Arizona decisions....

GATraveller

@nolaegghead Go ahead and cut the sleeves off your cardigan. You won't need 'em. 

GrillSgt

In retrospect I have concluded that Clinton should have resigned. While I defended him that it was "only sex" it has become clear that he used his authority to abuse women for several years. It is now becoming plain to see that even when a woman acts like she is a willing participant that she may be being abused. Things change and any use of Clinton to defend anyone now is the sign of a mental midget. 

pgprescott

GrillSgt said:

In retrospect I have concluded that Clinton should have resigned. While I defended him that it was "only sex" it has become clear that he used his authority to abuse women for several years. It is now becoming plain to see that even when a woman acts like she is a willing participant that she may be being abused. Things change and any use of Clinton to defend anyone now is the sign of a mental midget. 

Rape is “only sex”?  What changed? The only thing that changed is he isn’t in office and his wife is toast. This is the stuff of real intellectual GIANTS. “Things change”, what a load of crap! People who continue to act as if Slick Willys problems were all about Lewinsky are mental midgets. It hasn’t “ become clear”, it always was clear.

How funny! 

Hans61

Opened the forum and 180 new comments here

GrillSgt

You have proved your status by your post.

Should Trump resign or be prosecuted?

g8golfer

Makes you liberals feel better I’m in Vegas Jan 21-Jan 25 and I got a room at Trump Tower 

JohnInCarolina

g8golfer said:

Makes you liberals feel better I’m in Vegas Jan 21-Jan 25 and I got a room at Trump Tower 

Why would we feel better about you overpaying for a crappy hotel room?  You know the toilet seats aren’t actually made from gold, right?

g8golfer

I’m goimg to kiss the ring and pay my respect to my president. #IMWITHHIM 

lousubcap

I would venture that @g8golfer is on a business trip...but I could be wrong.  

g8golfer

@lousubcap you are correct. I wouldn’t pay $300 a night for a room but since it’s on someone else’s dime I’m going to go. I guess it’s like the Bernie Sanders economics take from the rich and give to the poor. I’m the poor on this trip. 

JohnInCarolina

GrillSgt said:

Should Trump resign or be prosecuted?

At this point I’d go with castrated.

nolaegghead

g8golfer said:

I’m goimg to kiss the ring and pay my respect to my president. #IMWITHHIM 

That seems a little "funny".

To borrow John's signature file:

"If the world is something you accept rather than interpret, then you're susceptible to the influence of charismatic idiots." - NdGT

"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - DT

JohnInCarolina

yep

nooneinparticular

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/47zi7u/the-fake-news-with-ted-nelms-the-panty-pantry

StillH2OEgger

g8golfer said:

Makes you liberals feel better I’m in Vegas Jan 21-Jan 25 and I got a room at Trump Tower 

Have fun. It's the worst location on the strip. You've already padded Trump's bottom line every time he visits Mar-a-Lago.

Eoin

pgprescott said:

GrillSgt said:

In retrospect I have concluded that Clinton should have resigned. While I defended him that it was "only sex" it has become clear that he used his authority to abuse women for several years. It is now becoming plain to see that even when a woman acts like she is a willing participant that she may be being abused. Things change and any use of Clinton to defend anyone now is the sign of a mental midget. 

Rape is “only sex”?  What changed? The only thing that changed is he isn’t in office and his wife is toast. This is the stuff of real intellectual GIANTS. “Things change”, what a load of crap! People who continue to act as if Slick Willys problems were all about Lewinsky are mental midgets. It hasn’t “ become clear”, it always was clear.

How funny! 

Don't you think that Trump's confessed behaviour towards women shows ths same arrogance and attitude as Clinton? Seems to me they are the same, both prepared to abuse their position of power to get what they want.

Eoin

The best we can offer up in recent history is the John Major when PM (Mr grey and boring) shagging another cabinet minister in his Govt. The stuff that goes on in the US would be instant political death here.

pgprescott

Eoin said:

pgprescott said:

GrillSgt said:

In retrospect I have concluded that Clinton should have resigned. While I defended him that it was "only sex" it has become clear that he used his authority to abuse women for several years. It is now becoming plain to see that even when a woman acts like she is a willing participant that she may be being abused. Things change and any use of Clinton to defend anyone now is the sign of a mental midget. 

