Tracking Covid Spread

Legume

And I think forest fires that impacted air quality in populated areas also drove people indoors.

Lit

Gulfcoastguy said:

Lit said:

Georgia has seen a pretty big decline over the last several months. Locally our schools are all open for in person learning and very few issues. The whole weather thing doesnt seem right since our cases were high in August which is the hottest part of the year.

In the South August is air conditioning weather. Plus that is when schools start. Normally the fall is great for outdoor activities.

You can see the numbers have dropped here since school started. All the youth sports are running here i know people that have their kids in soccer and football. I take my kids to a local park to ride their motorcycles and the playgrounds are always full. Its crazy staying inside with people you know could be worse than what people are doing around here. 

YukonRon

Unfortunately, Kentucky is off the rails. Louisville leads COVID deaths over the rest of the state 5:1. The infections are around a 1000/day. We are a serious Red State, and have pretty much followed the protocols of the president and not of the medical experts. So many have surrendered to the inevitability, and have just quit trying, which has lead to a very dire and sad situation here.

fishlessman

Lit said:

Gulfcoastguy said:

Lit said:

Georgia has seen a pretty big decline over the last several months. Locally our schools are all open for in person learning and very few issues. The whole weather thing doesnt seem right since our cases were high in August which is the hottest part of the year.

In the South August is air conditioning weather. Plus that is when schools start. Normally the fall is great for outdoor activities.

You can see the numbers have dropped here since school started. All the youth sports are running here i know people that have their kids in soccer and football. I take my kids to a local park to ride their motorcycles and the playgrounds are always full. Its crazy staying inside with people you know could be worse than what people are doing around here. 

still be careful and stay safe. kids 19 and under are testing positive here now and its been the biggest age group testing positive in the last  month in town. it may be that this town is testing more aggressively with the kids. they were posting the ages but stopped, nobody wants to see a 2 year old catching this. i like this map that jic posted awhile back, it breaks down the counties, some counties are running high down your way right now

https://covidactnow.org/?s=1309318

Ozzie_Isaac

In the beginning the plan was to lower the peak and spread out the infection (opposite of 6-Sigma goal of squish and scoot).  That would enable hospitals to keep from being overwhelmed.

Goal was not to eliminate infections, because they said that was impossible.  They said eventually a very significant portion of people would get it.  Has that philosophy changed?

Yes, I wear masks, avoid large groups while indoors, limit my "friend" group.  One of my risk areas is Rodeos, but we are outside and usually well over the 6' seperation recommendation.

I cancelled a last ditch effort to travel in 2020 due to rising case counts.

caliking

fishlessman said:

how is north dakota so high.

That map defaults to "rate per 100K". Despite being less densely populated (or just less populated), more ND folks caught it relative to their population. 

Under Metric, click on "count", and it'll show CoVID spread based on absolute numbers.

fishlessman

Ozzie_Isaac said:

In the beginning the plan was to lower the peak and spread out the infection (opposite of 6-Sigma goal of squish and scoot).  That would enable hospitals to keep from being overwhelmed.

Goal was not to eliminate infections, because they said that was impossible.  They said eventually a very significant portion of people would get it.  Has that philosophy changed?

Yes, I wear masks, avoid large groups while indoors, limit my "friend" group.  One of my risk areas is Rodeos, but we are outside and usually well over the 6' seperation recommendation.

I cancelled a last ditch effort to travel in 2020 due to rising case counts.

the dakotas look to be on track to be 100 percent infected in the next several months looking at the maps

Canugghead

Legume said:

Elections are going to spike this as well.

Voting in person, the various protest and celebratory gatherings I saw on TV just made me cringe.

Agree, + rallies

fishlessman

caliking said:

fishlessman said:

how is north dakota so high.

That map defaults to "rate per 100K". Despite being less densely populated (or just less populated), more ND folks caught it relative to their population. 

Under Metric, click on "count", and it'll show CoVID spread based on absolute numbers.

but its the rate that shows the higher chance to get the thing. is it a mask thing, cold weather, the way the community works together, lack of healthcare available nearby. its not the biggest state for travel other than my dog is from there

JohnInCarolina

Ozzie_Isaac said:

In the beginning the plan was to lower the peak and spread out the infection (opposite of 6-Sigma goal of squish and scoot).  That would enable hospitals to keep from being overwhelmed.

Goal was not to eliminate infections, because they said that was impossible.  They said eventually a very significant portion of people would get it.  Has that philosophy changed?

 Flattening the curve has remained the philosophy, as far as I understand it.  Really just keep the hospitals from being overrun until we can have a vaccine deployed.

But you need to get people to buy into this philosophy for it to work.  I think pandemic fatigue is part of what we're seeing now.  

