though we're in Louisiana, hospitals don't have 24/7 gumbo for patients.  Maybe occasionally it will show up on the menu.

Nice guy, 100% lucid except for the loud and unending penchant for gumbo.  SWMBO somehow actually found him some gumbo.  Guy ate it, happy as hell.  Few hours later, died (on the next nurse's shift).  What was remarkable was he didn't look or act that sick.  Usually patients end up dying in the ICU, but they do have them go (from Covid) in other units. 

Sadly, we will be seeing more and more people dying on chairs in the waiting room, in their cars and homes as they can't get a bed and potentially life-saving treatment.  This also goes for anyone who needs emergency medical care for other reasons.

But hey, f*ckin freedom isn't free.

Um. Check the fvcking gumbo maybe?

nolaegghead

PigBeanUs said:

nolaegghead said:

SWMBO had a patient in his 60s.  A cajun guy, a real character.

Anyway, long story short - he had the normal symptoms, low O2 saturation, etc.  Got back from some test(s), chest xray or something, and wanted gumbo.  Wouldn't shut up about it.  Even though we're in Louisiana, hospitals don't have 24/7 gumbo for patients.  Maybe occasionally it will show up on the menu.

Nice guy, 100% lucid except for the loud and unending penchant for gumbo.  SWMBO somehow actually found him some gumbo.  Guy ate it, happy as hell.  Few hours later, died (on the next nurse's shift).  What was remarkable was he didn't look or act that sick.  Usually patients end up dying in the ICU, but they do have them go (from Covid) in other units. 

Sadly, we will be seeing more and more people dying on chairs in the waiting room, in their cars and homes as they can't get a bed and potentially life-saving treatment.  This also goes for anyone who needs emergency medical care for other reasons.

But hey, f*ckin freedom isn't free.

Um. Check the fvcking gumbo maybe?

"Novichok?  I swear the shaker said Gumbo File!"

CTMike

nolaegghead said:

PigBeanUs said:

nolaegghead said:

SWMBO had a patient in his 60s.  A cajun guy, a real character.

Anyway, long story short - he had the normal symptoms, low O2 saturation, etc.  Got back from some test(s), chest xray or something, and wanted gumbo.  Wouldn't shut up about it.  Even though we're in Louisiana, hospitals don't have 24/7 gumbo for patients.  Maybe occasionally it will show up on the menu.

Nice guy, 100% lucid except for the loud and unending penchant for gumbo.  SWMBO somehow actually found him some gumbo.  Guy ate it, happy as hell.  Few hours later, died (on the next nurse's shift).  What was remarkable was he didn't look or act that sick.  Usually patients end up dying in the ICU, but they do have them go (from Covid) in other units. 

Sadly, we will be seeing more and more people dying on chairs in the waiting room, in their cars and homes as they can't get a bed and potentially life-saving treatment.  This also goes for anyone who needs emergency medical care for other reasons.

But hey, f*ckin freedom isn't free.

Um. Check the fvcking gumbo maybe?

"Novichok?  I swear the shaker said Gumbo File!"

So you’re saying Bridget might be Jane Toppan reincarnated? 😎

BigGreenBean

I would roll up my sleeve now if I could. Can't understand the flat earth crowd that won't.  F'ers will keep us in masks and out of restaurants needlessly for far longer than necessary.  

blind99

BigGreenBean said:

I would roll up my sleeve now if I could. Can't understand the flat earth crowd that won't.  F'ers will keep us in masks and out of restaurants needlessly for far longer than necessary.  

Man I miss restaurants. I REALLY want to sit in a Mexican restaurant and stuff my face with carne asada. I dream about the way Mexican restaurants smell!

nolaegghead

I haven't eaten in a restaurant since March.  I know the feeling all too well.

Botch

nolaegghead said:

PigBeanUs said:
Um. Check the fvcking gumbo maybe?

"Novichok?  I swear the shaker said Gumbo File!"

Novichok goes in the underwear, not the gumbo.
 
There's a sentence I never expected to write.  

Sweet100s

QDude said:

nolaegghead said:

He came over (no masks) with his GF after being at a 100 person wedding and we sent him away. 

[...] they are doing everything right 95% of the time - masks, social distancing, etc.  But then something special  comes up (graduation event, wedding, neighbor invites you over for a drink, ...) and 

THIS.  

