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This.... looks real!
EDIT: Ewps, already posted elsewhere.
___________"When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set."
- Lin Yutang
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Turns out that photo is not what is was portrayed as in the media. Appears that Reuters screwed up.JohnInCarolina said:From Wisconsin:
Regardless, I'm sure we'll find out in the next couple of weeks the real scope of the problem across the country and if there really are any "geographic anomalies".
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@HeavyG - thanks. Always good to get that sort of thing corrected."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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HeavyG said:
Turns out that photo is not what is was portrayed as in the media. Appears that Reuters screwed up.JohnInCarolina said:From Wisconsin:
Regardless, I'm sure we'll find out in the next couple of weeks the real scope of the problem across the country and if there really are any "geographic anomalies".
the only box in my city for the last 3 decades sits in front of the post office, you have to drive to the post office to use it. they removed all the street boxes years and years ago. in pennsylvania you mail in your request for mail in ballot by oct 27, they process it and mail your ballot back, you fill it in and mail it back by nov 3, no geographic anomaly there
smooth sailing there, i used to have a pencil in the mail box to write "delivered to wrong address" on mail on a daily basis, mail man stole my pencil. last house on the street gets everyones mail
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Just reading up on Modern Monetary Theory. Anyone have any thoughts to the validity of the concept?
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how about non-whites without college degrees voting for Biden.....your comparison is totally garbage.JohnInCarolina said:
or how about anyone with a college degree and gainfully employed???
Or how about just getting over the fact that not everyone agrees with you?XL BGE and Kamado Joe Jr. -
Simma down Moby. You should totally be a pollster, then you can post the results of your own polls and dispute some of these fly by night pollsters like Pew.speed51133 said:
how about non-whites without college degrees voting for Biden.....your comparison is totally garbage.JohnInCarolina said:
or how about anyone with a college degree and gainfully employed???
Or how about just getting over the fact that not everyone agrees with you?
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fiber_induced_deuce said:
Simma down Moby. You should totally be a pollster, then you can post the results of your own polls and dispute some of these fly by night pollsters like Pew..speed51133 said:
how about non-whites without college degrees voting for Biden.....your comparison is totally garbage.JohnInCarolina said:
or how about anyone with a college degree and gainfully employed???
Or how about just getting over the fact that not everyone agrees with you?
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community [...] but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots."
-Umberto Eco
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I think you’re very confused. It’s not my comparison. What’s showing up there is simply a summary of the data from a recent poll.speed51133 said:
how about non-whites without college degrees voting for Biden.....your comparison is totally garbage.JohnInCarolina said:
or how about anyone with a college degree and gainfully employed???
Or how about just getting over the fact that not everyone agrees with you?
There appears to be a pretty large demarcation between the two groups. People can draw their own conclusions based on that."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
Because Pew was so reliable prior to trump winning...fiber_induced_deuce said:
Simma down Moby. You should totally be a pollster, then you can post the results of your own polls and dispute some of these fly by night pollsters like Pew.speed51133 said:
how about non-whites without college degrees voting for Biden.....your comparison is totally garbage.JohnInCarolina said:
or how about anyone with a college degree and gainfully employed???
Or how about just getting over the fact that not everyone agrees with you?
No idea what PEW presented in their findings and if it included all sorts of other data set results, but the presentation of those two data sets is incredibly flawed and trying to make a conclusion based on the flawed comparison. It is trying to say that only idiots vote for Trump.
I also extensively studied statistics and almost have a minor in math and degree in engineering as well as a JD. I can understand how polls are conducted and presented to show selective results.XL BGE and Kamado Joe Jr. -
What do you think it means for a polling organization to be reliable, exactly?speed51133 said:
Because Pew was so reliable prior to trump winning...fiber_induced_deuce said:
Simma down Moby. You should totally be a pollster, then you can post the results of your own polls and dispute some of these fly by night pollsters like Pew.speed51133 said:
how about non-whites without college degrees voting for Biden.....your comparison is totally garbage.JohnInCarolina said:
or how about anyone with a college degree and gainfully employed???
