WAY OT: Keeping gun in vehicle

SkySaw

Toxarch said:

SkySaw said:

Toxarch said:

So you are saying that guns are not the problem, people are the problem?

No, I am saying that guns are not the solution. They may very well be a large part of the problem.

James Craig has been a Police Officer for 36 years. He has been the Police Chief in Portland, Cincinnati, and Detroit. Craig had been anti-gun in the past. In late 2013 he urged citizens of Detroit to go buy guns to protect themselves. 
 http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/01/03/detroit-police-chief-james-craig-says-more-citizens-should-be-armed.html

Here is an article from 2014 where he says armed citizens have contributed to the 37% drop (in 1 year) in crime.
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/16/detroit-police-chief-says-armed-citizens-are-curbi/

An article from 2015 where he explained why armed citizens works as a deterrent. This is why shootings happen in "gun free zones". 
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2015/12/01/armed-citizens-deter-terrorist-attacks-in-detroit-police-chief-says/

The reason concealed handguns work is because the bad guys do not know who is armed. It works as a deterrent to thieves and murderers. They aren't going to go into an area where someone might shoot back. They have no idea if someone in that area is armed or not. Everyone there could be unarmed, they don't know. However, in a gun-free zone, everyone following the law is unarmed. It's a target rich environment where nobody will shoot back until lots of targets are hit and the Police show up 20 minutes later.

You could go with James Craig's personal opinion, or you could go with the trend in thousands of examples. Canada is a true gun-free zone compared to the US; I don't see how it's possible to have cities that are gun-free zones in a country where guns outnumber people. While violent crimes of all types are significantly lower in Canada than the US (which contradicts your supposition that target rich environments pull violent criminals), Canada does have higher levels of some types of property crimes. This suggests that concealed guns might deter the teenage kids from stealing cars and breaking into their neighbour's homes to steal cash and prescription medicines after school, but not the violent criminals. 

Toxarch

SkySaw said: Canada is a true gun-free zone compared to the US; I don't see how it's possible to have cities that are gun-free zones in a country where guns outnumber people. 

Canada is not the US. And England is a true gun-free zone compared to Canada, yet gun crimes still happen in England.
Gun-free zones in the US are the law. Aren't we talking about passing more laws to ban guns? If the criminals don't follow the laws that are in place, then how are more laws going to stop them? Only the legal people follow the law.

Spaightlabs

Anyone see anything about all the mall fights yesterday in multiple cities across the country?

Couple circumstances where folks thought firecrackers or a falling chair were mistaken for gunshots...

Couldn't happen, right?