The most careful person I know just got it.   When he told me I was so shocked I audibly gasped on the phone.  He said he traced it to a ONE MINUTE conversation he had with someone contagious.   I wanted to ask if he was wearing a mask, but didn't.  (It would not have helped his state of mind.)   

At least his wife and kids do not have it yet.

U_tarded

CTMike said:

nolaegghead said:

PigBeanUs said:

nolaegghead said:

SWMBO had a patient in his 60s.  A cajun guy, a real character.

Anyway, long story short - he had the normal symptoms, low O2 saturation, etc.  Got back from some test(s), chest xray or something, and wanted gumbo.  Wouldn't shut up about it.  Even though we're in Louisiana, hospitals don't have 24/7 gumbo for patients.  Maybe occasionally it will show up on the menu.

Nice guy, 100% lucid except for the loud and unending penchant for gumbo.  SWMBO somehow actually found him some gumbo.  Guy ate it, happy as hell.  Few hours later, died (on the next nurse's shift).  What was remarkable was he didn't look or act that sick.  Usually patients end up dying in the ICU, but they do have them go (from Covid) in other units. 

Sadly, we will be seeing more and more people dying on chairs in the waiting room, in their cars and homes as they can't get a bed and potentially life-saving treatment.  This also goes for anyone who needs emergency medical care for other reasons.

But hey, f*ckin freedom isn't free.

Um. Check the fvcking gumbo maybe?

"Novichok?  I swear the shaker said Gumbo File!"

So you’re saying Bridget might be Jane Toppan reincarnated? 😎

HeavyG

Sweet100s said:

QDude said:

nolaegghead said:

He came over (no masks) with his GF after being at a 100 person wedding and we sent him away. 

[...] they are doing everything right 95% of the time - masks, social distancing, etc.  But then something special  comes up (graduation event, wedding, neighbor invites you over for a drink, ...) and 

THIS.  

The most careful person I know just got it.   When he told me I was so shocked I audibly gasped on the phone.  He said he traced it to a ONE MINUTE conversation he had with someone contagious.   I wanted to ask if he was wearing a mask, but didn't.  (It would not have helped his state of mind.)   

At least his wife and kids do not have it yet.

Would have been more important for the contagious person speaking to have been wearing a mask.

Dondgc

nolaegghead said:

I haven't eaten in a restaurant since March.  I know the feeling all too well.

I have done outdoor dining.  But now that’s it’s too cool here to eat outdoors I’ve given up on restaurants. 

As a guy who has eaten breakfast out every day for at least 15 years, it’s a rough adjustment. 

nolaegghead

I did eat outside once maybe 4 months ago.

Canugghead

Eat out infrequently even before covid.

HughJass

I will be the unpopular one, I have no plans to get "The RONA" shot anytime soon, if ever.  Why some may ask, I have no faith in it.   It is as simple as that.   All the "talking heads" I have seen have been guessing about this from day one.  I will wear my mask when required like a good little boy.   Not really a sit in a bar kinda guy (why pay $5 for a beer when a 6-er is only 7), but have gone out for tacos a couple times.

JohnInCarolina

HughJass said:

I will be the unpopular one, I have no plans to get "The RONA" shot anytime soon, if ever.  Why some may ask, I have no faith in it.   It is as simple as that.   All the "talking heads" I have seen have been guessing about this from day one.  I will wear my mask when required like a good little boy.   Not really a sit in a bar kinda guy (why pay $5 for a beer when a 6-er is only 7), but have gone out for tacos a couple times.

Welcome to the forum, pal!

alaskanassasin

SIL got the first shot and never mentioned it, somehow it came up at Christmas dinner. 

nolaegghead

HughJass said:

I will be the unpopular one, I have no plans to get "The RONA" shot anytime soon, if ever.  Why some may ask, I have no faith in it.   It is as simple as that.   All the "talking heads" I have seen have been guessing about this from day one.  I will wear my mask when required like a good little boy.   Not really a sit in a bar kinda guy (why pay $5 for a beer when a 6-er is only 7), but have gone out for tacos a couple times.

Next you're going to tell us you don't believe in god because all the "talking heads" have been guessing about him from day one, but no one has actually seen him who isn't crazy.  Or not.  God knows.

PigBeanUs

“Look. I know that I am posting this from a pocket supercomputer, and that if I had a heart attack I’d want the best doctors possible, and although medicine has extended life expectancy far beyond God’s original design specs, and although math and science are responsible for every significant advancement from which I benefit, I just don’t trust the vaccines.”