Or how about just getting over the fact that not everyone agrees with you?"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
Hey, we can request a no-excuse mail-in ballot online up to 50 days out, and even before if they let you. Then track it online. Unlike tax season, there's no benefit to waiting.fishlessman said:HeavyG said:
Turns out that photo is not what is was portrayed as in the media. Appears that Reuters screwed up.JohnInCarolina said:From Wisconsin:
Regardless, I'm sure we'll find out in the next couple of weeks the real scope of the problem across the country and if there really are any "geographic anomalies".
the only box in my city for the last 3 decades sits in front of the post office, you have to drive to the post office to use it. they removed all the street boxes years and years ago. in pennsylvania you mail in your request for mail in ballot by oct 27, they process it and mail your ballot back, you fill it in and mail it back by nov 3, no geographic anomaly there smooth sailing there, i used to have a pencil in the mail box to write "delivered to wrong address" on mail on a daily basis, mail man stole my pencil. last house on the street gets everyones mail
Bob
New Cumberland, PA
XL with the usual accessories -
I had a certified letter delivered to my office last year that was mailed 2 years prior.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community [...] but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots."
-Umberto Eco
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Peachtree Corners, GA -
Kayak said:
Hey, we can request a no-excuse mail-in ballot online up to 50 days out, and even before if they let you. Then track it online. Unlike tax season, there's no benefit to waiting.fishlessman said:HeavyG said:
Turns out that photo is not what is was portrayed as in the media. Appears that Reuters screwed up.JohnInCarolina said:From Wisconsin:
Regardless, I'm sure we'll find out in the next couple of weeks the real scope of the problem across the country and if there really are any "geographic anomalies".
the only box in my city for the last 3 decades sits in front of the post office, you have to drive to the post office to use it. they removed all the street boxes years and years ago. in pennsylvania you mail in your request for mail in ballot by oct 27, they process it and mail your ballot back, you fill it in and mail it back by nov 3, no geographic anomaly there smooth sailing there, i used to have a pencil in the mail box to write "delivered to wrong address" on mail on a daily basis, mail man stole my pencil. last house on the street gets everyones mailKayak said:
Hey, we can request a no-excuse mail-in ballot online up to 50 days out, and even before if they let you. Then track it online. Unlike tax season, there's no benefit to waiting.fishlessman said:HeavyG said:
Turns out that photo is not what is was portrayed as in the media. Appears that Reuters screwed up.JohnInCarolina said:From Wisconsin:
Regardless, I'm sure we'll find out in the next couple of weeks the real scope of the problem across the country and if there really are any "geographic anomalies".
the only box in my city for the last 3 decades sits in front of the post office, you have to drive to the post office to use it. they removed all the street boxes years and years ago. in pennsylvania you mail in your request for mail in ballot by oct 27, they process it and mail your ballot back, you fill it in and mail it back by nov 3, no geographic anomaly there smooth sailing there, i used to have a pencil in the mail box to write "delivered to wrong address" on mail on a daily basis, mail man stole my pencil. last house on the street gets everyones mail
in mass the application for the ballot needs to be in by august 26, oct 27 is really pushing it for us that procrastinate
fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
heres my next voting ballot, looks like "no nominations" is running for everything
STATE PRIMARY
REPUBLICAN
William Francis Galvin METHUEN Secretary of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts Ward: 0 Precinct: 11 TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 1, 2020
Please note: this is NOT a valid official ballot. SENATOR IN CONGRESS
Vote for not more than 1KEVIN J. O'CONNOR 55 Glen St., Dover REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS
THIRD DISTRICTVote for not more than 1COUNCILLOR
FIFTH DISTRICTVote for not more than 1SENATOR IN GENERAL COURT
FIRST ESSEX DISTRICTVote for not more than 1REPRESENTATIVE IN GENERAL COURT
FIFTEENTH ESSEX DISTRICTVote for not more than 1REGISTER OF PROBATE
ESSEX COUNTYVote for not more than 1
fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
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Fish, I note that the seventh lines states:
Please note: this is NOT a valid official ballot.
What exactly IS that, that you posted?
___________"When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set."
- Lin Yutang
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Botch said:Fish, I note that the seventh lines states:
Please note: this is NOT a valid official ballot.
