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Yeti Caved. Gutless.

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  • DMW
    DMW Posts: 13,832
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    bgebrent said:
    NRA life member.  Got a problem with that?  Here we go.
    You didn't answer my question about grapes. I see you are deflecting.
    They/Them
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  • bgebrent
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    Well, that's me too, NOT.  Not AMA for me.  Pharma is the big boy.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • JohnInCarolina
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    DoubleEgger said:
    Everyone keeps saying the NRA is so powerful yet they aren’t on the list of top donors. The medical field is the big boy in Washington 

    https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/top.php?indexType=s
    The NRA’s power really isn’t about money so much as their ability to mobilize their network of supporters.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • bgebrent
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    JohnInCarolina said:
    DoubleEgger said:
    Everyone keeps saying the NRA is so powerful yet they aren’t on the list of top donors. The medical field is the big boy in Washington 

    https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/top.php?indexType=s
    The NRA’s power really isn’t about money so much as their ability to mobilize their network of supporters.
    Who donate money.  It's all about money.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • bgebrent
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    Or is this an airport question?
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • DMW
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    bgebrent said:
    Or is this an airport question?
    It's always about airports.
    They/Them
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  • YukonRon
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    Hartsfield is an RTIC airport.
    "Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber

    XL and MM
    Louisville, Kentucky
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  • theyolksonyou
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    YukonRon said:
    Hartsfield is an RTIC airport.
    I would rate it more Igloo. 
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 30,981
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    bgebrent said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    DoubleEgger said:
    Everyone keeps saying the NRA is so powerful yet they aren’t on the list of top donors. The medical field is the big boy in Washington 

    https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/top.php?indexType=s
    The NRA’s power really isn’t about money so much as their ability to mobilize their network of supporters.
    Who donate money.  It's all about money.
    Well, not a ton actually. Not compared to the medical field.  But they do something just as important: they vote.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • DMW
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    theyolksonyou said:
    YukonRon said:
    Hartsfield is an RTIC airport.
    I would rate it more Igloo. 

    They/Them
    Morgantown, PA

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  • YukonRon
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    So I am guessing NRA is not No Republicans Anymore?
    Missed that one too.
    Gotta up my game.

    "Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber

    XL and MM
    Louisville, Kentucky
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  • Dobie
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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B9nu72um6-o
    Jacksonville FL
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  • DMW
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    Dobie said:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B9nu72um6-o
    Sponsored by Mossberg...
    They/Them
    Morgantown, PA

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  • Dobie
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    Newsflash everything you see in the media is sponsored by someone. 
    Jacksonville FL
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  • bgebrent
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    JohnInCarolina said:
    bgebrent said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    DoubleEgger said:
    Everyone keeps saying the NRA is so powerful yet they aren’t on the list of top donors. The medical field is the big boy in Washington 

    https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/top.php?indexType=s
    The NRA’s power really isn’t about money so much as their ability to mobilize their network of supporters.
    Who donate money.  It's all about money.
    Well, not a ton actually. Not compared to the medical field.  But they do something just as important: they vote.
    True.  And they always vote. Midterms included.  God Bless America
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • YukonRon
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    GBA.
    "Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber

    XL and MM
    Louisville, Kentucky
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  • DMW
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    Dobie said:
    Newsflash everything you see in the media is sponsored by someone. 

    They/Them
    Morgantown, PA

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  • Dobie
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    What about the message @DMW got any comments on the real talking points there? 
    Jacksonville FL
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  • bgebrent
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    Dobie said:
    What about the message @DMW got any comments on the real talking points there? 
    Wait, we're supposed to read?  JC!
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • DMW
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    Dobie said:
    What about the message @DMW got any comments on the real talking points there? 
    Sure, I'll start with the initial postured talking point. Armed guards in every school in our country sounds like a great idea, but it really isn't an economically feasible concept. It sounds like a great idea until everyone realizes they don't want to pay upwards of $15K property taxes. Mine already are getting pretty close to that, and I know some that are already paying more than that. Putting the burden of prevention and protection on schools just doesn't seem right.
    They/Them
    Morgantown, PA

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  • bgebrent
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    DMW said:
    Dobie said:
    What about the message @DMW got any comments on the real talking points there? 
    Sure, I'll start with the initial postured talking point. Armed guards in every school in our country sounds like a great idea, but it really isn't an economically feasible concept. It sounds like a great idea until everyone realizes they don't want to pay upwards of $15K property taxes. Mine already are getting pretty close to that, and I know some that are already paying more than that. Putting the burden of prevention and protection on schools just doesn't seem right.
    Tax would be 1/3 that in KY.  Then how does it seem.  Burden is the wrong word by the way.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • DMW
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    bgebrent said:
    DMW said:
    Dobie said:
    What about the message @DMW got any comments on the real talking points there? 
    Sure, I'll start with the initial postured talking point. Armed guards in every school in our country sounds like a great idea, but it really isn't an economically feasible concept. It sounds like a great idea until everyone realizes they don't want to pay upwards of $15K property taxes. Mine already are getting pretty close to that, and I know some that are already paying more than that. Putting the burden of prevention and protection on schools just doesn't seem right.
    Tax would be 1/3 that in KY.  Then how does it seem.  Burden is the wrong word by the way.
    What is the correct word?
    They/Them
    Morgantown, PA

