WiFi BBQ Controllers Question - remote control

stlcharcoal

CanDid said:

stlcharcoal said:

Why should they have to explain that?

For consumers like me that are in the market for a +/-$300 controller and are spending time researching the advantages of one controller over the other. It is a question that was easily answered by you twice in a forum, and not anywhere else that I've found, that other consumers may also be looking for. You're an expert on the controller and its features, so it may seem elementary to you. For somebody like me that is looking to get one, it is not.

That wasn't my point.  I don't know if this is true for FB, but if it was my product I wouldn't acknowledge the absence of the damper at all.  If you're setting the standard, why acknowledge something that could be seen as a shortcoming (comparing it to the obsolete competitor)?  So where only a few like yourself may question it, if you make it a marketing point why you do NOT have one, now you draw everyone's attention to it.......you have to explain why and then take a dig at the competition.  Take the high road--don't acknowledge it, thus making the other guys explain why their unit requires one.  That's just how I see it.

SmokingPiney

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

SmokingPiney said:

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

I'll just throw this out there- all the controllers are made to choke the fire down then keep it barely smoldering by providing puffs of air to a dying fire. This provides perfect temp control but at the cost of dirty, sooty smoke.  

That has not been my experience with the Flame Boss. Once the the grey smoke clears from the initial light-off, my FB keeps the Egg burning thin and blue, clean as a whistle. 

I respectfully disagree. I'm a BGE homer but I don't use it for low and slow anymore- with a controller or without. You can make great bbq in a BGE and with a controller but there is no comparison to a live, unrestricted clean burning wood fire when doing low and slow. 

Truth be told, I haven't used my BGE for any low and slow smokes in a while - I use my Assassin smoker. The BGE is a great cooker, but not a great smoker....and I'm not going to argue stick burner vs any other style of smoker here. 

I stand by my post, though. I've had no problems with sooty, nasty smoke using the FB on my Egg. We agree to disagree. 

stlcharcoal

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

stlcharcoal said:

Good call out- I was talking about smoke from wood chunks. 

You still shouldn't have ANY black smoke coming off of wood.  It should be white until the tars & liquors burn off, then clear when there's only carbon left.  You'll never see black smoke on a wildfire on TV--only white.

I've heard from a lot of folks on the competition circuit that the one shortcoming of the BGE is that they don't get enough smoke.  Because it's so tight at 225F, there just isn't enough O2 to burn enough wood to produce the amount of smoke that they want.  They need something less insulated that will go through more wood.  Sounds backwards, but many the times I've opened my egg after some 20+ hr cooks to find wood chunks still sitting unburned.  For my Midwest palate, low on smoke is fine by me--I'll take all that extra retained moisture anyday. 

The Cen-Tex Smoker

SmokingPiney said:

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

SmokingPiney said:

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

I'll just throw this out there- all the controllers are made to choke the fire down then keep it barely smoldering by providing puffs of air to a dying fire. This provides perfect temp control but at the cost of dirty, sooty smoke.  

That has not been my experience with the Flame Boss. Once the the grey smoke clears from the initial light-off, my FB keeps the Egg burning thin and blue, clean as a whistle. 

I respectfully disagree. I'm a BGE homer but I don't use it for low and slow anymore- with a controller or without. You can make great bbq in a BGE and with a controller but there is no comparison to a live, unrestricted clean burning wood fire when doing low and slow. 

Truth be told, I haven't used my BGE for any low and slow smokes in a while - I use my Assassin smoker. The BGE is a great cooker, but not a great smoker....and I'm not going to argue stick burner vs any other style of smoker here. 

I stand by my post, though. I've had no problems with sooty, nasty smoke using the FB on my Egg. We agree to disagree. 

Fair enough and well said. I am really splitting hairs here. I just nerded out on clean smoke a while back and it cost me $1500 for a new smoker

I think Kamado cookers are the best all-in-one you can get and you can do really good bbq on them along with many other types of stuff. I also think the controllers are cool and have a purpose

Your Asassin is a great smoker. I've been there and talked to those guys when I was looking at a Vault. Funny dudes. 

