WAY OT: Keeping gun in vehicle

Killit_and_Grillit

@Eggcelsior I have a sun roof so we were shooting for just behind it. 

I took a vehicle CQB course when I was running SRT and stopped putting firearms forward. The instructor kept locking our seat belts (like a wreck situation) and nobody could reach forward in the cabin. 

Smokin_Trout

Under the steering column doesn't count as out of sight? It has to be completely covered?

ColtsFan

I keep a cheap 9mm in a gun rug under the center console of my Silverado. It's always there... Usually carry a little 380 in my waist. Indiana is a conceal carry state with permit

SoCalTim

4 or 5 summers ago I witnessed a car-to-car shooting on the way home from work. To be honest, I was there about 10 seconds after it happened.

I saw two car's going head-to-head about 50 yards ahead of me - common in Los Angeles.

It all happened so fast, I remember car #1 coming right at me, then swerving to avoid hitting me, just in back, i saw the driver get out of car #2 and open the rear car door and pull his buddy out (why I don't know) blood was everywhere.

He put his buddy in the front seat and drove off.

This memory is stuck on my head ... and it just won't go away.

DuckDogDr

Hen apple what's the name of this holster you have

theyolksonyou

@henapple

onedbguru

WeberWho said:

I've been taught to keep any decals that has to do with guns/hunting off your vehicle. It's an open invite for thief's. Especially in places they know you can't carry 

I say the same thing for your house. While the NRA and "Secured by Smith & Wesson" sign is cute, it also tells would-be thieves you have a gun. And if you live in a state that is very restrictive in terms of concealed carry - meaning you must leave your weapon at home - you are now a prime target when not at home.

In MD, the weapon must be in a locked case in the trunk or furthest reach from anyone with no ammo in the weapon OR even the mag. Your 2A rights are reduced to a "privilege".  One law even made it illegal for a security guard or even an off-duty officer had to "transport" his weapon in the same manner.  Some of that got fixed.  Unfortunately there are too many ignorant people who live in MD that think that restricting gun access to law-abiding citizens will keep them safe.  (Ignorant because the don't think for themselves but only think what they are told by the gun haters). 

HofstraJet

onedbguru said:

WeberWho said:

I've been taught to keep any decals that has to do with guns/hunting off your vehicle. It's an open invite for thief's. Especially in places they know you can't carry 

I say the same thing for your house. While the NRA and "Secured by Smith & Wesson" sign is cute, it also tells would-be thieves you have a gun. And if you live in a state that is very restrictive in terms of concealed carry - meaning you must leave your weapon at home - you are now a prime target when not at home.

In MD, the weapon must be in a locked case in the trunk or furthest reach from anyone with no ammo in the weapon OR even the mag. Your 2A rights are reduced to a "privilege".  One law even made it illegal for a security guard or even an off-duty officer had to "transport" his weapon in the same manner.  Some of that got fixed.  Unfortunately there are too many ignorant people who live in MD that think that restricting gun access to law-abiding citizens will keep them safe.  (Ignorant because the don't think for themselves but only think what they are told by the gun haters). 

Question about the bolded sentence above: if you own a weapon and must leave it at home, how does that make you a prime target when not at home? You would be no different from someone who doesn't own a weapon in the first place.

DoubleEgger

Who needs a gun sign when you can have this 

yljkt

HofstraJet said:

onedbguru said:

WeberWho said:

I've been taught to keep any decals that has to do with guns/hunting off your vehicle. It's an open invite for thief's. Especially in places they know you can't carry 

I say the same thing for your house. While the NRA and "Secured by Smith & Wesson" sign is cute, it also tells would-be thieves you have a gun. And if you live in a state that is very restrictive in terms of concealed carry - meaning you must leave your weapon at home - you are now a prime target when not at home.