ColbyLang

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

In the beginning the plan was to lower the peak and spread out the infection (opposite of 6-Sigma goal of squish and scoot).  That would enable hospitals to keep from being overwhelmed.

Goal was not to eliminate infections, because they said that was impossible.  They said eventually a very significant portion of people would get it.  Has that philosophy changed?

 Flattening the curve has remained the philosophy, as far as I understand it.  Really just keep the hospitals from being overrun until we can have a vaccine deployed.

But you need to get people to buy into this philosophy for it to work.  I think pandemic fatigue is part of what we're seeing now.  

This x 1,000,000. Flattening the curve until there is sustainable results with a treatment. Wear a mask, be courteous to those around you. Our friend circle is very tight. Just got back from vacation where we never left the hotel grounds, groceries delivered and stayed 20’ from the closest group next to us on the beach. 

caliking

fishlessman said:

caliking said:

fishlessman said:

how is north dakota so high.

That map defaults to "rate per 100K". Despite being less densely populated (or just less populated), more ND folks caught it relative to their population. 

Under Metric, click on "count", and it'll show CoVID spread based on absolute numbers.

but its the rate that shows the higher chance to get the thing. is it a mask thing, cold weather, the way the community works together, lack of healthcare available nearby. its not the biggest state for travel other than my dog is from there

Those are all possible (likely?) factors.

But, the "rate per 100K" is somewhat of a misnomer. They're actually reporting the cases per 100K. It doesn't outright define the risk of getting infected, but states the prevalence of the disease i.e. how many are infected at a particular time. Less populated areas/states can look skewed because of the smaller denominator. 

Cornholio

Canugghead said:

Legume said:

Elections are going to spike this as well.

Voting in person, the various protest and celebratory gatherings I saw on TV just made me cringe.

Agree, + rallies

And the super important college football games.   I already don’t give a rat’s ars about football but this one just amplified how stupidly obsessed with a game some people are. 

Just in time for the holidays when they’ll be visiting their older relatives. 

JohnInCarolina

@Cornholio - yep.  Spot on.

Ozzie_Isaac

The amount of asymptomatic cases popping up worries me.  You can take all the temps and ask all the questions you want.  If you are not showing symptoms none of that will help.

EzraBrooks

Cornholio said:

Canugghead said:

Legume said:

Elections are going to spike this as well.

Voting in person, the various protest and celebratory gatherings I saw on TV just made me cringe.

Agree, + rallies

And the super important college football games.   I already don’t give a rat’s ars about football but this one just amplified how stupidly obsessed with a game some people are. 

Just in time for the holidays when they’ll be visiting their older relatives. 

Leadership matters.  The president of Notre Dame didn't care about COVID-19, how would we expect the students to?

Cornholio

EzraBrooks said:

Cornholio said:

Canugghead said:

Legume said:

Elections are going to spike this as well.

Voting in person, the various protest and celebratory gatherings I saw on TV just made me cringe.

Agree, + rallies

And the super important college football games.   I already don’t give a rat’s ars about football but this one just amplified how stupidly obsessed with a game some people are. 

Just in time for the holidays when they’ll be visiting their older relatives. 

Leadership matters.  The president of Notre Dame didn't care about COVID-19, how would we expect the students to?

Common sense comes to mind. I certainly have not and will not simply follow “leaders” without some critical thinking to make my own decisions. 

Boileregger

EzraBrooks said:

Cornholio said:

Canugghead said:

Legume said:

Elections are going to spike this as well.

Voting in person, the various protest and celebratory gatherings I saw on TV just made me cringe.

Agree, + rallies

And the super important college football games.   I already don’t give a rat’s ars about football but this one just amplified how stupidly obsessed with a game some people are. 

Just in time for the holidays when they’ll be visiting their older relatives. 

Leadership matters.  The president of Notre Dame didn't care about COVID-19, how would we expect the students to?

Agree.  Stark difference between how Mitch Daniels (Purdue president and lifelong Republican/former Indiana governor) is demonstrating mask wearing and reminding students to be careful and protect Purdue on a daily basis.

caliking

Cornholio said:

EzraBrooks said:

Cornholio said:

Canugghead said:

Legume said:

Elections are going to spike this as well.

Voting in person, the various protest and celebratory gatherings I saw on TV just made me cringe.

Agree, + rallies

And the super important college football games.   I already don’t give a rat’s ars about football but this one just amplified how stupidly obsessed with a game some people are. 

Just in time for the holidays when they’ll be visiting their older relatives. 

Leadership matters.  The president of Notre Dame didn't care about COVID-19, how would we expect the students to?

Common sense comes to mind. I certainly have not and will not simply follow “leaders” without some critical thinking to make my own decisions. 