“Because I saw some stuff on facebook, and that’s enough for me”

“signed: Critical Thinker”

(Said it before and have no problem saying it now: I don’t care if someone’s backward thinking, or poor education, or desperate fearful clinging to stone-age myths gets them killed. I care if it gets someone else killed.)

CTMike

PigBeanUs said:

“Look. I know that I am posting this from a pocket supercomputer, and that if I had a heart attack I’d want the best doctors possible, and although medicine has extended life expectancy far beyond God’s original design specs, and although math and science are responsible for every significant advancement from which I benefit, I just don’t trust the vaccines.”

“Because I saw some stuff on facebook, and that’s enough for me”

“signed: Critical Thinker”

(Said it before and have no problem saying it now: I don’t care if someone’s backward thinking, or poor education, or desperate fearful clinging to stone-age myths gets them killed. I care if it gets someone else killed.)

Shots fired 

HughJass

PigBeanUs said:

“Look. I know that I am posting this from a pocket supercomputer, and that if I had a heart attack I’d want the best doctors possible, and although medicine has extended life expectancy far beyond God’s original design specs, and although math and science are responsible for every significant advancement from which I benefit, I just don’t trust the vaccines.”

“Because I saw some stuff on facebook, and that’s enough for me”

“signed: Critical Thinker”

(Said it before and have no problem saying it now: I don’t care if someone’s backward thinking, or poor education, or desperate fearful clinging to stone-age myths gets them killed. I care if it gets someone else killed.)

I never said I don't trust vaccines...I just don't have any faith in the RONA vaccines at this point.  So I guess I'm backwards and stupid, thank you for setting me straight.

fiber_induced_deuce

In the immortal words of Tina Turner, “what’s faith got to do with it?”

These troll accounts are getting to be too much, amirite?

JohnInCarolina

I do admire the restraint in registering an obvious troll account under a handle that is essentially “Huge Ass” and then waiting an entire year - in 2020, no less - to post with it.

nolaegghead

Takes some grit to wait that long.  Or one too many bourbons when registering only to realize the epiphany of the Huge Ass.

HughJass

PigBeanUs said:

“Look. I know that I am posting this from a pocket supercomputer, and that if I had a heart attack I’d want the best doctors possible, and although medicine has extended life expectancy far beyond God’s original design specs, and although math and science are responsible for every significant advancement from which I benefit, I just don’t trust the vaccines.”

“Because I saw some stuff on facebook, and that’s enough for me”

“signed: Critical Thinker”

(Said it before and have no problem saying it now: I don’t care if someone’s backward thinking, or poor education, or desperate fearful clinging to stone-age myths gets them killed. I care if it gets someone else killed.)

This is why I usually don'

JohnInCarolina said:

I do admire the restraint in registering an obvious troll account under a handle that is essentially “Huge Ass” and then waiting an entire year - in 2020, no less - to post with it.

Not quite a "troll" account...just  a replacement made when I was feeling a bit saucy one night when my original account password got hosed from my saved passwords and emails with reset password link never made it to my inbox (or any other email folder).   I just don't post often since this is such a judgemental crowd, and I'm obviously way too stupid to contribute.  

JohnInCarolina

@HughJass - well, in that case, I’m sure you won’t mind sharing the handle of your original account, so that we all know who we’re talking to here?

scdaf

I never said I don't trust vaccines...I just don't have any faith in the RONA vaccines at this point.  So I guess I'm backwards and stupid, thank you for setting me straight.

Have to give you credit for keen self-awareness.

Gulfcoastguy

If it wasn't for the contagious aspect, I would just let Darwin sort out the deniers. As I have said before I will take the vaccine just as soon as I'm told that it's my turn. The deniers might just speed up my turn.

blind99

Well, so far we've had over 20 million cases of covid in the US over about 1 year, and 300,000 deaths or so.  Real numbers are probably higher. 

2 million doses of vaccine given in the past few weeks, in the US, and it's very well tolerated.

My biggest fear about the vaccine will be it won't be effective, either because it wasn't handled right, or the virus changes.  But we'll have at least 5 vaccines within another year, and the technology to change the vaccine at will.


Can you imagine if we pulled off a mass innoculation campaign to rid the world of a highly contagious respiratory virus?  Oh wait, we've been doing that with measles for the past 60 years.  

Gulfcoastguy

The problem is that we need to vaccinate at least 250 million people. Giving shots is trailing actual vaccinations pretty badly so far.