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Interesting! The salmon guys on Superior here run downriggers/planers and we run leadcore to get crankbaits a bit deeper trolling for walleye, but i've never heard of copper line. Cool!fishlessman said:Botch said:
I gave up fishing when I was still in my teens; got tired of guys telling me "You shoulda been here yesterday/last week!"fishlessman said:
close, soldering fishing swivels to copper wire fishing lines
So I've been out of the loop for half a century. Copper fishing lines? Why?
salmon like 55 degree water, in the summer the water is 70 degrees plus from the surface down to about 45/50 feet. 200 feet of copper line gets me down deep where the fish are. i fish it off planer boards 75 feet off the side of the boat so with that setup i have a 150 foot wide spread when trolling which allows me to fish 10 or more rods depending on how many people are on board. typically fish two off the boards, two on rod jiggers working off windshield wipers off the side, two flat lead lines straight off the back, and two down riggers straight down. the idea is to spread everything out to avoid tangled lines. each rod has a different presentation and not every presentation works on a given day. typically trolling lines are lead core in maine, it sags and reacts differently than copper and monofilament and fly lines when fished. i have 16 rod holders and another area to tie extra rods up out of the way. im constantly changing setups til i find out whats working. -
FrostyEgg said:
Interesting! The salmon guys on Superior here run downriggers/planers and we run leadcore to get crankbaits a bit deeper trolling for walleye, but i've never heard of copper line. Cool!fishlessman said:Botch said:
I gave up fishing when I was still in my teens; got tired of guys telling me "You shoulda been here yesterday/last week!"fishlessman said:
close, soldering fishing swivels to copper wire fishing lines
So I've been out of the loop for half a century. Copper fishing lines? Why?
salmon like 55 degree water, in the summer the water is 70 degrees plus from the surface down to about 45/50 feet. 200 feet of copper line gets me down deep where the fish are. i fish it off planer boards 75 feet off the side of the boat so with that setup i have a 150 foot wide spread when trolling which allows me to fish 10 or more rods depending on how many people are on board. typically fish two off the boards, two on rod jiggers working off windshield wipers off the side, two flat lead lines straight off the back, and two down riggers straight down. the idea is to spread everything out to avoid tangled lines. each rod has a different presentation and not every presentation works on a given day. typically trolling lines are lead core in maine, it sags and reacts differently than copper and monofilament and fly lines when fished. i have 16 rod holders and another area to tie extra rods up out of the way. im constantly changing setups til i find out whats working.
used to run stainless but copper is easier to fix if it gets knotted. it sinks fast if you drop the speed way back, slow days you can drop the speed and it will fall down to a hundred feet, speed up and it rises to 50 feet, so you are fishing more water column. driving crazy ivan s patterns with the planers does this as well. the first 20 or so feet gets bent up a bit and it corkscrews thru the water so the lure is also moving up and down about ten feet in the water column as you troll. if you get highly frustrated with tangles and over spooling in the reel, this line would be a nightmare for you
lots of guides on the great lakes spool up with different lengths over backing, you dont want to use down rigger releases on the wire itself, only on the backing to avoid kinks. im trying out the 20 pound walleye copper line from bloodrun this year, usually run 45 pound copper
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That seems like a lot of work to catch fish you throw back. I guess the fun is in the hunt.______________________________________________I love lamp..
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Very interesting reading in the above few fishing posts. Learn something new dang near every day here.
Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint. -
Apparently a Flame Boss pit probe. It died in the middle of a cook when doing chicken the other night on the gravity fed smoker. I swapped it out for the PartyQ to get me through the cook.

I don't think the probe and seen more than 15 cooks with it. Always used in the gravity fed smoker so it never saw direct heat. That's pretty disappointing. Chicken came out though.
"The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan
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I think the Flame Boss uses RTD probes. Not the best choice in my opinion. They don’t need calibration but less durable, generally. Obviously you can have poorly made thermocouples and well made RTD probes. Just had better luck with the thermocouples in durability.______________________________________________I love lamp..