In MD, the weapon must be in a locked case in the trunk or furthest reach from anyone with no ammo in the weapon OR even the mag. Your 2A rights are reduced to a "privilege".  One law even made it illegal for a security guard or even an off-duty officer had to "transport" his weapon in the same manner.  Some of that got fixed.  Unfortunately there are too many ignorant people who live in MD that think that restricting gun access to law-abiding citizens will keep them safe.  (Ignorant because the don't think for themselves but only think what they are told by the gun haters). 

Question about the bolded sentence above: if you own a weapon and must leave it at home, how does that make you a prime target when not at home? You would be no different from someone who doesn't own a weapon in the first place.

Well, now a thief would also know there are weapons in the house and possibly steal them. Doesn't mean you would be a bigger target when your out and about. Having a gun stolen from your home can be a huge PITA.  

HofstraJet

yljkt said:

HofstraJet said:

onedbguru said:

WeberWho said:

I've been taught to keep any decals that has to do with guns/hunting off your vehicle. It's an open invite for thief's. Especially in places they know you can't carry 

I say the same thing for your house. While the NRA and "Secured by Smith & Wesson" sign is cute, it also tells would-be thieves you have a gun. And if you live in a state that is very restrictive in terms of concealed carry - meaning you must leave your weapon at home - you are now a prime target when not at home.

In MD, the weapon must be in a locked case in the trunk or furthest reach from anyone with no ammo in the weapon OR even the mag. Your 2A rights are reduced to a "privilege".  One law even made it illegal for a security guard or even an off-duty officer had to "transport" his weapon in the same manner.  Some of that got fixed.  Unfortunately there are too many ignorant people who live in MD that think that restricting gun access to law-abiding citizens will keep them safe.  (Ignorant because the don't think for themselves but only think what they are told by the gun haters). 

Question about the bolded sentence above: if you own a weapon and must leave it at home, how does that make you a prime target when not at home? You would be no different from someone who doesn't own a weapon in the first place.

Well, now a thief would also know there are weapons in the house and possibly steal them. Doesn't mean you would be a bigger target when your out and about. Having a gun stolen from your home can be a huge PITA.  

I see - the house is the prime target, not the individual. Got it. Thanks!

onedbguru

HofstraJet said:

onedbguru said:

WeberWho said:

I've been taught to keep any decals that has to do with guns/hunting off your vehicle. It's an open invite for thief's. Especially in places they know you can't carry 

I say the same thing for your house. While the NRA and "Secured by Smith & Wesson" sign is cute, it also tells would-be thieves you have a gun. And if you live in a state that is very restrictive in terms of concealed carry - meaning you must leave your weapon at home - you are now a prime target when not at home.

In MD, the weapon must be in a locked case in the trunk or furthest reach from anyone with no ammo in the weapon OR even the mag. Your 2A rights are reduced to a "privilege".  One law even made it illegal for a security guard or even an off-duty officer had to "transport" his weapon in the same manner.  Some of that got fixed.  Unfortunately there are too many ignorant people who live in MD that think that restricting gun access to law-abiding citizens will keep them safe.  (Ignorant because the don't think for themselves but only think what they are told by the gun haters). 

Question about the bolded sentence above: if you own a weapon and must leave it at home, how does that make you a prime target when not at home? You would be no different from someone who doesn't own a weapon in the first place.

Eggsactly. In states like this, miscreants know that the odds of you NOT carrying is like 2M:1, so everyone is a prime target.  In states (like TX) where the odds are more like 10:1 you are not carrying, makes for a very polite society. 

Carolina Q

Unbelievable. I am nearly 70 years old and have spent that entire time without a gun. Except the .22 rifle my dad gave me when I was a kid. Haven't touched it in probably 55 years though I do still own it. Don't think I've ever even held a handgun. I have no need or desire for a firearm and I would never consider carrying one around with me, concealed or otherwise. Then again, I don't own a pickup either.