The Cen-Tex Smoker

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

SmokingPiney said:

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

SmokingPiney said:

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

I'll just throw this out there- all the controllers are made to choke the fire down then keep it barely smoldering by providing puffs of air to a dying fire. This provides perfect temp control but at the cost of dirty, sooty smoke.  

That has not been my experience with the Flame Boss. Once the the grey smoke clears from the initial light-off, my FB keeps the Egg burning thin and blue, clean as a whistle. 

I respectfully disagree. I'm a BGE homer but I don't use it for low and slow anymore- with a controller or without. You can make great bbq in a BGE and with a controller but there is no comparison to a live, unrestricted clean burning wood fire when doing low and slow. 

Truth be told, I haven't used my BGE for any low and slow smokes in a while - I use my Assassin smoker. The BGE is a great cooker, but not a great smoker....and I'm not going to argue stick burner vs any other style of smoker here. 

I stand by my post, though. I've had no problems with sooty, nasty smoke using the FB on my Egg. We agree to disagree. 

Fair enough and well said. I am really splitting hairs here. I just nerded out on clean smoke a while back and it cost me $1500 for a new smoker

I think Kamado cookers are the best all-in-one you can get and you can do really good bbq on them along with many other types of stuff. I also think the controllers are cool and have a purpose

Your Asassin is a great smoker. I've been there and talked to those guys when I was looking at a Vault. Funny dudes. 

Actually I thought Asassin was built at Pitmaker in Houston. I see they are in GA. My Bad. Have not been to Asassin, but have heard nothing but great things about them

SmokingPiney

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

SmokingPiney said:

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

SmokingPiney said:

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

I'll just throw this out there- all the controllers are made to choke the fire down then keep it barely smoldering by providing puffs of air to a dying fire. This provides perfect temp control but at the cost of dirty, sooty smoke.  

That has not been my experience with the Flame Boss. Once the the grey smoke clears from the initial light-off, my FB keeps the Egg burning thin and blue, clean as a whistle. 

I respectfully disagree. I'm a BGE homer but I don't use it for low and slow anymore- with a controller or without. You can make great bbq in a BGE and with a controller but there is no comparison to a live, unrestricted clean burning wood fire when doing low and slow. 

Truth be told, I haven't used my BGE for any low and slow smokes in a while - I use my Assassin smoker. The BGE is a great cooker, but not a great smoker....and I'm not going to argue stick burner vs any other style of smoker here. 

I stand by my post, though. I've had no problems with sooty, nasty smoke using the FB on my Egg. We agree to disagree. 

Fair enough and well said. I am really splitting hairs here. I just nerded out on clean smoke a while back and it cost me $1500 for a new smoker

I think Kamado cookers are the best all-in-one you can get and you can do really good bbq on them along with many other types of stuff. I also think the controllers are cool and have a purpose

Your Asassin is a great smoker. I've been there and talked to those guys when I was looking at a Vault. Funny dudes. 

Actually I thought Asassin was built at Pitmaker in Houston. I see they are in GA. My Bad. Have not been to Asassin, but have heard nothing but great things about them

The Assassin has been a real soldier for me. Once I figured it out, I've rolled some great food from it.......money well spent. 

The Cen-Tex Smoker

Sorry for the hijack- back to regularly scheduled programming!

SmokingPiney

Hijacks on this forum.....heresy!

 No hijack here Cen-Tex - good discussion. 

Cookbook_Chip

Dammit, thought I had a unique product idea:  Alexa skill to read my Stoker or other devices to me.  Just googled and saw FireBoard has an Alexa skill to tell you the temps.  Good on them!  I hope all the others do the same.

HeavyG

Cookbook_Chip said:

Dammit, thought I had a unique product idea:  Alexa skill to read my Stoker or other devices to me.  Just googled and saw FireBoard has an Alexa skill to tell you the temps.  Good on them!  I hope all the others do the same.

The Flame Boss also works with Echo/Alexa.

Cookbook_Chip

HeavyG said:

Cookbook_Chip said:

Dammit, thought I had a unique product idea:  Alexa skill to read my Stoker or other devices to me.  Just googled and saw FireBoard has an Alexa skill to tell you the temps.  Good on them!  I hope all the others do the same.

The Flame Boss also works with Echo/Alexa.

Oh cool. Thx!