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Retirement Real Estate, Kiawah Island, SC, under 5 minutes walk to beach.
New Albany, Ohio -
Congratulations, beautiful area. I hang in the cheap seats twenty minutes north of you.THEBuckeye said:Retirement Real Estate, Kiawah Island, SC, under 5 minutes walk to beach.
LBGE, 36" Blackstone, Anova ProCharleston, SC -
Way to plan it out and get it done. Looks sweet @THEBuckeye. I am sure you will enjoy the "every day is Saturday" lifestyle. Acquire a device that not only lets you know time of day but day of the week...
Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint. -
"The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan
Minnesota -
Kiawah is a fantastic place, my sister and BIL have a place there. Love going to visit and enjoy the island club amenities- Cassique and River Course are two of my favorite tracks anywhere. Congrats on the acquisition and enjoy this new chapter.Greensboro, NC
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Beautiful!!THEBuckeye said:Retirement Real Estate, Kiawah Island, SC, under 5 minutes walk to beach.
I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.
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Very nice!______________________________________________I love lamp..
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Random Amazon order, including:
Outdoor pillows
S-hooks to help organize closets
Frame for SWMBO Jr's spring musical poster
Pen (For SWMBO Jr to give SWMBO as a Mother's Day present)
Sparkly gold dress & matching shoelaces for Dr. Martens for SWMBO Jr to wear to Taylor Swift concert
LBGE
Pikesville, MD
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Oil extractor pic!Large, Medium, MiniMax, 36" Blackstone
Grand Rapids MI -
Awesome, how did it work?______________________________________________I love lamp..
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Worked great! Oil was cold as cart battery was dead. Previous owner must have used an impact gun to get the oil filter on.nolaegghead said:Awesome, how did it work?Large, Medium, MiniMax, 36" Blackstone
Grand Rapids MI -
I have to admit that I’ve been intrigued by this exchange, but I haven’t followed it that closely. For someone who does their own oil changes on vehicles, is this a recommended item? I feel like this good be a good excuse to tell my wife I have to buy more tools.kl8ton said:
Worked great! Oil was cold as cart battery was dead. Previous owner must have used an impact gun to get the oil filter on.nolaegghead said:Awesome, how did it work? -
Got some new kicks for the truck. When I pulled in on the old tires, the tire guy said "Um, sir those are dead.". Hauling some horses this weekend and didn't want to risk it on the wore out ones.

I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.
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I change my oil the old fashioned way, I climb my fat @$$ underneath it and take the little bolt out, draining hot motor oil down my arm, ruining my t-shirt and staining my garage floor. Then, I cuss at the stuck oil filter for 10 minutes, until I finally hammer a screwdriver through the side of it and tear it off. This is followed by more cussing and installing the new oil filter which I usually leave on the other side of the garage instead of taking it under the car with me.
The best part is the one out of 10 times I fail to see that the old gasket is still attached to the oil filter sealing surface, causing the new filter to spray $36 worth of new synthetic oil all over the garage and underside of the car.
I just can't imagine sucking the oil out through the dipstick hole. What's the fun in that?
Clinton, Iowa -
Langner91 said:I change my oil the old fashioned way, I climb my fat @$$ underneath it and take the little bolt out, draining hot motor oil down my arm, ruining my t-shirt and staining my garage floor. Then, I cuss at the stuck oil filter for 10 minutes, until I finally hammer a screwdriver through the side of it and tear it off. This is followed by more cussing and installing the new oil filter which I usually leave on the other side of the garage instead of taking it under the car with me.
The best part is the one out of 10 times I fail to see that the old gasket is still attached to the oil filter sealing surface, causing the new filter to spray $36 worth of new synthetic oil all over the garage and underside of the car.
I just can't imagine sucking the oil out through the dipstick hole. What's the fun in that?
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Sometimes I’ll drain from underneath to mix things up and give the under-regions an inspection. Fortunately for me, I have a car lift. Unfortunately for me, there’s usually a sea of crapola to clear for egress to it.______________________________________________I love lamp..
