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Is BGE really falling behind?
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Legume said:
Well, the flipside of that is fixed pricing where dealers can't offer discounts. I paid less for my XL than the standard price. But I agree, ripping off customers sucks. if there are multiple dealers in an area, this shouldn't be a problem with a little comparison shopping.
I get that, but I was thinking more of like a max MSRP I guess. I would be fine with dealers giving longtime regulars better deals, but I think there should be a ceiling on what dealers can charge for a new egg. You are right about comparison shopping, but unfortunately not everyone does that. I just think it is wrong that certain dealers rip people off, and because of that sometimes it leaves a bad taste in my mouth regarding BGE in general. -
When I talk to people about kamodos i tend to hear "i have a kamodo style"or
"I have a BGE". You can buy a hyundai with more standard features than a BMW for cheaper but in the end which will you like more? I like some of the features on the new KJ but I wonder how the airlift will hold up. I'm buying a BGE for life... and maybe some of my kids life, if I spend an extra couple hundred bucks setting my egg up just right I'm not going to be sad in 20 years because another cooker had it from factory.... -
In the UK he BGE operation lists the prices and has an online configurator. You can buy from them at list price, or from a dealer, so they don't undercut the dealers. It makes sense to do this so everyone knows where the starting point for negotiation is.PlanSB said:My biggest issue with BGE is the lack of standard pricing. I know for a fact that one of my local dealers rips unknowledgeable customers off. Just list the damn MSRPs on the website, BGE gives the dealers too much room to take advantage of customers, imo. -
The shipping is different for various areas. Not apples to apples. I would assume the lowest prices are @ Atlanta and the adjacent southern states. There isn't very much markup in the product, even at MSRP. The key to great customer service is the dealer network and the dedication BGE has towards it's dealers.PlanSB said:
I get that, but I was thinking more of like a max MSRP I guess. I would be fine with dealers giving longtime regulars better deals, but I think there should be a ceiling on what dealers can charge for a new egg. You are right about comparison shopping, but unfortunately not everyone does that. I just think it is wrong that certain dealers rip people off, and because of that sometimes it leaves a bad taste in my mouth regarding BGE in general. -
I don't. Been here since 1986. Lived many a hot hazy humid summers here!Lit said:People here laugh at people that call it Hotlanta.New Albany, Ohio -
Exactly - if the brand name is important to you, then you will be happier with the brand name. Which you will like more is very subjective, the color, name and how the nest looks are all valued differently by each of us.noveggske said:When I talk to people about kamodos i tend to hear "i have a kamodo style"or
"I have a BGE". You can buy a hyundai with more standard features than a BMW for cheaper but in the end which will you like more? I like some of the features on the new KJ but I wonder how the airlift will hold up. I'm buying a BGE for life... and maybe some of my kids life, if I spend an extra couple hundred bucks setting my egg up just right I'm not going to be sad in 20 years because another cooker had it from factory....
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PlanSB said:
I get that, but I was thinking more of like a max MSRP I guess. I would be fine with dealers giving longtime regulars better deals, but I think there should be a ceiling on what dealers can charge for a new egg. You are right about comparison shopping, but unfortunately not everyone does that. I just think it is wrong that certain dealers rip people off, and because of that sometimes it leaves a bad taste in my mouth regarding BGE in general.
Shipping/Freight. BGE's are HEAVY and bulky. Not only are distributor's costs higher to bring them in from ATL, but then it depends on how far the distributor is from the dealer. Then some dealers have a forklift, dock, and warehousing, whereas other can only afford/store what they have on the showroom floor (which came in on a liftgate truck.) My prices could/would be lower since our BGE's were picked up in a BIG order at the distributor, in OUR truck, then are stored in OUR warehouse......but then we're in an industrial area out in the 'burbs (not in a busy retail area.) Standardized/Fixed pricing?? Screw that. Just like buying a car or ANYTHING else, gotta shop around.
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It doesn't have anything to do with the heat. There have been multiple attempts to get people to stop using Hotlanta in recent years including the Bert show.THEBuckeye said:I don't. Been here since 1986. Lived many a hot hazy humid summers here! -
its still too hotLit said:It doesn't have anything to do with the heat. There have been multiple attempts to get people to stop using Hotlanta in recent years including the Bert show.
fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
stlcharcoal said:
Shipping/Freight. BGE's are HEAVY and bulky. Not only are distributor's costs higher to bring them in from ATL, but then it depends on how far the distributor is from the dealer. Then some dealers have a forklift, dock, and warehousing, whereas other can only afford/store what they have on the showroom floor (which came in on a liftgate truck.) My prices could/would be lower since our BGE's were picked up in a BIG order at the distributor, in OUR truck, then are stored in OUR warehouse......but then we're in an industrial area out in the 'burbs (not in a busy retail area.) Standardized/Fixed pricing?? Screw that. Just like buying a car or ANYTHING else, gotta shop around.KJ offers a standard price, and they ship less units (per this thread), so why cant BGE which has higher volume negotiate a better shipping rate and come up with a standard price? The fact that multiple dealers in the same area have different prices on the same exact product is not OK, and it is taking advantage of uninformed customers.
The way we buy cars here is ass backwards though too, tesla actually has figured out the correct way to do it, imo.
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I haven't checked out the Komodo Kamado site for a while and wow they have been busy. I need the 19" Hi-cap Table top in my life.Large BGEBBQ Guru DigiQ IIMartensville, Saskatchewan Canada
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Almost all grill manufacturers let you do whatever you want inside the store, go up or down on price. Case in point, Kamado joe selling an $1899 MAP Price Big Joe in Costco for $1499. Just an FYI, I am selling similar package XL egg for less than my cost (Kjoe's Premium price) for a big joe.PlanSB said:KJ offers a standard price, and they ship less units (per this thread), so why cant BGE which has higher volume negotiate a better shipping rate and come up with a standard price? The fact that multiple dealers in the same area have different prices on the same exact product is not OK, and it is taking advantage of uninformed customers.