What exactly IS that, that you posted?
the official ballot is the one they hand to you on voting day that you fill in the dots for the reader. but thats what will be on it, its sad. the dem version ballot has just the one person running per line to vote for, almost as sad, maybe just as sad. its like its all been fixed ahead of time (my conspiracy theory) if i dont go vote theres a chance my name wont be on the presidential sign in book, its been removed a few times over the years for unexplainable reasons
fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
You might be the first person I’ve seen to cite *almost having a minor* in something as a testament of their knowledge.speed51133 said:
Because Pew was so reliable prior to trump winning...fiber_induced_deuce said:
Simma down Moby. You should totally be a pollster, then you can post the results of your own polls and dispute some of these fly by night pollsters like Pew.speed51133 said:
how about non-whites without college degrees voting for Biden.....your comparison is totally garbage.JohnInCarolina said:
or how about anyone with a college degree and gainfully employed???
Or how about just getting over the fact that not everyone agrees with you?
No idea what PEW presented in their findings and if it included all sorts of other data set results, but the presentation of those two data sets is incredibly flawed and trying to make a conclusion based on the flawed comparison. It is trying to say that only idiots vote for Trump.
I also extensively studied statistics and almost have a minor in math and degree in engineering as well as a JD. I can understand how polls are conducted and presented to show selective results.
I’m just trying to reconcile your statistical prowess with your contention that Pew isn’t reliable based on the 2016 election.
Statistics... how do they work?"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
I almost nailed Carol Hawkins in high school.Philly - Kansas City - Houston - Cincinnati - Dallas - Houston - Memphis - Austin - Chicago - Austin
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IDK, I mean a year of statistics, 4 years of science school calculus (which is substantially harder than the calc BA students take), 4 years of calculus based physics, 3 years of calculus based chemistry, 2 years of statics and dynamics, 1 year of thermodynamics, 2 years of computer programming, 2 years of optimization, and god knows what else I am missing, I think that qualifies me as somewhat of knowledgeable in math. It may be only "almost" a minor in math, but it is a BS in engineering.JohnInCarolina said:
You might be the first person I’ve seen to cite *almost having a minor* in something as a testament of their knowledge.speed51133 said:
Because Pew was so reliable prior to trump winning...fiber_induced_deuce said:
Simma down Moby. You should totally be a pollster, then you can post the results of your own polls and dispute some of these fly by night pollsters like Pew.speed51133 said:
how about non-whites without college degrees voting for Biden.....your comparison is totally garbage.JohnInCarolina said:
or how about anyone with a college degree and gainfully employed???
Or how about just getting over the fact that not everyone agrees with you?
No idea what PEW presented in their findings and if it included all sorts of other data set results, but the presentation of those two data sets is incredibly flawed and trying to make a conclusion based on the flawed comparison. It is trying to say that only idiots vote for Trump.
I also extensively studied statistics and almost have a minor in math and degree in engineering as well as a JD. I can understand how polls are conducted and presented to show selective results.
I’m just trying to reconcile your statistical prowess with your contention that Pew isn’t reliable based on the 2016 election.
Statistics... how do they work?
My point is that I was essentially told that my knowledge on statistics, which is ALL math and how to compare data sets (which is what your do in essentially every engineering class) DOES in fact qualify me to at least opine of the relevancy of two data sets used to make a conclusion.
ALSO, with respect to PEW, they, along with EVERYONE else, was totally wrong, not even a little wrong, but totally out of the park wrong with all of their predictions and analysis of the data sets used prior to trump winning in 2016.
If you see some flaw in my reasoning, by all means, please state it. But the adhominem attacks... please just shut it....
XL BGE and Kamado Joe Jr. -
I thought this was a BBQ and other sundry flame cooked arts forum?
I like it more now.Maybe your purpose in life is only to serve as an example for others? - LPL
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I would believe you have a degree in blowing smoke up your own azz, but that's pretty much all the credit I would give you based on the quality of your knowledge you've exhibited here.speed51133 said:
IDK, I mean a year of statistics, 4 years of calculus, 4 years of calculus based physics, 3 years of calculus based chemistry, 2 years of statics and dynamics, 1 year of thermodynamics, 2 years of computer programming, 2 years of optimization, and god knows what else I am missing, I think that qualifies me as somewhat of knowledgeable in math. It may be only "almost" a minor in math, but it is a BS in engineering.JohnInCarolina said:
You might be the first person I’ve seen to cite *almost having a minor* in something as a testament of their knowledge.speed51133 said:
Because Pew was so reliable prior to trump winning...fiber_induced_deuce said:
Simma down Moby. You should totally be a pollster, then you can post the results of your own polls and dispute some of these fly by night pollsters like Pew.speed51133 said:
how about non-whites without college degrees voting for Biden.....your comparison is totally garbage.JohnInCarolina said:
or how about anyone with a college degree and gainfully employed???
