Hurricane Florence: OT

nolaegghead

northGAcock

thetrim said:

northGAcock said:

gdenby said:

Dear Carolinians,

Pack up your pork, and head for the hills, please.  Come back, and 'Q another day.

The coastal areas are largely evacuated, or are in process. Here inland we are due a butt load of rain. I am fortunate to be on a high spot in my neighborhood. We have a plan should we loose power. Bracing for the wind as well. We have a tailgate gas grill, water, Blackston and Grub. Have extended invites to some folks on the coast. Our pets will be with us...getting ready to hunker down. All the best to our Carolina brothers to the north....and our instate friends. 

Bloodys prep underway???

$hit....got to go back to the store.

theyolksonyou

Jeremiah said:

theyolksonyou said:

Not a lot of space here, but we do have a couch, love seat and a basement where we can move shît around.  

And a couple of air mattresses 

So that’s answers it. It takes a Hurricane evac. 

1. I never said anyone could stay
2. I never said you a-holes were welcome
3. I knew you d-heads would say something 

YukonRon

theyolksonyou said:

Jeremiah said:

theyolksonyou said:

Not a lot of space here, but we do have a couch, love seat and a basement where we can move shît around.  

And a couple of air mattresses 

So that’s answers it. It takes a Hurricane evac. 

1. I never said anyone could stay
2. I never said you a-holes were welcome
3. I knew you d-heads would say something 

#GETOFFAMYLAWN

NC_Egghead

All the current BS aside on this thread; it’s been a busy day at the coast. Got my 1.5 mile swim in in CLT this morning and then headed east after tying up a couple items at home. Got our place pretty much squared away, spoke to the neighbors to be sure they were set, then went and helped a friend from Raleigh who has 3 rental houses out here. Helped him board up his house on stilts. It’s freakin hot and humid here; just nasty, but it was a little better at his house. We’re about 200 yards to the ICW but he’s half that and it really made a difference. After we finished up, discovered most of the restaurants are closed; there was a 15 car line at the Blowjangles Drive thru (inside was closed) but our good ole biker bar at the end of my street was open. Packed too.  Bonus is that it’s Taco Tuesday! Made my day! A lot of folks are already gone. I saw all kinds of boats, campers, golf carts, horse trailers heading west on the way here. Even saw about 8 Coast Guard boats heading west! That’s when you know it’s on! It’s looking like more of a rain event, that is the flooding will be worse than the wind, but everything has been done to prepare for the worst. They have gone so far as to dismantle billboards. Believe me, there are no hurricane “noobs” here. Heading back to CLT in the early AM, trying to beat some of that traffic. I’m exhausted but it’s all good! A couple pics from today; this is from Cape Carteret, NC around sunset. 

piney

DoubleEgger said:

Supposed to be nice here in North Georgia this weekend. I’ve got room, an extra full kitchen, and a XL for you. 

And probably one of the nicest houses on the lake! Thanks to you and Marissa for being the thoughtful and kind people that you are. 

nolaegghead

nolaegghead

Probably just fake news.

6 Years Ago, North Carolina Chose To Ignore Rising Sea Levels. This Week It Braces For Disaster.

Confronted with Hurricane Florence, North Carolina prepares for a state of emergency.

By Jenavieve Hatch

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In 2012, North Carolina legislators passed a bill that barred policymakers and developers from using up-to-date climate science to plan for rising sea levels on the state’s coast. Now Hurricane Florence threatens to cause a devastating storm surge that could put thousands of lives in danger and cost the state billions of dollars worth of damage.

The hurricane, which is expected to make landfall on Friday, is shaping up to be one of the worst storms to hit the East Coast. Residents of North Carolina’s Outer Banks and mainland coasts have already been ordered to evacuate. President Donald Trump declared a state of emergency in both North and South Carolina, and a Federal Emergency Management Agency administrator said that the Category 4 hurricane will likely cause “massive damage to our country.”

And the rise in sea levels, experts say, is making the storm surge worse.

Sea level rise is a direct consequence of global warming; the warming of the ocean has resulted in thermal expansion and melted ice sheets and glaciers that are causing the oceans to rise. Since 1950, the sea level has risen 6.5 inches ― a number that sounds small but has actually had major consequences across the country.  

“Sea level rising, simply put, makes every coastal flood deeper and more destructive,” said Ben Strauss, CEO of Climate Central, a climate change research organization that has published dozens of studies about rising sea levels and the risks of ignoring the problem. “Ignoring it is incredibly dangerous.”

