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Cold Smoking Raw Salmon

being a gadget freak and after seeing the post of 11/13/2013 from The Cen-Tex Smoker, I was wondering about
cold smoking raw Salmon (from Walmart)  . . . is there an IT I should be concerned about reaching?


Comments

  • st¡kest¡ke Posts: 217
    edited December 7
    If you are trying to reach an IT, it would be hot smoking

    cold smoke cured salmon

    or hot smoke raw salmon
  • EggbertGreenIIEggbertGreenII Posts: 206
    edited December 7
    Here is a recipe for cold smoked salmon that I'm anxious to try. It's a Steven Raichlen  video. From what I've learned, the secret is in the curing prior to smoking. Raichlen suggests smoking the salmon in this recipe for 12 hours.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNeGWC7dd98
    Tampa Bay, Florida
  • lkapigianlkapigian Posts: 4,297
     + 1 needs to be cured, smoke temp below 70 ideal , use High Quality Salmon...probably not Wal-Mart 
    Visalia, Ca
  • lkapigian said:
     + 1 needs to be cured, smoke temp below 70 ideal , use High Quality Salmon...probably not Wal-Mart 
    I live in a 1 horse town in NE KS, so options are limited unless I make a road trip to Manhattan KS of 120 miles round trip . . . prob wait until I have a few other things before I make that kind of trip.  What kind of Salmon would you recommend?
  • st¡ke said:
    If you are trying to reach an IT, it would be hot smoking

    cold smoke cured salmon

    or hot smoke raw salmon
    Thanks Jeff!
  • TheophanTheophan Posts: 2,309
    I would encourage you to read Cold Smoking Meats: Don't Do It by Meathead Goldwyn, a guy many here respect a lot.  He specifically includes cold-smoking fish in "don't do it."  He says, among other things,
    Yes, many people do it. Many people also go 100 mph on the highway. That doesn't make it safe. I have excellent equipment and extensive knowledge of the subject, yet I never cold smoke. I love my family too much... 

    ... Acme Smoked Fish is the largest commercial fish smoker in the nation. I have toured their plant in Pompano Beach, Florida, where they have precise instrumentation and tip top sanitation and a HACCP plan. Yet in 2015 they had to recall some fish. Food safety professor Martin Wiedmann of Cornell University says the problem is that "it's not hot enough to kill the listeria that comes in the raw fish."
    Also, I've never seen true sushi-grade salmon in a store, and if hasn't been frozen to super-low temperatures, much lower than normal freezers, then it can infect you with parasites if it's not cooked to 160° or above.  fyi
  • Been to Marysville (Jeffery energy center), so I guessed Wal-Mart salmon is your best choice.  Go ahead and get some, do the salt pack overnight, wash it off and let the pelicle form, and hot smoke it.  You will love it!

    Land of OZ-Hays Kansas

    BGE XL++Flameboss 300 WiFi++Blackstone 36"++Custom Gravity Feed cabinet smoker++2 Weber Kettles

  • Been to Marysville (Jeffery energy center), so I guessed Wal-Mart salmon is your best choice.  Go ahead and get some, do the salt pack overnight, wash it off and let the pelicle form, and hot smoke it.  You will love it!
    Thank You . . . I worked for UPRR (Ret) and been there a few times when I took a setup to take a coal train there, not my normal seniority district run.
  • Theophan said:
    I would encourage you to read Cold Smoking Meats: Don't Do It by Meathead Goldwyn, a guy many here respect a lot.  He specifically includes cold-smoking fish in "don't do it."  He says, among other things,
    Yes, many people do it. Many people also go 100 mph on the highway. That doesn't make it safe. I have excellent equipment and extensive knowledge of the subject, yet I never cold smoke. I love my family too much... 

    ... Acme Smoked Fish is the largest commercial fish smoker in the nation. I have toured their plant in Pompano Beach, Florida, where they have precise instrumentation and tip top sanitation and a HACCP plan. Yet in 2015 they had to recall some fish. Food safety professor Martin Wiedmann of Cornell University says the problem is that "it's not hot enough to kill the listeria that comes in the raw fish."
    Also, I've never seen true sushi-grade salmon in a store, and if hasn't been frozen to super-low temperatures, much lower than normal freezers, then it can infect you with parasites if it's not cooked to 160° or above.  fyi
    Thank You Theophan . . . guess I be better to try a hot smoke
  • Amazed me that those 3 boilers could burn thru 3 trains per day! 100+ cars per train.  All coming from Powder River Basin in Wyoming.  That’s a lot of coal!

    Land of OZ-Hays Kansas

    BGE XL++Flameboss 300 WiFi++Blackstone 36"++Custom Gravity Feed cabinet smoker++2 Weber Kettles

  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 28,366
    st¡ke said:
    If you are trying to reach an IT, it would be hot smoking

    cold smoke cured salmon

    or hot smoke raw salmon
    Thanks Jeff!
    It might be a different Jeff, but it's not the Stike,man.
    ______________________________________________
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  • st¡kest¡ke Posts: 217
    st¡ke said:
    If you are trying to reach an IT, it would be hot smoking

    cold smoke cured salmon

    or hot smoke raw salmon
    Thanks Jeff!
    It might be a different Jeff, but it's not the Stike,man.
    It's me. Absolutely. 

