Elections-not only sunk but removed

DoubleEgger

Obama will just appoint a Refugee Czar...

Davec433

You can't vet people who aren't in a database.

https://www.ijreview.com/2015/11/474205-the-fbi-said-we-probably-cannot-vet-syrian-refugees-but-what-the-us-attorney-general-just-said-is-a-whole-different-story/

How are they showing up in the USA if it takes two years to vet them?

http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/justinholcomb/2015/11/15/syrian-refugees-arrive-in-new-orleans-n2080928

I'll agree that assigning $$ to how much it's going to cost to bring in a bunch of refugees is pointless but how do you take the debt unless we start somewhere? The refugees coming here probably not the place to start but people will be fracking out when the banks start with a negative interest rate or the Govt taxes are deposits like they did in Cypress.

JohnInCarolina

Davec433 said:

You can't vet people who aren't in a database.

You can, and we do:

https://www.facebook.com/BryanScottHicks/posts/1187326084630475

SGH

Buffalo test.......

SGH

Yes, he has struck again....Hell hath no fury like a buffalo scorned.....

Acn

JohnInCarolina said:

pgprescott said:

He drew a line and sat back and watched them piss all over it. He drew the line, not me, not congress, him alone. He could have taken action and coalesced others to do the same,as others have done before him. He could have wiped Isis out back when they were JV team as he called them, instead he does nothing. All he cares bout is his misguided grade school domestic policies. But, these foreign issue will be domestic soon enough I guess. It is all about him and his staggering inaction. Even now he insists everything is going as planned. His sec of state suggested the Charlie hebdo massacre was justified. Leadership is not just "rhetoric" except in his case. We need someone who will make the tough decisions. We are a laughing stock. Sorry, that's what I see with my eyes wide open. Hard to believe I admit. These things don't happen in a vacuum. If you haven't seen or heard any suggestions you are willfully blind and deaf. You don't want to hear or see. The solutions all require the one thing he will not do. Everybody knows it too. 

What is that one thing?   

I suppose he could invent a time machine and go back in time and not invade Iraq.

A purely military solution isn't going to work - we tried that once and created the current mess because we have no idea how to win the peace. 

Davec433

JohnInCarolina said:

Davec433 said:

You can't vet people who aren't in a database.

You can, and we do:

https://www.facebook.com/BryanScottHicks/posts/1187326084630475

I know some dude wrote it on Facebook so it's true. I'm sure Assad has let us have access to the database where everyone's information is kept. If he hasn't how do you verify what they are telling you in these interviews? You can't.

JohnInCarolina

Davec433 said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Davec433 said:

You can't vet people who aren't in a database.

You can, and we do:

https://www.facebook.com/BryanScottHicks/posts/1187326084630475

I know some dude wrote it on Facebook so it's true. I'm sure Assad has let us have access to the database where everyone's information is kept. If he hasn't how do you verify what they are telling you in these interviews? You can't.

If you're suggesting that the only way to vet these people is to get access to files kept by Assad, then you're confused and really haven't read anything about the current process at all.

JohnInCarolina

Davec433 said:

How are they showing up in the USA if it takes two years to vet them?

http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/justinholcomb/2015/11/15/syrian-refugees-arrive-in-new-orleans-n2080928

Because the Syrian war has been going on for about four years?  It's not like we just started the process for reviewing refugees yesterday. 

DMW

JohnInCarolina said:

Davec433 said:

How are they showing up in the USA if it takes two years to vet them?

http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/justinholcomb/2015/11/15/syrian-refugees-arrive-in-new-orleans-n2080928

Because the Syrian war has been going on for about four years?  It's not like we just started the process for reviewing refugees yesterday. 

Or it was false reporting...
http://www.snopes.com/refugees-new-orleans/

Davec433

DMW said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Davec433 said:

How are they showing up in the USA if it takes two years to vet them?

http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/justinholcomb/2015/11/15/syrian-refugees-arrive-in-new-orleans-n2080928

Because the Syrian war has been going on for about four years?  It's not like we just started the process for reviewing refugees yesterday. 

Or it was false reporting...
http://www.snopes.com/refugees-new-orleans/

Oh I agree 10,000 is false the numbers 28 so far and another 20 by the end of the year.

http://m.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/st-louis-will-get-syrian-refugees-but-how-many-and/article_eaaec2f2-b3e7-575d-b1d7-a72b6a6a72b7.html?mobile_touch=true

pgprescott

Acn said:

JohnInCarolina said:

pgprescott said:

He drew a line and sat back and watched them piss all over it. He drew the line, not me, not congress, him alone. He could have taken action and coalesced others to do the same,as others have done before him. He could have wiped Isis out back when they were JV team as he called them, instead he does nothing. All he cares bout is his misguided grade school domestic policies. But, these foreign issue will be domestic soon enough I guess. It is all about him and his staggering inaction. Even now he insists everything is going as planned. His sec of state suggested the Charlie hebdo massacre was justified. Leadership is not just "rhetoric" except in his case. We need someone who will make the tough decisions. We are a laughing stock. Sorry, that's what I see with my eyes wide open. Hard to believe I admit. These things don't happen in a vacuum. If you haven't seen or heard any suggestions you are willfully blind and deaf. You don't want to hear or see. The solutions all require the one thing he will not do. Everybody knows it too. 