“It only takes a few extra inches of water depth to be the difference between a ruined floor and no damage, or a ruined electrical system and just a ruined floor,” Strauss said. “Floods tend to be a great deal more destructive and costly than homeowners anticipate.”

Sea level rise can also affect the severity of hurricanes, said William Sweet, an oceanographer at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. “If you compared storm surge heights from the same storm at the same location over several decades, the surge would be higher ― assuming no change in flood defenses ― because of sea level rise,” Sweet said.  

But in North Carolina, lawmakers chose to ignore the threats. A panel of scientists on the state Coastal Resources Commission issued a dire warning in March 2010, estimating that the sea levels along the state’s coast would rise 39 inches over the next century. Conservative lawmakers and business interest groups feared the report would hurt lucrative real estate development on the state’s coast and sought to undermine it. A lobbying group committed to economic development on the coast accused the panel of “pulling data out of their hip pocket.”

Conservative state Rep. Pat McElraft, whose top campaign contributors were the North Carolina Association of Realtors and the North Carolina Home Builders’ Association, drafted a bill in response that rejected the panel’s predictions.

McElraft introduced the bill in April 2011, and it passed the legislature in the summer of 2012.

Part of the bill stipulated that state and local agencies must also refer to historical linear predictions of sea level rise rather than current research, and another alarming section required that research look only at 30-year predictions rather than at a century, as the CRC report had done. Supporters of the bill saw short-term benefits in more affordable insurance, and continued opportunities for real estate development and tourism along the attractive coast. Critics saw the long-term consequences of damaged homes and businesses and vast swaths of the state being swallowed by floods.   

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Environmental scientists, coastal researchers and a number of lawmakers called the measure a blatant denial of crucial climate science and criticized then-Gov. Bev Perdue (D) for not acting on the bill and therefore allowing it to become law.

“By putting our heads in the sand, literally, we are not helping property owners,” said then-state Sen. Deborah K. Ross. “We are hurting them. We are not giving them information they might need to protect their property. Ignorance is not bliss. It’s dangerous.”

‘It’s a really bad setup’

In North Carolina, the state’s topography and the rising sea levels have made for even more dangerous storms and floods, Strauss said. Unlike coastal communities that have deep, cliff-like dropoffs, North Carolina’s coast is flat, wide and shallow, “like a kiddie pool,” Strauss said. “When you think about storm surge, some places have higher potential than others. The same storm would produce different surges depending on the topography,” said Strauss.

The state also has a wide, shallow continental shelf compared with places like Miami, which “means there is massive potential for a storm surge,” he said.

“Especially a storm like this, that’s moving straight forward,” he said. “It’s a really bad setup.”

At the same time, climate change has “supercharged” recent storms, as HuffPost’s Chris D’Angelo reported on Friday, putting Florence on track to do as much, if not more, damage than last year’s Hurricane Harvey, which devastated parts of Texas and Louisiana.

“It is fair to say that the very same factors are likely at play here, namely very warm ocean temperatures and an anomalous jet stream pattern favoring stalled weather systems,” said Michael Mann, a climate scientist at Pennsylvania State University.

Climate change experts say a more proactive approach to emergency preparedness is necessary, including a better understanding of how global warming and sea level rising are affecting storms.

But it’s often complicated to bring the issue of how to adapt to the changing climate into emergency management discussions, said Jessica Whitehead, the coastal communities hazards adaptation specialist at North Carolina Sea Grant. Emergency response is so often dealing with a crisis, and “it is exceptionally difficult” to plan for one catastrophe while recovering from another.

YukonRon

@nolaegghead

Wow. 

HeavyG

@nolaegghead - gotta love the sweet, sweet irony:

MaskedMarvel

Greetings friends,

Greensboro North Carolina here. 

Depending on which model you believe, we’ll get between one and twenty one inches of rain. We are directly on the projection line for the eye to hit us inland Saturday night/Sunday morning.  Basically, we are in the same boat as @piney - best of luck, brother!

Of course, it goes without saying, if there is anyone in need, please reach out. We’re smoking pork butts Thursday night for Friday. 

Here’s my phone number - 336/392-1954


We will have our own challenges here with rain and flooding. But we’ll have food, bottles of water, beer/wine/liquor, and cigars. Challenges are better met with cigars. 

Happily, we made a GIANT bag of bourbon slushie and froze it not too long ago. 

Beat of luck, everyone!
8-Damien

Kent8621

I hope all yall are getting out of there ok.  I tried to go donate blood but because I went to india earlier this year I was told I couldn't.  I would recommend if anyone can please stop by your local blood bank and give a pint or two, that is often overlooked in disasters but very crucial to help those affected.  God bless and if anyone is going as far as Alabama let me know we will help with food and whatever we can.

