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Pfizer may have an effective vaccine

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  • frazzdaddy
    frazzdaddy Posts: 2,617
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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sasse-beyond-disgusting-cuomo-thinks-161636370.html

    Please read the fifth paragraph for the original source before before disregarding it.

    I disagree with Cuomo's comments.  60 minutes interviewed the guy in charge (4-star general) of the distribution problem and it looks like he and his group are doing a good job.   There's a very limited number of doses available for the first distribution cycle and they will go to high-risk and front line workers.

    Like John said, we should keep this apolitical.
    I feel a compulsion to point out the irony of the last statement.  For months now everything has devolved into politics.  What has changed?
    What's the point?
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    Two rusty Weber kettles. 

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  • thetrim
    thetrim Posts: 11,357
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    If you want it done right, call the Army.  
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  • Gulfcoastguy
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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sasse-beyond-disgusting-cuomo-thinks-161636370.html

    Please read the fifth paragraph for the original source before before disregarding it.

    I disagree with Cuomo's comments.  60 minutes interviewed the guy in charge (4-star general) of the distribution problem and it looks like he and his group are doing a good job.   There's a very limited number of doses available for the first distribution cycle and they will go to high-risk and front line workers.

    Like John said, we should keep this apolitical.
    So now it’s apolitical? 
  • JohnInCarolina
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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sasse-beyond-disgusting-cuomo-thinks-161636370.html

    Please read the fifth paragraph for the original source before before disregarding it.

    I disagree with Cuomo's comments.  60 minutes interviewed the guy in charge (4-star general) of the distribution problem and it looks like he and his group are doing a good job.   There's a very limited number of doses available for the first distribution cycle and they will go to high-risk and front line workers.

    Like John said, we should keep this apolitical.
    I feel a compulsion to point out the irony of the last statement.  For months now everything has devolved into politics.  What has changed?
    It has, but this is a choice, right?  If others here want to make the choice to keep trying to inject politics into this, they can.  I'm not going to stop them from doing that.  I can't. 

    I'm just saying that I won't be doing that, because I don't think it's helpful when it comes to discussing a vaccine that could have a pretty tremendous impact on public health, the economy, and everything else over the course of the upcoming year.  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • Eoin
    Eoin Posts: 4,304
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    thetrim said:
    If you want it done right, call the Army.  
    Not the Navy?
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 32,776
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    can we keep it apolitical AND call it the trump vaccine =)
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • frazzdaddy
    frazzdaddy Posts: 2,617
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    can we keep it apolitical AND call it the trump vaccine =)
    If it works, call it anything you want my friend.
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    Two rusty Weber kettles. 

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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 32,407
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    I have volunteered for two Covid vaccine trails.  If the trial vaccine or placebo comes with a politician's name I won't play.  
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • SciAggie
    SciAggie Posts: 6,481
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    lousubcap said:
    I have volunteered for two Covid vaccine trails.  If the trial vaccine or placebo comes with a politician's name I won't play.  
    @lousubcap You are my hero. I like the way you said that. I was trying to find a way to also say that a discussion of the vaccine itself is not political. One can speculate on motives if they want, but it should be encouraging news to us all that progress is being made with a vaccine.
    I would very much like to return to something resembling a normal life.
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  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 14,627
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    can we keep it apolitical AND call it the trump vaccine =)
    What we need is most everyone to get the vaccine.  If we need blue and red syringes with whatever labeling to get there, IDGAF.  Git ‘er done.
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 32,776
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    Legume said:
    can we keep it apolitical AND call it the trump vaccine =)
    What we need is most everyone to get the vaccine.  If we need blue and red syringes with whatever labeling to get there, IDGAF.  Git ‘er done.

    thats a problem, getting the left to take the vaccine that trump pushes and the right to take a vaccine for a plannedemic. this country really is messed up. hopefully they can put it in the drinking water when no one is looking
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,102
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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sasse-beyond-disgusting-cuomo-thinks-161636370.html

    Please read the fifth paragraph for the original source before before disregarding it.

    I disagree with Cuomo's comments.  60 minutes interviewed the guy in charge (4-star general) of the distribution problem and it looks like he and his group are doing a good job.   There's a very limited number of doses available for the first distribution cycle and they will go to high-risk and front line workers.

    Like John said, we should keep this apolitical.
    So now it’s apolitical? 

