Yeti Caved. Gutless.

DMW

bgebrent said:

NRA life member.  Got a problem with that?  Here we go.

You didn't answer my question about grapes. I see you are deflecting.

bgebrent

Well, that's me too, NOT.  Not AMA for me.  Pharma is the big boy.

JohnInCarolina

DoubleEgger said:

Everyone keeps saying the NRA is so powerful yet they aren’t on the list of top donors. The medical field is the big boy in Washington 

https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/top.php?indexType=s

The NRA’s power really isn’t about money so much as their ability to mobilize their network of supporters.

bgebrent

JohnInCarolina said:

DoubleEgger said:

Everyone keeps saying the NRA is so powerful yet they aren’t on the list of top donors. The medical field is the big boy in Washington 

https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/top.php?indexType=s

The NRA’s power really isn’t about money so much as their ability to mobilize their network of supporters.

Who donate money.  It's all about money.

bgebrent

Or is this an airport question?

DMW

bgebrent said:

Or is this an airport question?

It's always about airports.

YukonRon

Hartsfield is an RTIC airport.

theyolksonyou

YukonRon said:

Hartsfield is an RTIC airport.

I would rate it more Igloo. 

JohnInCarolina

bgebrent said:

JohnInCarolina said:

DoubleEgger said:

Everyone keeps saying the NRA is so powerful yet they aren’t on the list of top donors. The medical field is the big boy in Washington 

https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/top.php?indexType=s

The NRA’s power really isn’t about money so much as their ability to mobilize their network of supporters.

Who donate money.  It's all about money.

Well, not a ton actually. Not compared to the medical field.  But they do something just as important: they vote.

DMW

theyolksonyou said:

YukonRon said:

Hartsfield is an RTIC airport.

I would rate it more Igloo. 

YukonRon

So I am guessing NRA is not No Republicans Anymore?
Missed that one too.
Gotta up my game.

Dobie

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B9nu72um6-o

DMW

Dobie said:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B9nu72um6-o

Sponsored by Mossberg...

Dobie

Newsflash everything you see in the media is sponsored by someone. 

bgebrent

JohnInCarolina said:

bgebrent said:

JohnInCarolina said:

DoubleEgger said:

Everyone keeps saying the NRA is so powerful yet they aren’t on the list of top donors. The medical field is the big boy in Washington 

https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/top.php?indexType=s

The NRA’s power really isn’t about money so much as their ability to mobilize their network of supporters.

Who donate money.  It's all about money.

Well, not a ton actually. Not compared to the medical field.  But they do something just as important: they vote.

True.  And they always vote. Midterms included.  God Bless America

YukonRon

GBA.

DMW

Dobie said:

Newsflash everything you see in the media is sponsored by someone. 

Dobie

What about the message @DMW got any comments on the real talking points there? 

bgebrent

Dobie said:

What about the message @DMW got any comments on the real talking points there? 

Wait, we're supposed to read?  JC!

DMW

Dobie said:

What about the message @DMW got any comments on the real talking points there? 

Sure, I'll start with the initial postured talking point. Armed guards in every school in our country sounds like a great idea, but it really isn't an economically feasible concept. It sounds like a great idea until everyone realizes they don't want to pay upwards of $15K property taxes. Mine already are getting pretty close to that, and I know some that are already paying more than that. Putting the burden of prevention and protection on schools just doesn't seem right.

bgebrent

DMW said:

Dobie said:

What about the message @DMW got any comments on the real talking points there? 

Sure, I'll start with the initial postured talking point. Armed guards in every school in our country sounds like a great idea, but it really isn't an economically feasible concept. It sounds like a great idea until everyone realizes they don't want to pay upwards of $15K property taxes. Mine already are getting pretty close to that, and I know some that are already paying more than that. Putting the burden of prevention and protection on schools just doesn't seem right.

Tax would be 1/3 that in KY.  Then how does it seem.  Burden is the wrong word by the way.

DMW

bgebrent said:

DMW said:

Dobie said:

What about the message @DMW got any comments on the real talking points there? 

Sure, I'll start with the initial postured talking point. Armed guards in every school in our country sounds like a great idea, but it really isn't an economically feasible concept. It sounds like a great idea until everyone realizes they don't want to pay upwards of $15K property taxes. Mine already are getting pretty close to that, and I know some that are already paying more than that. Putting the burden of prevention and protection on schools just doesn't seem right.