Or how about just getting over the fact that not everyone agrees with you?
No idea what PEW presented in their findings and if it included all sorts of other data set results, but the presentation of those two data sets is incredibly flawed and trying to make a conclusion based on the flawed comparison. It is trying to say that only idiots vote for Trump.
I also extensively studied statistics and almost have a minor in math and degree in engineering as well as a JD. I can understand how polls are conducted and presented to show selective results.
I’m just trying to reconcile your statistical prowess with your contention that Pew isn’t reliable based on the 2016 election.
Statistics... how do they work?
My point is that I was essentially told that my knowledge on statistics, which is ALL math and how to compare data sets (which is what your do in essentially every engineering class) DOES in fact qualify me to at least opine of the relevancy of two data sets used to make a conclusion.
ALSO, with respect to PEW, they, along with EVERYONE else, was totally wrong, not even a little wrong, but totally out of the park wrong with all of their predictions and analysis of the data sets used prior to trump winning in 2016.
If you see some flaw in my reasoning, by all means, please state it. But the adhominem attacks... please just shut it....
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google 538
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Also, maybe post your college transcripts and birth certificate.
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I’m just curious, but what is your engineering degree and where is it from?speed51133 said:
IDK, I mean a year of statistics, 4 years of science school calculus (which is substantially harder than the calc BA students take), 4 years of calculus based physics, 3 years of calculus based chemistry, 2 years of statics and dynamics, 1 year of thermodynamics, 2 years of computer programming, 2 years of optimization, and god knows what else I am missing, I think that qualifies me as somewhat of knowledgeable in math. It may be only "almost" a minor in math, but it is a BS in engineering.JohnInCarolina said:
You might be the first person I’ve seen to cite *almost having a minor* in something as a testament of their knowledge.speed51133 said:
Because Pew was so reliable prior to trump winning...fiber_induced_deuce said:
Simma down Moby. You should totally be a pollster, then you can post the results of your own polls and dispute some of these fly by night pollsters like Pew.speed51133 said:
how about non-whites without college degrees voting for Biden.....your comparison is totally garbage.JohnInCarolina said:
or how about anyone with a college degree and gainfully employed???
Or how about just getting over the fact that not everyone agrees with you?
No idea what PEW presented in their findings and if it included all sorts of other data set results, but the presentation of those two data sets is incredibly flawed and trying to make a conclusion based on the flawed comparison. It is trying to say that only idiots vote for Trump.
I also extensively studied statistics and almost have a minor in math and degree in engineering as well as a JD. I can understand how polls are conducted and presented to show selective results.
I’m just trying to reconcile your statistical prowess with your contention that Pew isn’t reliable based on the 2016 election.
Statistics... how do they work?
My point is that I was essentially told that my knowledge on statistics, which is ALL math and how to compare data sets (which is what your do in essentially every engineering class) DOES in fact qualify me to at least opine of the relevancy of two data sets used to make a conclusion.
ALSO, with respect to PEW, they, along with EVERYONE else, was totally wrong, not even a little wrong, but totally out of the park wrong with all of their predictions and analysis of the data sets used prior to trump winning in 2016.
If you see some flaw in my reasoning, by all means, please state it. But the adhominem attacks... please just shut it....
As to the substance of your point, Pew’s last national poll in 2016 had Clinton up 46 to 40 over Trump. The popular vote ended up being 48 to 46, so... yeah. Way off, obviously. Like not even in the same ballpark, just like you said...