Rape is “only sex”?  What changed? The only thing that changed is he isn’t in office and his wife is toast. This is the stuff of real intellectual GIANTS. “Things change”, what a load of crap! People who continue to act as if Slick Willys problems were all about Lewinsky are mental midgets. It hasn’t “ become clear”, it always was clear.

How funny! 

Don't you think that Trump's confessed behaviour towards women shows ths same arrogance and attitude as Clinton? Seems to me they are the same, both prepared to abuse their position of power to get what they want.

Yes. Arrogance and attitude. I’m not even close to convinced he outright raped several women like Willy most certainly did. Lewinsky was the very least of Willy’s indiscretions. There appears to be a push to treat all issues the same. Boorish behavior is no where as big a deal as some of the other stuff that is out there. Not to say it’s ok, but the consequences should not be commensurate. IMO. 

JohnInCarolina

Eoin said:

The best we can offer up in recent history is the John Major when PM (Mr grey and boring) shagging another cabinet minister in his Govt. The stuff that goes on in the US would be instant political death here.

It really should have been the end of Trump here.  Forcing yourself on women, groping them on planes, jamming your hand up their skirts when they’re least expecting it, walking in on women changing during beauty contests - only the most cretinous of folk can really rationalize that sort of behavior away to vote for a candidate.  Many people just told themselves the women were all being paid to lie or were part of some vast liberal conspiracy.  It’s crazy but there we have it. 

GrillSgt

I like how the mental midgets drop Hillary into their defense of Trumps sexual assaults. Powerful stuff. 

GrillSgt

Here's a novel defense. https://insiderlouisville.com/metro/state-rep-dan-johnson-commits-suicide-days-after-accusation-that-he-molested-teen/?utm_source=Newsletter+Subscribers&utm_campaign=547b3f9f6f-Manual_Daily_Insider_20171214&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_5ccd89012b-547b3f9f6f-70803845

pgprescott

GrillSgt said:

I like how the mental midgets drop Hillary into their defense of Trumps sexual assaults. Powerful stuff. 

She has acted as bad or worse than ole Trumpy. She’s despicable. She destroyed these poor women. Some would say she belongs in a basket of deplorables. LOL! 

pgprescott

JohnInCarolina said:

Eoin said:

The best we can offer up in recent history is the John Major when PM (Mr grey and boring) shagging another cabinet minister in his Govt. The stuff that goes on in the US would be instant political death here.

It really should have been the end of Trump here.  Forcing yourself on women, groping them on planes, jamming your hand up their skirts when they’re least expecting it, walking in on women changing during beauty contests - only the most cretinous of folk can really rationalize that sort of behavior away to vote for a candidate.  Many people just told themselves the women were all being paid to lie or were part of some vast liberal conspiracy.  It’s crazy but there we have it. 

I am admittedly not up to speed on all these allegations, but allegations they are. My gut tells me that if a single one of these had much credibility at all, or was verifiable at all, the press would have pushed the story non stop and mercilessly. Even you must find it a bit odd that they have made a larger story out of wether or not Sarah Huckabee baked a pecan pie. Please! 

JohnInCarolina

JohnInCarolina

Whoa.  Another spotlight type investigation from
the Post, and this one’s a doozy:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/world/national-security/donald-trump-pursues-vladimir-putin-russian-election-hacking/?hpid=hp_hp-banner-high_trumprussia-duplicate%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.772f953ab2de

GATraveller

Kinda scary.

JohnInCarolina

GATraveller said:

Kinda scary.

That Alabama nearly sent Moore to the Senate?  I agree.  

fishlessman

they should concentrate on voter fraud in district cd 7

JohnInCarolina

fishlessman said:

they should concentrate on voter fraud in district cd 7

Apparently there are folks who believe large numbers of people were bused in to tip the election to Jones.  Of course, there are also folks who believe the Earth is flat. 

DoubleEgger

GATraveller said:

Kinda scary.

Interesting. There are no metropolitan areas or cities of any real size in CD 7.