Tax would be 1/3 that in KY.  Then how does it seem.  Burden is the wrong word by the way.

What is the correct word?

bgebrent

DMW said:

bgebrent said:

DMW said:

Dobie said:

What about the message @DMW got any comments on the real talking points there? 

Sure, I'll start with the initial postured talking point. Armed guards in every school in our country sounds like a great idea, but it really isn't an economically feasible concept. It sounds like a great idea until everyone realizes they don't want to pay upwards of $15K property taxes. Mine already are getting pretty close to that, and I know some that are already paying more than that. Putting the burden of prevention and protection on schools just doesn't seem right.

Tax would be 1/3 that in KY.  Then how does it seem.  Burden is the wrong word by the way.

What is the correct word?

Onus.  Who's job is it?  Onus my brother.

DMW

bgebrent said:

DMW said:

bgebrent said:

DMW said:

Dobie said:

What about the message @DMW got any comments on the real talking points there? 

Sure, I'll start with the initial postured talking point. Armed guards in every school in our country sounds like a great idea, but it really isn't an economically feasible concept. It sounds like a great idea until everyone realizes they don't want to pay upwards of $15K property taxes. Mine already are getting pretty close to that, and I know some that are already paying more than that. Putting the burden of prevention and protection on schools just doesn't seem right.

Tax would be 1/3 that in KY.  Then how does it seem.  Burden is the wrong word by the way.

What is the correct word?

Onus.  Who's job is it?  Onus my brother.

I can go with that. Onus is only one vowel off from anus. Paging @SGH

stlcharcoal

YukonRon said:

stlcharcoal said:

YukonRon said:

Yeti being ashamed? This is the same foundation that also trained Nikolas Cruz on how to get the most out of his weapon in both a youth program and educational program. You can't make this stuff up

Yes you *can* make this stuff up, and the rag newspaper you read did make it up.

Cruz was a member of the JROTC, which is funded by the US Army.  The school he attended applied for and happily accepted a grant from the NRA to assist with the JROTC program.  So why didn't the headline read "The US Army trained shooter" or "High school trained shooter"???? It wasn't an NRA instructor or syllabus....it was the Army.

So do you want to get rid of the JROTC and/or NRA marksmanship / safety training?

I'm a NRA instructor, range safety officer, and a CCW instructor for the states of MO and IL.  In order to get a permit in either state your have to be trained by a state approved and NRA certified instructor (meaning you went through a lot of training, background checks, spent a chunk of money doing it).  I know you dont like ccw, but wouldn't you rather have qualified people like myself teaching it?  

I understood it to be an after school program which was funded by the NRA, separate from ROTC, which also taught other students, not affiliated with ROTC. This was what I had read, and also had an ATF agent explain it to me.

Yes, he was part of some marksmanship team as well.......they used air rifles, not AR-15s.  The NRA still didn't "train" him like all the articles claim--no NRA instructors, no NRA training courses.  The NRA Foundation gave the school a grant that the school applied for.   By the same standard, the papers could have written a nearly identical article stating the school or US Army trained him (and either would have been more accurate.)  But does it really matter in the end?  No.

DMW

We have all strayed over so many tangents. However, I have seen no evidence whatsoever to support the OP's claim that Yeti "caved". I have seen nothing that would lead me to believe that Yeti was under pressure to make any sort of decision one way or another. I'd like to see some sort of evidence in support of that.

Actually, I'd rather not. What I would like; is that we would all step back, take a look, and decide that we are more decent than taking pop shots at each other.

GrillSgt

bgebrent said:

Heartbreaking watching the Yeti desecration.  Speechless.

Seriously. I hate status symbols and that is one. 

Ozzie_Isaac

Summary please.  Who won/lost and made an a$$ of themselves?

bgebrent

GrillSgt said:

bgebrent said:

Heartbreaking watching the Yeti desecration.  Speechless.

Seriously. I hate status symbols and that is one. 

Could not agree more.  Don't miss my sarcasm please.

Ozzie_Isaac

DMW said:

We have all strayed over so many tangents. However, I have seen no evidence whatsoever to support the OP's claim that Yeti "caved". I have seen nothing that would lead me to believe that Yeti was under pressure to make any sort of decision one way or another. I'd like to see some sort of evidence in support of that.

Actually, I'd rather not. What I would like; is that we would all step back, take a look, and decide that we are more decent than taking pop shots at each other.

You are a d!ck