But then I am only a professor of engineering with a secondary appointment in mathematics, so I’ll defer to your expertise here."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
I’m just curious, but what is your engineering degree and where is it from? Please elaborate on the correlation to the argument.JohnInCarolina said:
I’m just curious, but what is your engineering degree and where is it from?speed51133 said:
IDK, I mean a year of statistics, 4 years of science school calculus (which is substantially harder than the calc BA students take), 4 years of calculus based physics, 3 years of calculus based chemistry, 2 years of statics and dynamics, 1 year of thermodynamics, 2 years of computer programming, 2 years of optimization, and god knows what else I am missing, I think that qualifies me as somewhat of knowledgeable in math. It may be only "almost" a minor in math, but it is a BS in engineering.JohnInCarolina said:
You might be the first person I’ve seen to cite *almost having a minor* in something as a testament of their knowledge.speed51133 said:
Because Pew was so reliable prior to trump winning...fiber_induced_deuce said:
Simma down Moby. You should totally be a pollster, then you can post the results of your own polls and dispute some of these fly by night pollsters like Pew.speed51133 said:
how about non-whites without college degrees voting for Biden.....your comparison is totally garbage.JohnInCarolina said:
or how about anyone with a college degree and gainfully employed???
Or how about just getting over the fact that not everyone agrees with you?
No idea what PEW presented in their findings and if it included all sorts of other data set results, but the presentation of those two data sets is incredibly flawed and trying to make a conclusion based on the flawed comparison. It is trying to say that only idiots vote for Trump.
I also extensively studied statistics and almost have a minor in math and degree in engineering as well as a JD. I can understand how polls are conducted and presented to show selective results.
I’m just trying to reconcile your statistical prowess with your contention that Pew isn’t reliable based on the 2016 election.
Statistics... how do they work?
My point is that I was essentially told that my knowledge on statistics, which is ALL math and how to compare data sets (which is what your do in essentially every engineering class) DOES in fact qualify me to at least opine of the relevancy of two data sets used to make a conclusion.
ALSO, with respect to PEW, they, along with EVERYONE else, was totally wrong, not even a little wrong, but totally out of the park wrong with all of their predictions and analysis of the data sets used prior to trump winning in 2016.
If you see some flaw in my reasoning, by all means, please state it. But the adhominem attacks... please just shut it....
As to the substance of your point, Pew’s last national poll in 2016 had Clinton up 46 to 40 over Trump. The popular vote ended up being 48 to 46, so... yeah. Way off, obviously. Like not even in the same ballpark, just like you said...
But then I am only a professor of engineering with a secondary appointment in mathematics, so I’ll defer to your expertise here.
Also, https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/02/27/research-confirms-professors-lean-left-questions-assumptions-about-what-means
Looks like your profession is somewhat indicative of political bias. What a shocker...
AND, I am not here to blow smoke up my, or anyone else's ass. I am here to point out that you guys are consistently making the point that anyone who disagrees with your political stance is not only wrong, but an absolute idiot. I am also trying to use logic and reasoning, which prompts you guys to attack my intellect, education, etc. Get over yourselves. You are not the authority on what is wrong and right. You have made your point. WE ALL know your stance. You do not need to consistently remind us. I love how it is cool and dandy for liberals on the forum to always chime in here and elsewhere how stupid conservatives are.....give it a rest already.XL BGE and Kamado Joe Jr. -
I have a BS in Mechanical Engineering and Materials Science from the University of New Hampshire. I have an MS and PhD in Theoretical and Applied Mechanics from Northwestern.speed51133 said:
I’m just curious, but what is your engineering degree and where is it from?JohnInCarolina said:
I’m just curious, but what is your engineering degree and where is it from?speed51133 said:
IDK, I mean a year of statistics, 4 years of science school calculus (which is substantially harder than the calc BA students take), 4 years of calculus based physics, 3 years of calculus based chemistry, 2 years of statics and dynamics, 1 year of thermodynamics, 2 years of computer programming, 2 years of optimization, and god knows what else I am missing, I think that qualifies me as somewhat of knowledgeable in math. It may be only "almost" a minor in math, but it is a BS in engineering.JohnInCarolina said:
You might be the first person I’ve seen to cite *almost having a minor* in something as a testament of their knowledge.speed51133 said:
Because Pew was so reliable prior to trump winning...fiber_induced_deuce said:
Simma down Moby. You should totally be a pollster, then you can post the results of your own polls and dispute some of these fly by night pollsters like Pew.speed51133 said:
how about non-whites without college degrees voting for Biden.....your comparison is totally garbage.JohnInCarolina said:
or how about anyone with a college degree and gainfully employed???
Or how about just getting over the fact that not everyone agrees with you?