    I'm definitely not anyone else

    signed 
    jeff


  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 28,366
    st¡ke said:
    st¡ke said:
    If you are trying to reach an IT, it would be hot smoking

    cold smoke cured salmon

    or hot smoke raw salmon
    Thanks Jeff!
    It might be a different Jeff, but it's not the Stike,man.
    It's me. Absolutely. 

    I'm definitely not anyone else

    signed 
    jeff


    But that's not what you said.
    ______________________________________________
    This is my signature line just so you're not confused.  Love me or hate me, I am forum Marmite.
    Large and Medium BGE, Kamado Joe Jr, Akorn Jr, smoker with a 5k btu AC, gas grill, fire pit, pack of angry cats, two turntables and a microphone, my friend.  Registered republican.
    New Orleans, LA - we know how to eat 

  • st¡kest¡ke Posts: 217
    Wait. Whatever he said is BS. 

    I am definitely not anyone pretending to be anyone. 

    Ask me something only I would know 
  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 28,366
    Sure.  Who did you email yesterday and say you don't know whose account yours is but it certainly wasn't his?
    ______________________________________________
    This is my signature line just so you're not confused.  Love me or hate me, I am forum Marmite.
    Large and Medium BGE, Kamado Joe Jr, Akorn Jr, smoker with a 5k btu AC, gas grill, fire pit, pack of angry cats, two turntables and a microphone, my friend.  Registered republican.
    New Orleans, LA - we know how to eat 

  • st¡kest¡ke Posts: 217
    You! Obviously. 

    what do I win? 
  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 28,366
    Wasn't me.  I just heard it from someone who had just heard from him responding to the inquiry.  Nice try.  As long as you're funny  informative and mean to the deserving, I'll pretend you are (stike)...
    ______________________________________________
    This is my signature line just so you're not confused.  Love me or hate me, I am forum Marmite.
    Large and Medium BGE, Kamado Joe Jr, Akorn Jr, smoker with a 5k btu AC, gas grill, fire pit, pack of angry cats, two turntables and a microphone, my friend.  Registered republican.
    New Orleans, LA - we know how to eat 

  • st¡kest¡ke Posts: 217
    Wasn't me.  I just heard it from someone who had just heard from him responding to the inquiry.  Nice try.  As long as you're funny  informative and mean to the deserving, I'll pretend you are (stike)...
    Oh. I misunderstood the question.  

    You said *I* emailed someone.

    The person who emailed me was someone you know very well. I would say his name here but don't want to out him because he is very private. 

    I told him this account wasn't me for reasons of plausible deniability. 

    But it actually is me. 

    See?
  • DFWDFW Posts: 63
    Who is stike? 
    Arlington, TX
  • DFWDFW Posts: 63
    I support plausible deniability - red team


    Arlington, TX
  • fishlessmanfishlessman Posts: 23,906
    st¡ke said:
    Wasn't me.  I just heard it from someone who had just heard from him responding to the inquiry.  Nice try.  As long as you're funny  informative and mean to the deserving, I'll pretend you are (stike)...
    Oh. I misunderstood the question.  

    You said *I* emailed someone.

    The person who emailed me was someone you know very well. I would say his name here but don't want to out him because he is very private. 

    I told him this account wasn't me for reasons of plausible deniability. 

    But it actually is me. 

    See?
    we would need to see this years pumpkin =) see?
  • BobDangerBobDanger Posts: 259
    Anyone cold smoke then smoke with heat?

    Eastern Shore Virginia 

    Medium & Mini Max
  • LegumeLegume Posts: 8,926
    BobDanger said:
    Anyone cold smoke then smoke with heat?

    Every time I try to smoke something now that the crack in my base has expanded.
    Austin, TX
  • st¡kest¡ke Posts: 217
    edited December 7
    st¡ke said:
    Wasn't me.  I just heard it from someone who had just heard from him responding to the inquiry.  Nice try.  As long as you're funny  informative and mean to the deserving, I'll pretend you are (stike)...
    Oh. I misunderstood the question.  

    You said *I* emailed someone.

    The person who emailed me was someone you know very well. I would say his name here but don't want to out him because he is very private. 

    I told him this account wasn't me for reasons of plausible deniability. 

    But it actually is me. 

    See?
    we would need to see this years pumpkin =) see?
    I only share my "pumpkin" with close friends. But pictures of it are out there on the internet. 

    Adults only. 
  • DFW said:
    Who is stike? 
      I can't answer at but I can tell you this place is a lot more interesting when he contributes
    South of Columbus, Ohio.
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