    (that whooshing sound...)
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  • JohnInCarolina
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    Legume said:
    can we keep it apolitical AND call it the trump vaccine =)
    What we need is most everyone to get the vaccine.  If we need blue and red syringes with whatever labeling to get there, IDGAF.  Git ‘er done.

    thats a problem, getting the left to take the vaccine that trump pushes and the right to take a vaccine for a plannedemic. this country really is messed up. hopefully they can put it in the drinking water when no one is looking
    Unfortunately my sense is that the trajectory of this pandemic inside the next few months is going to make it clear to everyone that getting vaccinated for this really isn't a choice.  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • frazzdaddy
    frazzdaddy Posts: 2,617
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    Legume said:
    can we keep it apolitical AND call it the trump vaccine =)
    What we need is most everyone to get the vaccine.  If we need blue and red syringes with whatever labeling to get there, IDGAF.  Git ‘er done.

    thats a problem, getting the left to take the vaccine that trump pushes and the right to take a vaccine for a plannedemic. this country really is messed up. hopefully they can put it in the drinking water when no one is looking
    Unfortunately my sense is that the trajectory of this pandemic inside the next few months is going to make it clear to everyone that getting vaccinated for this really isn't a choice.  
    Well said, I fear the next two months are going to make politics the last thing on everyone's mind.
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    Two rusty Weber kettles. 

    Two Rivers Farm
    Moncure N.C.
  • caliking
    caliking Posts: 18,731
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    HeavyG said:
    I read that one of the problems with this vaccine is that it needs to be kept extremely cold at around -100°F.
    Will be interesting to see how long a shot lasts - is this going to be an annual thing or can one get a few years from a shot. Seems some reports have indicated that antibodies in people disappear after just a few months so more than one shot/year??
    Guess we'll learn more soon.
    Also - will the chips they inject in us set off the  security anti-shoplifting alarms at stores???
    Pfizer spent millions figuring out the logistics of distribution. NPR did a piece about it recently. Found this on the Googlz :
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/pfizer-sets-up-its-biggest-ever-vaccination-distribution-campaign-11603272614

    Not sure how the last mile will be handled. 

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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 32,776
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    Legume said:
    can we keep it apolitical AND call it the trump vaccine =)
    What we need is most everyone to get the vaccine.  If we need blue and red syringes with whatever labeling to get there, IDGAF.  Git ‘er done.

    thats a problem, getting the left to take the vaccine that trump pushes and the right to take a vaccine for a plannedemic. this country really is messed up. hopefully they can put it in the drinking water when no one is looking
    Unfortunately my sense is that the trajectory of this pandemic inside the next few months is going to make it clear to everyone that getting vaccinated for this really isn't a choice.  

    some will need to be held down while they get stuck with the syringe, they will never believe.  hopefully enough do though, hopefully there is a percentage that the herd thing can work
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 19,128
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    Legume said:
    can we keep it apolitical AND call it the trump vaccine =)
    What we need is most everyone to get the vaccine.  If we need blue and red syringes with whatever labeling to get there, IDGAF.  Git ‘er done.

    thats a problem, getting the left to take the vaccine that trump pushes and the right to take a vaccine for a plannedemic. this country really is messed up. hopefully they can put it in the drinking water when no one is looking
    Unfortunately my sense is that the trajectory of this pandemic inside the next few months is going to make it clear to everyone that getting vaccinated for this really isn't a choice.  
    Well said, I fear the next two months are going to make politics the last thing on everyone's mind.
    I hope that is not the case, not the politics part, but the part where **** gets really really bad.  I get flu vaccines and will get a CIVID vaccine when available.  I really like not dying and/or not spreading disease to loved ones and pretty much everyone else I may be in contact with.
    They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests. - George Carlin
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,102
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    Legume said:
    can we keep it apolitical AND call it the trump vaccine =)
    What we need is most everyone to get the vaccine.  If we need blue and red syringes with whatever labeling to get there, IDGAF.  Git ‘er done.

    thats a problem, getting the left to take the vaccine that trump pushes and the right to take a vaccine for a plannedemic. this country really is messed up. hopefully they can put it in the drinking water when no one is looking
    Unfortunately my sense is that the trajectory of this pandemic inside the next few months is going to make it clear to everyone that getting vaccinated for this really isn't a choice.  

    some will need to be held down while they get stuck with the syringe, they will never believe.  hopefully enough do though, hopefully there is a percentage that the herd thing can work

    That won't literally happen because it it illegal (except for minors), but the anti-vaxers can screw it up for everyone if we don't get something like 70% or more of the population immunized.
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 32,776
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    Legume said:
    can we keep it apolitical AND call it the trump vaccine =)
    What we need is most everyone to get the vaccine.  If we need blue and red syringes with whatever labeling to get there, IDGAF.  Git ‘er done.

    thats a problem, getting the left to take the vaccine that trump pushes and the right to take a vaccine for a plannedemic. this country really is messed up. hopefully they can put it in the drinking water when no one is looking
    Unfortunately my sense is that the trajectory of this pandemic inside the next few months is going to make it clear to everyone that getting vaccinated for this really isn't a choice.  