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  • bgebrent
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    DMW said:
    bgebrent said:
    DMW said:
    Dobie said:
    What about the message @DMW got any comments on the real talking points there? 
    Sure, I'll start with the initial postured talking point. Armed guards in every school in our country sounds like a great idea, but it really isn't an economically feasible concept. It sounds like a great idea until everyone realizes they don't want to pay upwards of $15K property taxes. Mine already are getting pretty close to that, and I know some that are already paying more than that. Putting the burden of prevention and protection on schools just doesn't seem right.
    Tax would be 1/3 that in KY.  Then how does it seem.  Burden is the wrong word by the way.
    What is the correct word?
    Onus.  Who's job is it?  Onus my brother.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • DMW
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    bgebrent said:
    DMW said:
    bgebrent said:
    DMW said:
    Dobie said:
    What about the message @DMW got any comments on the real talking points there? 
    Sure, I'll start with the initial postured talking point. Armed guards in every school in our country sounds like a great idea, but it really isn't an economically feasible concept. It sounds like a great idea until everyone realizes they don't want to pay upwards of $15K property taxes. Mine already are getting pretty close to that, and I know some that are already paying more than that. Putting the burden of prevention and protection on schools just doesn't seem right.
    Tax would be 1/3 that in KY.  Then how does it seem.  Burden is the wrong word by the way.
    What is the correct word?
    Onus.  Who's job is it?  Onus my brother.
    I can go with that. Onus is only one vowel off from anus. Paging @SGH

    They/Them
    Morgantown, PA

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  • stlcharcoal
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    YukonRon said:
    stlcharcoal said:
    YukonRon said:
    Yeti being ashamed? This is the same foundation that also trained Nikolas Cruz on how to get the most out of his weapon in both a youth program and educational program. You can't make this stuff up

    Yes you *can* make this stuff up, and the rag newspaper you read did make it up.

    Cruz was a member of the JROTC, which is funded by the US Army.  The school he attended applied for and happily accepted a grant from the NRA to assist with the JROTC program.  So why didn't the headline read "The US Army trained shooter" or "High school trained shooter"???? It wasn't an NRA instructor or syllabus....it was the Army.

    So do you want to get rid of the JROTC and/or NRA marksmanship / safety training?

    I'm a NRA instructor, range safety officer, and a CCW instructor for the states of MO and IL.  In order to get a permit in either state your have to be trained by a state approved and NRA certified instructor (meaning you went through a lot of training, background checks, spent a chunk of money doing it).  I know you dont like ccw, but wouldn't you rather have qualified people like myself teaching it?  

    I understood it to be an after school program which was funded by the NRA, separate from ROTC, which also taught other students, not affiliated with ROTC. This was what I had read, and also had an ATF agent explain it to me.


    Yes, he was part of some marksmanship team as well.......they used air rifles, not AR-15s.  The NRA still didn't "train" him like all the articles claim--no NRA instructors, no NRA training courses.  The NRA Foundation gave the school a grant that the school applied for.   By the same standard, the papers could have written a nearly identical article stating the school or US Army trained him (and either would have been more accurate.)  But does it really matter in the end?  No.
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  • DMW
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    We have all strayed over so many tangents. However, I have seen no evidence whatsoever to support the OP's claim that Yeti "caved". I have seen nothing that would lead me to believe that Yeti was under pressure to make any sort of decision one way or another. I'd like to see some sort of evidence in support of that.

    Actually, I'd rather not. What I would like; is that we would all step back, take a look, and decide that we are more decent than taking pop shots at each other.
    They/Them
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  • GrillSgt
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    bgebrent said:
    Heartbreaking watching the Yeti desecration.  Speechless.
    Seriously. I hate status symbols and that is one. 
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
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    Summary please.  Who won/lost and made an a$$ of themselves?
    They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests. - George Carlin
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  • bgebrent
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    GrillSgt said:
    bgebrent said:
    Heartbreaking watching the Yeti desecration.  Speechless.
    Seriously. I hate status symbols and that is one. 
    Could not agree more.  Don't miss my sarcasm please.
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
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    DMW said:
    We have all strayed over so many tangents. However, I have seen no evidence whatsoever to support the OP's claim that Yeti "caved". I have seen nothing that would lead me to believe that Yeti was under pressure to make any sort of decision one way or another. I'd like to see some sort of evidence in support of that.

    Actually, I'd rather not. What I would like; is that we would all step back, take a look, and decide that we are more decent than taking pop shots at each other.
    You are a d!ck
    They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests. - George Carlin
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