No idea what PEW presented in their findings and if it included all sorts of other data set results, but the presentation of those two data sets is incredibly flawed and trying to make a conclusion based on the flawed comparison. It is trying to say that only idiots vote for Trump.
I also extensively studied statistics and almost have a minor in math and degree in engineering as well as a JD. I can understand how polls are conducted and presented to show selective results.
I’m just trying to reconcile your statistical prowess with your contention that Pew isn’t reliable based on the 2016 election.
Statistics... how do they work?
My point is that I was essentially told that my knowledge on statistics, which is ALL math and how to compare data sets (which is what your do in essentially every engineering class) DOES in fact qualify me to at least opine of the relevancy of two data sets used to make a conclusion.
ALSO, with respect to PEW, they, along with EVERYONE else, was totally wrong, not even a little wrong, but totally out of the park wrong with all of their predictions and analysis of the data sets used prior to trump winning in 2016.
If you see some flaw in my reasoning, by all means, please state it. But the adhominem attacks... please just shut it....
As to the substance of your point, Pew’s last national poll in 2016 had Clinton up 46 to 40 over Trump. The popular vote ended up being 48 to 46, so... yeah. Way off, obviously. Like not even in the same ballpark, just like you said...
But then I am only a professor of engineering with a secondary appointment in mathematics, so I’ll defer to your expertise here.
I have over 14 thousand citations to my research works and an h-index of 38. My Google scholar page is here:
https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&user=XIihf9EAAAAJ&view_op=list_works&sortby=pubdate
Your turn.
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
speed51133 said:
I’m just curious, but what is your engineering degree and where is it from? Please elaborate on the correlation to the argument.JohnInCarolina said:
I’m just curious, but what is your engineering degree and where is it from?speed51133 said:
IDK, I mean a year of statistics, 4 years of science school calculus (which is substantially harder than the calc BA students take), 4 years of calculus based physics, 3 years of calculus based chemistry, 2 years of statics and dynamics, 1 year of thermodynamics, 2 years of computer programming, 2 years of optimization, and god knows what else I am missing, I think that qualifies me as somewhat of knowledgeable in math. It may be only "almost" a minor in math, but it is a BS in engineering.JohnInCarolina said:
You might be the first person I’ve seen to cite *almost having a minor* in something as a testament of their knowledge.speed51133 said:
Because Pew was so reliable prior to trump winning...fiber_induced_deuce said:
Simma down Moby. You should totally be a pollster, then you can post the results of your own polls and dispute some of these fly by night pollsters like Pew.speed51133 said:
how about non-whites without college degrees voting for Biden.....your comparison is totally garbage.JohnInCarolina said:
or how about anyone with a college degree and gainfully employed???
Or how about just getting over the fact that not everyone agrees with you?
No idea what PEW presented in their findings and if it included all sorts of other data set results, but the presentation of those two data sets is incredibly flawed and trying to make a conclusion based on the flawed comparison. It is trying to say that only idiots vote for Trump.
I also extensively studied statistics and almost have a minor in math and degree in engineering as well as a JD. I can understand how polls are conducted and presented to show selective results.
I’m just trying to reconcile your statistical prowess with your contention that Pew isn’t reliable based on the 2016 election.
Statistics... how do they work?
My point is that I was essentially told that my knowledge on statistics, which is ALL math and how to compare data sets (which is what your do in essentially every engineering class) DOES in fact qualify me to at least opine of the relevancy of two data sets used to make a conclusion.
ALSO, with respect to PEW, they, along with EVERYONE else, was totally wrong, not even a little wrong, but totally out of the park wrong with all of their predictions and analysis of the data sets used prior to trump winning in 2016.
If you see some flaw in my reasoning, by all means, please state it. But the adhominem attacks... please just shut it....
As to the substance of your point, Pew’s last national poll in 2016 had Clinton up 46 to 40 over Trump. The popular vote ended up being 48 to 46, so... yeah. Way off, obviously. Like not even in the same ballpark, just like you said...
But then I am only a professor of engineering with a secondary appointment in mathematics, so I’ll defer to your expertise here.
Also, https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/02/27/research-confirms-professors-lean-left-questions-assumptions-about-what-means
Looks like your profession is somewhat indicative of political bias. What a shocker...
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