I don't even know anyone who owns a gun. Except the son of a friend, and he's a state cop. And a couple of cousins (who otherwise seem normal). Even my Dad, who had to hunt for food as he was growing up, owned only a 12 ga. Which I never saw him use. If I do know anyone else, they've kept it a secret. The subject has never come up, not in all my years at work, not at parties, not in neighborhood conversations. Not ever. Except on a cooking forum. Go figure.

Can't imagine living somewhere where I felt that I had to be armed.

theyolksonyou

Carolina Q said:

Unbelievable. I am nearly 70 years old and have spent that entire time without a gun. Except the .22 rifle my dad gave me when I was a kid. Haven't touched it in probably 55 years though I do still own it. Don't think I've ever even held a handgun. I have no need or desire for a firearm and I would never consider carrying one around with me, concealed or otherwise. Then again, I don't own a pickup either.

I don't even know anyone who owns a gun. Except the son of a friend, and he's a state cop. And a couple of cousins (who otherwise seem normal). Even my Dad, who had to hunt for food as he was growing up, owned only a 12 ga. Which I never saw him use. If I do know anyone else, they've kept it a secret. The subject has never come up, not in all my years at work, not at parties, not in neighborhood conversations. Not ever. Except on a cooking forum. Go figure.

Can't imagine living somewhere where I felt that I had to be armed.

So only abnormal folk own guns. Okay.

Little Steven

Gives Road Rage a whole new meaning Mick! You may not want to drive into Canada with that puppy in there.

Eggcelsior

onedbguru said:

HofstraJet said:

onedbguru said:

WeberWho said:

I've been taught to keep any decals that has to do with guns/hunting off your vehicle. It's an open invite for thief's. Especially in places they know you can't carry 

I say the same thing for your house. While the NRA and "Secured by Smith & Wesson" sign is cute, it also tells would-be thieves you have a gun. And if you live in a state that is very restrictive in terms of concealed carry - meaning you must leave your weapon at home - you are now a prime target when not at home.

In MD, the weapon must be in a locked case in the trunk or furthest reach from anyone with no ammo in the weapon OR even the mag. Your 2A rights are reduced to a "privilege".  One law even made it illegal for a security guard or even an off-duty officer had to "transport" his weapon in the same manner.  Some of that got fixed.  Unfortunately there are too many ignorant people who live in MD that think that restricting gun access to law-abiding citizens will keep them safe.  (Ignorant because the don't think for themselves but only think what they are told by the gun haters). 

Question about the bolded sentence above: if you own a weapon and must leave it at home, how does that make you a prime target when not at home? You would be no different from someone who doesn't own a weapon in the first place.

Eggsactly. In states like this, miscreants know that the odds of you NOT carrying is like 2M:1, so everyone is a prime target.  In states (like TX) where the odds are more like 10:1 you are not carrying, makes for a very polite society. 

I wouldn't want to live in a state where I felt like I needed a gun to have a polite society. Good thing I live in the land of pleasant living!

theyolksonyou

Baltimore = Peaceful, easy feeling

Eggcelsior

theyolksonyou said:

Baltimore = Peaceful, easy feeling

Actually, yes it is. Worked there for 8 years. Media outlets outside of local news don't paint a very accurate picture of things.

JohnInCarolina

Eggcelsior said:

theyolksonyou said:

Baltimore = Peaceful, easy feeling

Actually, yes it is. Worked there for 8 years. Media outlets outside of local news don't paint a very accurate picture of things.

I watched every season of The Wire tho.  

Eggcelsior

JohnInCarolina said:

Eggcelsior said:

theyolksonyou said:

Baltimore = Peaceful, easy feeling

Actually, yes it is. Worked there for 8 years. Media outlets outside of local news don't paint a very accurate picture of things.

I watched every season of The Wire tho.  

The Wire was pretty accurate. It's just a small subset of the overall population. Made a lot of friends with that crowd since I was busy changing their dressings and checking chest tubes. GSWs are certainly no fun.