CTMike

Looks to me like Flo is going to stall at the coast for 24 hours or so. Sounds like maximum damage to those areas. 

I sincerely hope that everyone in the area is playing it smart and getting the hell out of Dodge. 

Jupiter Jim

nolaegghead said:

Newsflash, update on storm:

Making Weather Great! Fake News!!!!!!!!

thetrim

nolaegghead said:

Natural (or is it "unnatural?) disaster heading near him:   

Robertson then asked his congregation to “put a hand out toward the Atlantic” and to repeat after him.

“In the name of Jesus, you Hurricane Florence, we speak to you in the name of Jesus, and we command the storm to cease its forward motion and go harmlessly into the Atlantic,” Robertson said.

“Go up north away from land and veer off in the name of Jesus. We declare in the name of the lord that you shall go no farther, you shall do no damage in this area,” the evangelical leader continued.

...and to other areas:

• 9/11 Following the devastating attack, the televangelist Jerry Falwell said 9/11 occurred because of pagans, abortionists, feminists, "the gays and the lesbians" and the ACLU.

• Hurricane Katrina Weighing in on the crisis, pastor John Hagee said "I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they were recipients of the judgment of God for that."  Hagee later retracted that statement.
  

• The 2006 American Tsunami? On that year, Robertson predicted that in America, there will be "earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricanes, tornados -- volcanic eruption. The coasts will be lashed by storms and disasters and, yet, this still isn't the big one. Bigger ones are even coming.

Just keep in mind Katrina hit before Brisket Camp started....

Jupiter Jim

theyolksonyou said:

Jeremiah said:

theyolksonyou said:

Not a lot of space here, but we do have a couch, love seat and a basement where we can move shît around.  

And a couple of air mattresses 

So that’s answers it. It takes a Hurricane evac. 

1. I never said anyone could stay
2. I never said you a-holes were welcome
3. I knew you d-heads would say something 

Jason I felt the Love!

YukonRon

South Carolina looks like it is the target now.
Best of luck.

Acn

nolaegghead said:

Newsflash, update on storm:

Well, at least it’s a true statement.

500

Y'all be careful out there.  

500

Hurricane hacks;
https://www.wral.com/hurricane-hacks-tips-to-help-you-get-through-a-storm/17835917/

DoubleEgger

500 said:

Hurricane hacks;
https://www.wral.com/hurricane-hacks-tips-to-help-you-get-through-a-storm/17835917/

That first “hack” has to be the dumbest prep tip I’ve ever heard. 

Spaightlabs

Acn said:

nolaegghead said:

Newsflash, update on storm:

Well, at least it’s a true statement.

The genius in chief says 'oh yeah!'

500

SaintJohnsEgger

When Irma tore through Florida last year we were without power for 15 hours. 

I was worried about stuff in the garage freezer so before the storm hit I took one of my Maverick 732S probes and put it in the freezer. That way I was able to monitor the freezer temp while the power was out. I put the probe in before  the power went out  and placed some weight on the freezer lid to get a good seal. To conserver the batteries I didn't turn it on until after the power was out.

By monitoring the temp I was able to determine that it never went above 42 degrees inside the freezer.

You guys stay safe and protect those Eggs.

DoubleEgger

Get your Smokeware caps ready! 

GrillSgt

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/12/north-carolina-didnt-like-science-on-sea-levels-so-passed-a-law-against-it

Kent8621

DoubleEgger said:

500 said:

Hurricane hacks;
https://www.wral.com/hurricane-hacks-tips-to-help-you-get-through-a-storm/17835917/

That first “hack” has to be the dumbest prep tip I’ve ever heard. 

idk in college we used to do that for parties.  the apartment had access to the basement in it and we could use them as coolers and keep everything cold it worked well.  the industrial ones like we had would hold a keg if you removed the agitator

NCSmoky

GrillSgt said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/12/north-carolina-didnt-like-science-on-sea-levels-so-passed-a-law-against-it

Lot of people about to be impacted by this storm, maybe save the schadenfreud for another day

Gulfcoastguy

DoubleEgger said:

500 said:

Hurricane hacks;
https://www.wral.com/hurricane-hacks-tips-to-help-you-get-through-a-storm/17835917/

That first “hack” has to be the dumbest prep tip I’ve ever heard. 

The first one is a bit ditzy but the others are okay.

Jupiter Jim

Acn said:

nolaegghead said:

Newsflash, update on storm:

Well, at least it’s a true statement.

Might be a first for Frump!