The world most definitely needs more folks like you.

Botch

Utard's governor refused a mask mandate until this week.  And his reason?  "We have to nip this thing in the bud before ski season starts".  
 
Think about that.  Skiers from everywhere in the country/world, barreling down a mountain, then crowding shoulder-to-shoulder 8 to 20 people at a time into an enclosed gondola for the 15-minute ride to the top, panting on each other.
 
The.
Man.
Is.
Criminally.
Stupid.  

EzraBrooks

Cornholio said:

EzraBrooks said:

Cornholio said:

Canugghead said:

Legume said:

Elections are going to spike this as well.

Voting in person, the various protest and celebratory gatherings I saw on TV just made me cringe.

Agree, + rallies

And the super important college football games.   I already don’t give a rat’s ars about football but this one just amplified how stupidly obsessed with a game some people are. 

Just in time for the holidays when they’ll be visiting their older relatives. 

Leadership matters.  The president of Notre Dame didn't care about COVID-19, how would we expect the students to?

Common sense comes to mind. I certainly have not and will not simply follow “leaders” without some critical thinking to make my own decisions. 

True, but how much common sense does the average 18-20 year old have?  Leaders setting an example matters.

nolaegghead

EzraBrooks said:

Cornholio said:

EzraBrooks said:

Cornholio said:

Canugghead said:

Legume said:

Elections are going to spike this as well.

Voting in person, the various protest and celebratory gatherings I saw on TV just made me cringe.

Agree, + rallies

And the super important college football games.   I already don’t give a rat’s ars about football but this one just amplified how stupidly obsessed with a game some people are. 

Just in time for the holidays when they’ll be visiting their older relatives. 

Leadership matters.  The president of Notre Dame didn't care about COVID-19, how would we expect the students to?

Common sense comes to mind. I certainly have not and will not simply follow “leaders” without some critical thinking to make my own decisions. 

True, but how much common sense does the average 18-20 year old have?  Leaders setting an example matters.

The raging hormones of that age group can overwhelm the part of the brain that organizes logic and reason.  When I was 18 I would lose my mind if I couldn't go to "the party" where my friends were at.

Would not be surprised if there were more socks in the septic clogs during this pandemic. 

Gulfcoastguy

Yep I told someone back in April “How long do you think that you are going to keep a 16 year old boy away from his girlfriend?”.

lousubcap

Leadership at Notre Dame-give this a look: (Dateline Oct 13th)

INDIANAPOLIS -- The Rev. John Jenkins, the president of the University of Notre Dame, has ended his quarantine after testing positive for the coronavirus less than a week following his attendance at a White House event without wearing a mask.

Jenkins "is symptom-free and looks forward to resuming his normal activities,” the university announced Monday evening. He began his self-isolation period Sept. 28, two days after he attended the Rose Garden ceremony for Amy Coney Barrett, a judge and Notre Dame law professor who is President Donald Trump's nominee for U.S. Supreme Court justice.

lousubcap

And since I'm here-a bit lighter take:

Stay healthy and safe out there!

ryantt

The problem we are seeing is we are out of space.  The hospital isn’t full; however, we have no more negative pressure rooms or icu beds.

that’s what I’m seeing/ hearing from work.  I’m currently on a 2 week mandatory staycation... thankfully  not sick, just an exposure 

JRWhitee

YukonRon said:

Unfortunately, Kentucky is off the rails. Louisville leads COVID deaths over the rest of the state 5:1. The infections are around a 1000/day. We are a serious Red State, and have pretty much followed the protocols of the president and not of the medical experts. So many have surrendered to the inevitability, and have just quit trying, which has lead to a very dire and sad situation here.

I blame McConnell

Gulfcoastguy

JRWhitee said:

YukonRon said:

Unfortunately, Kentucky is off the rails. Louisville leads COVID deaths over the rest of the state 5:1. The infections are around a 1000/day. We are a serious Red State, and have pretty much followed the protocols of the president and not of the medical experts. So many have surrendered to the inevitability, and have just quit trying, which has lead to a very dire and sad situation here.

I blame McConnell

Louisville probably voted for the other guy.

lousubcap

Turns out that although the state went to Trump by a 62-38% margin, the majority of the state thinks the Democratic Governor is doing a good job with addressing covid.  Article linked here:
https://www.rcnky.com/articles/2020/09/17/covid-poll-majority-ky-still-approve-beshear-not-trump  
It has been that way since this started in March.  Despite the red state branding the Governor has definitely been more aggressive than anything from DC.  He definitely hit a nerve early in this when he was hung in effigy outside the capitol.  FWIW-

EzraBrooks

Kid's school just emailed that all students must return to maximum of 50% in person starting Monday.