The way we buy cars here is ass backwards though too, tesla actually has figured out the correct way to do it, imo.
twww.ceramicgrillstore.com ACGP, Inc. -
Bert is a self absorbed clown.Lit said:It doesn't have anything to do with the heat. There have been multiple attempts to get people to stop using Hotlanta in recent years including the Bert show.New Albany, Ohio -
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Did we get an answer to this yet? Arrive at some kind of consensus?
I need to know if I should toss my BGEs into the garbage or if it's OK to keep on rolling the smoke."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
HA.... if it ain't broke don't fix it. If you do decide to move on I can take yours off your hands for a couple bucks a $2 a pound.. standard recycling fee.JohnInCarolina said:Did we get an answer to this yet? Arrive at some kind of consensus?
I need to know if I should toss my BGEs into the garbage or if it's OK to keep on rolling the smoke. -
Had I not worked for a BGE dealer and got my egg a cost, I would likely have opted for a primo based on the oval design and more efficient use of cooking surface.
Pratt, KS -
I almost bought one of those for my birthday last year.bigalsworth said:I haven't checked out the Komodo Kamado site for a while and wow they have been busy. I need the 19" Hi-cap Table top in my life.
Giving more thought to my next birthday present.
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
Perhaps @BigGreenCraig can weigh in and settle this once and for all.New Albany, Ohio
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Didn't we just go through this last week when someone started a thread about the 2017 Big Joe? To paraphrase/shorten my comments on that thread, and reinforce what @YukonRon said earlier this morning:
Like that thread its intriguing how many (not all, but many) of the posts in this thread favoring other kamados are from newer forum members... just sayin'
If you like BGE, great - enjoy your cooks. If you like KJ or KK or Primo, great - enjoy your cooks as well, but don't be surprised if you get challenged on the BGE forum, just as I would expect to if I went to a KJ forum and posted glowingly about my BGE. In fact I don't know why I'd bother going over there as I'm happy with my Egg and get more help and support from this forum than I ever imagined.
Regardless, I continue to be impressed that BGE allows such an open discussion of their competition on this forum. It doesn't appear to me that any of these threads have been buffaloed.
Looks like the kamado debates are joining the lump debates - I vote these threads only appear on Friday afternoon and only alcohol fueled posts be allowed!
Doug
Wayne, PA
LBGE, Weber Kettle (gifted to my sister), Weber Gasser
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe" Albert Einstein -
What are you saying? You implying these posters are being sent here by the other kamado companies?da87 said:
Like that thread its intriguing how many (not all, but many) of the posts in this thread favoring other kamados are from newer forum members... just sayin'
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Maybe it's a Commie plot, or am I confusing selling grills with the presidential campaign?PlanSB said:What are you saying? You implying these posters are being sent here by the other kamado companies? -
I made no conclusion; just think it is interesting that there's a sudden rush of this type of post with many of the posts in those threads, or the founder of the thread, by new forum members. I simply pointed out a data trend - draw your own conclusions as to its meaning or lack there of.Doug
Wayne, PA
LBGE, Weber Kettle (gifted to my sister), Weber Gasser
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe" Albert Einstein -
regardless if it is a commie plot ever since I was educated on microwave listening devices I have been storing my beloved Sharp microwave in the crawl space.
Fight like a man so you don't die like a dog
- Calico Jack Rackham
1,000 watt Sharp - 1.1 Cu. Ft. Mid-Size Microwave and one sweet steakager (retail 229$)
Scruffy City a.k.a. Knoxville, TN.
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PlanSB said:What are you saying? You implying these posters are being sent here by the other kamado companies?
The owner of KJ did share an eggheadforum.com link/post on his Facebook page..... http://eggheadforum.com/discussion/comment/2121691/#Comment_2121691 -
I actually noticed many of the comments that people say they love the egg are brand new posters. The people I have seen that like the KJ design are people I have seen posting here for years.da87 said:I made no conclusion; just think it is interesting that there's a sudden rush of this type of post with many of the posts in those threads, or the founder of the thread, by new forum members. I simply pointed out a data trend - draw your own conclusions as to its meaning or lack there of. -
For myself, I will only buy BGE for L and XL sizes (currently have an XL). But I will be buying a Joe Jr for my daily driver here soon (Costco), and in my opinion it is the only KJ that has an advantage over the BGE.
In regards to newer posters not favoring BGE as much as more established posters, I think it has to do with brand loyalty. Newer users aren't going to have the same loyalty that a decade+ long user would have. Newer users are questioning BGE more, which isn't a bad thing for the market.
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PirateBill said:regardless if it is a commie plot ever since I was educated on microwave listening devices I have been storing my beloved Sharp microwave in the crawl space.
I keep my Sharp down in the shelter alongside all the MREs and canned food.Doug
Wayne, PA
LBGE, Weber Kettle (gifted to my sister), Weber Gasser
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe" Albert Einstein -
What's a microwave? Is that like what you start out surfing on?Large and Small BGECentral, IL
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Must say ... BAD IDEA!!! That is how the govment finds out about your prepper bunker, then you know what happens ... takes ALL THE GUNS!!!da87 said:
I keep my Sharp down in the shelter alongside all the MREs and canned food.
Fight like a man so you don't die like a dog
- Calico Jack Rackham
1,000 watt Sharp - 1.1 Cu. Ft. Mid-Size Microwave and one sweet steakager (retail 229$)
Scruffy City a.k.a. Knoxville, TN.
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