    as for the trajectory, it looks to be doubling every week around here. not sure if thats sustainable at all
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • JohnInCarolina
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    Legume said:
    can we keep it apolitical AND call it the trump vaccine =)
    What we need is most everyone to get the vaccine.  If we need blue and red syringes with whatever labeling to get there, IDGAF.  Git ‘er done.

    thats a problem, getting the left to take the vaccine that trump pushes and the right to take a vaccine for a plannedemic. this country really is messed up. hopefully they can put it in the drinking water when no one is looking
    Unfortunately my sense is that the trajectory of this pandemic inside the next few months is going to make it clear to everyone that getting vaccinated for this really isn't a choice.  

    as for the trajectory, it looks to be doubling every week around here. not sure if thats sustainable at all
    That's exponential growth.  It isn't sustainable in the sense that eventually the hospitals are completely overrun.  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 32,776
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    Legume said:
    can we keep it apolitical AND call it the trump vaccine =)
    What we need is most everyone to get the vaccine.  If we need blue and red syringes with whatever labeling to get there, IDGAF.  Git ‘er done.

    thats a problem, getting the left to take the vaccine that trump pushes and the right to take a vaccine for a plannedemic. this country really is messed up. hopefully they can put it in the drinking water when no one is looking
    Unfortunately my sense is that the trajectory of this pandemic inside the next few months is going to make it clear to everyone that getting vaccinated for this really isn't a choice.  

    some will need to be held down while they get stuck with the syringe, they will never believe.  hopefully enough do though, hopefully there is a percentage that the herd thing can work

    That won't literally happen because it it illegal (except for minors), but the anti-vaxers can screw it up for everyone if we don't get something like 70% or more of the population immunized.

    i would think 70 percent will easily come around, but legality with this be damned =)
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 19,128
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    To bad it wasn't available sooner.  Could have given vaccine shot at the polls.  Vote and get the vaccine at the same time.
    They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests. - George Carlin
  • Gulfcoastguy
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    To bad it wasn't available sooner.  Could have given vaccine shot at the polls.  Vote and get the vaccine at the same time.
    Of course you would have to vote in person and show an ID for that to work.
  • johnmitchell
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    To bad it wasn't available sooner.  Could have given vaccine shot at the polls.  Vote and get the vaccine at the same time.
    Of course you would have to vote in person and show an ID for that to work.
    😂😂😂😉
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  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
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    To bad it wasn't available sooner.  Could have given vaccine shot at the polls.  Vote and get the vaccine at the same time.
    Nope.

    Two Pfizer shots required, one week apart.
    Total one month from first shot til fully effective.
    Per Gupta on cnn.

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  • TEXASBGE2018
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    All i know is that im pissed I liquidated my Pfizer stock back in 2019


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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 32,776
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    Legume said:
    can we keep it apolitical AND call it the trump vaccine =)
    What we need is most everyone to get the vaccine.  If we need blue and red syringes with whatever labeling to get there, IDGAF.  Git ‘er done.

    thats a problem, getting the left to take the vaccine that trump pushes and the right to take a vaccine for a plannedemic. this country really is messed up. hopefully they can put it in the drinking water when no one is looking
    Unfortunately my sense is that the trajectory of this pandemic inside the next few months is going to make it clear to everyone that getting vaccinated for this really isn't a choice.  

    as for the trajectory, it looks to be doubling every week around here. not sure if thats sustainable at all
    That's exponential growth.  It isn't sustainable in the sense that eventually the hospitals are completely overrun.  

    watch the northern states in the next few weeks, that will tell the tale. we went from 6 new cases per 100k a few weeks ago to 32 new cases now in my little county. doesnt sound like much now but you know the math of doubling, tripling etc as the weeks move forward
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 14,627
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    Legume said:
    can we keep it apolitical AND call it the trump vaccine =)
    What we need is most everyone to get the vaccine.  If we need blue and red syringes with whatever labeling to get there, IDGAF.  Git ‘er done.

    thats a problem, getting the left to take the vaccine that trump pushes and the right to take a vaccine for a plannedemic. this country really is messed up. hopefully they can put it in the drinking water when no one is looking
    Unfortunately my sense is that the trajectory of this pandemic inside the next few months is going to make it clear to everyone that getting vaccinated for this really isn't a choice.  

    as for the trajectory, it looks to be doubling every week around here. not sure if thats sustainable at all
    That's exponential growth.  It isn't sustainable in the sense that eventually the hospitals are completely overrun.  

    watch the northern states in the next few weeks, that will tell the tale. we went from 6 new cases per 100k a few weeks ago to 32 new cases now in my little county. doesnt sound like much now but you know the math of doubling, tripling etc as the weeks move forward
    Agree.  Was there much absentee or mail in voting, or mostly in person?

    The celebrations in the streets on Saturday just made me cringe.
  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 14,627
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    All i know is that im pissed I liquidated my Pfizer stock back in 2019
    Ah, this post is about you.