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Ingress. "Egress" is when you leave.nolaegghead said:Sometimes I’ll drain from underneath to mix things up and give the under-regions an inspection. Fortunately for me, I have a car lift. Unfortunately for me, there’s usually a sea of crapola to clear for egress to it.I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.
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One thing I didn't realize was that it doesnt need constant compressed air.nolaegghead said:Awesome, how did it work?
I really love not having to collect oil in a drip pan. I have no lift. So with this thing I can just pour it into our five or six gallon jugs that we store it in before we bring it to the mechanic who has a waste oil furnace.Large, Medium, MiniMax, 36" Blackstone
Grand Rapids MI -
Personally if it’s a high value item I will pull a drain plug. If it’s a small engine, differential, gear box, or other hard to reach I use the vacuum. It also works to suck water out of fuel tanks.GrateEggspectations said:
I have to admit that I’ve been intrigued by this exchange, but I haven’t followed it that closely. For someone who does their own oil changes on vehicles, is this a recommended item? I feel like this good be a good excuse to tell my wife I have to buy more tools.kl8ton said:
Worked great! Oil was cold as cart battery was dead. Previous owner must have used an impact gun to get the oil filter on.nolaegghead said:Awesome, how did it work?
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I really like the KO2s. I was very disheartened when I heard they discontinued the KO's. BFG redeemed themselves. It looks like they'll be able to get you to the train station and back!Ozzie_Isaac said:Got some new kicks for the truck. When I pulled in on the old tires, the tire guy said "Um, sir those are dead.". Hauling some horses this weekend and didn't want to risk it on the wore out ones.
Large, Medium, MiniMax, 36" Blackstone
Grand Rapids MI -
I have KO2,s on my 4 Runner, not great in the wet but you likely don’t get much.Ozzie_Isaac said:Got some new kicks for the truck. When I pulled in on the old tires, the tire guy said "Um, sir those are dead.". Hauling some horses this weekend and didn't want to risk it on the wore out ones.
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I can relate to this also. I've never missed an old gasket still stuck to the block, but I did have one new filter that tightened down "funny"; I didn't notice the filter wasn't even touching the block. The filter hole wasn't tapped all the way thru. $36 oil and a new, new filter.Langner91 said:I change my oil the old fashioned way, I climb my fat @$$ underneath it and take the little bolt out, draining hot motor oil down my arm, ruining my t-shirt and staining my garage floor. Then, I cuss at the stuck oil filter for 10 minutes, until I finally hammer a screwdriver through the side of it and tear it off. This is followed by more cussing and installing the new oil filter which I usually leave on the other side of the garage instead of taking it under the car with me.
The best part is the one out of 10 times I fail to see that the old gasket is still attached to the oil filter sealing surface, causing the new filter to spray $36 worth of new synthetic oil all over the garage and underside of the car.
I just can't imagine sucking the oil out through the dipstick hole. What's the fun in that?
Not to piss on anyone's new tool, but I'd been told (an engineer? Popular Mechanics? Dad? Car&Driver? ) to avoid the "Jiffy Lube" type places as they sucked the oil out thru the dipstick, and that didn't remove the sediments at the bottom of the oil pan as well as pulling the drain plug. I have no idea if that's true or not, but I've always pulled the drain plug ever since based on that belief.
My BMW motorcycle is unusually frustrating, especially for a bike. It takes two different Torx driver sizes to remove the bottom bash plate, and then a third Torx bit to drop the oil plug. And then when you remove the filter, the oil stream hits the 2-point kickstand, dead-on; gah! I did figure out how to fashion a shield/funnel out of heavy aluminum foil to prevent part. The one saving grace on that bike was, no dipstick: it had a small round glass in the side of the block where you could check the oil level without tools or touching; that is nice."Hallelujah, Noel, be it Heaven or Hell,
The Christmas we get, we deserve"
-RIP Greg LakeOgden, UT, USA
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I use that on almost all my oil filters. Or one just like it, seatbelt material squeezed into 1/2 square stock.South of Columbus, Ohio.
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