Jeremiah

Not sure how this thread went from a reponsible gun owner's glove box to a political rant regarding the 2nd amendment, so I'll add this:also thankful that I live in the south, and most importantly that I've never needed my guns. 

theyolksonyou

Jeremiah said:

Not sure how this thread went from a reponsible gun owner's glove box to a political rant regarding the 2nd amendment, so I'll add this:also thankful that I live in the south, and most importantly that I've never needed my guns. 

Especially since they disappear from your truck at night. 

GATraveller

Carolina Q said:

Unbelievable. I am nearly 70 years old and have spent that entire time without a gun. Except the .22 rifle my dad gave me when I was a kid. Haven't touched it in probably 55 years though I do still own it. Don't think I've ever even held a handgun. I have no need or desire for a firearm and I would never consider carrying one around with me, concealed or otherwise. Then again, I don't own a pickup either.

I don't even know anyone who owns a gun. Except the son of a friend, and he's a state cop. And a couple of cousins (who otherwise seem normal). Even my Dad, who had to hunt for food as he was growing up, owned only a 12 ga. Which I never saw him use. If I do know anyone else, they've kept it a secret. The subject has never come up, not in all my years at work, not at parties, not in neighborhood conversations. Not ever. Except on a cooking forum. Go figure.

Can't imagine living somewhere where I felt that I had to be armed.

Well bless your heart...... 

Eggcelsior

theyolksonyou said:

Jeremiah said:

Not sure how this thread went from a reponsible gun owner's glove box to a political rant regarding the 2nd amendment, so I'll add this:also thankful that I live in the south, and most importantly that I've never needed my guns. 

Especially since they disappear from your truck at night. 

Hahaha

Eggcelsior

Off topic a bit, but I need to get my wife a home safe for her side arm since the kids are getting older and keeping it up high won't be an option much longer.

EGGjlmh

Carolina Q said:

Unbelievable. I am nearly 70 years old and have spent that entire time without a gun. Except the .22 rifle my dad gave me when I was a kid. Haven't touched it in probably 55 years though I do still own it. Don't think I've ever even held a handgun. I have no need or desire for a firearm and I would never consider carrying one around with me, concealed or otherwise. Then again, I don't own a pickup either.

I don't even know anyone who owns a gun. Except the son of a friend, and he's a state cop. And a couple of cousins (who otherwise seem normal). Even my Dad, who had to hunt for food as he was growing up, owned only a 12 ga. Which I never saw him use. If I do know anyone else, they've kept it a secret. The subject has never come up, not in all my years at work, not at parties, not in neighborhood conversations. Not ever. Except on a cooking forum. Go figure.

Can't imagine living somewhere where I felt that I had to be armed.

Didn't realize I was such a weirdo.  Thanks for letting me know!

Jeremiah

Eggcelsior said:

theyolksonyou said:

Jeremiah said:

Not sure how this thread went from a reponsible gun owner's glove box to a political rant regarding the 2nd amendment, so I'll add this:also thankful that I live in the south, and most importantly that I've never needed my guns. 

Especially since they disappear from your truck at night. 

Hahaha

Funny guy. In all seriousness, it'll never happen again. 

RRP

Little Steven said:

 You may not want to drive into Canada with that puppy in there.

Out of total ignorance here, Steven, what are the laws in Canada about weapons in general and CC?

Eggcelsior

RRP said:

Little Steven said:

 You may not want to drive into Canada with that puppy in there.

Out of total ignorance here, Steven, what are the laws in Canada about weapons in general and CC?

You may only carry when riding a moose. Exceptions made for red and black flannel and/or a full denim ensemble when on foot.

CTMike

Carolina Q said:

I have no need or desire for a firearm and I would never consider carrying one around with me, concealed or otherwise. Then again, I don't own a pickup either. 

Can't imagine living somewhere where I felt that I had to be armed.

Dr. Petit probably felt the same way living in nice, quiet, upscale Cheshire. Sadly if he was armed, his wife and two daughters might still be alive.