What is that one thing?   

I suppose he could invent a time machine and go back in time and not invade Iraq.

A purely military solution isn't going to work - we tried that once and created the current mess because we have no idea how to win the peace. 

Why not blame it on Vietnam? Isis didn't even exist. Syria is not Iraq. We gave away all our gains over there for nothing but bs political promises by a juvenile. Really dumb to think what we are facing today is a result of Bush policies. What else can we heap on that load of crap reasoning.  Again, not a vacuum. We retreated and played nice and they like us even less. Good job. No one ever said a purely military solution is the answer, but I am 100% confident the half hearted military efforts we put forth will do nothing. We have surrendered our influence and destroyed our partnerships through inaction which has left many of our friends in extreme danger and running to seek safety elsewhere, often with less friendly, to us, people. I find it really disturbing that we send people on. Half ass missions. I would rather we send them to win or just get them out 100%. No one wants to,partner with us cuz we are not a respected and reliable ally any more. Name one, one alliance, which is better today. Please, no one created this mess but the current admin. Things happen and we must act one way or another. Then there are reactions by others and consequences for our decisions and actions, or lack there of. It is not a complex idea. I suppose over the next ten years, you will blame every bad thing on the current prez? Or will it be Bushs fault still? Own it. 

JohnInCarolina

pgprescott said:

Acn said:

JohnInCarolina said:

pgprescott said:

He drew a line and sat back and watched them piss all over it. He drew the line, not me, not congress, him alone. He could have taken action and coalesced others to do the same,as others have done before him. He could have wiped Isis out back when they were JV team as he called them, instead he does nothing. All he cares bout is his misguided grade school domestic policies. But, these foreign issue will be domestic soon enough I guess. It is all about him and his staggering inaction. Even now he insists everything is going as planned. His sec of state suggested the Charlie hebdo massacre was justified. Leadership is not just "rhetoric" except in his case. We need someone who will make the tough decisions. We are a laughing stock. Sorry, that's what I see with my eyes wide open. Hard to believe I admit. These things don't happen in a vacuum. If you haven't seen or heard any suggestions you are willfully blind and deaf. You don't want to hear or see. The solutions all require the one thing he will not do. Everybody knows it too. 

What is that one thing?   

I suppose he could invent a time machine and go back in time and not invade Iraq.

A purely military solution isn't going to work - we tried that once and created the current mess because we have no idea how to win the peace. 

Why not blame it on Vietnam? Isis didn't even exist. Syria is not Iraq. We gave away all our gains over there for nothing but bs political promises by a juvenile. Really dumb to think what we are facing today is a result of Bush policies. What else can we heap on that load of crap reasoning.  Again, not a vacuum. We retreated and played nice and they like us even less. Good job. No one ever said a purely military solution is the answer, but I am 100% confident the half hearted military efforts we put forth will do nothing. We have surrendered our influence and destroyed our partnerships through inaction which has left many of our friends in extreme danger and running to seek safety elsewhere, often with less friendly, to us, people. I find it really disturbing that we send people on. Half ass missions. I would rather we send them to win or just get them out 100%. No one wants to,partner with us cuz we are not a respected and reliable ally any more. Name one, one alliance, which is better today. Please, no one created this mess but the current admin. Things happen and we must act one way or another. Then there are reactions by others and consequences for our decisions and actions, or lack there of. It is not a complex idea. I suppose over the next ten years, you will blame every bad thing on the current prez? Or will it be Bushs fault still? Own it. 

Seek therapy bro.

Durangler

I want to know what President @JohnInCarolina  would do to fix this mess. He's good at stirring the pot, posting frivolous links, leaning toward compassion, stating his guests have been there & done that.
 
So, John, move out of the shadows with your alien compadres and tell us who, in this current presidential campaign, is your hero... 
We need to fix this situation & I wonder who, in your opinion, would serve the people of this great country, the best. 
Who do you endorse, @JohnInCarolina ? Everyone wants to know... please

JohnInCarolina

Durangler said:

I want to know what President @JohnInCarolina  would do to fix this mess. He's good at stirring the pot, posting frivolous links, leaning toward compassion, stating his guests have been there & done that.
 
So, John, move out of the shadows with your alien compadres and tell us who, in this current presidential campaign, is your hero... 
We need to fix this situation & I wonder who, in your opinion, would serve the people of this great country, the best. 
Who do you endorse, @JohnInCarolina ? Everyone wants to know... please

I'm voting for Deez Nuts.

Acn

pgprescott said:

Acn said:

JohnInCarolina said:

pgprescott said:

He drew a line and sat back and watched them piss all over it. He drew the line, not me, not congress, him alone. He could have taken action and coalesced others to do the same,as others have done before him. He could have wiped Isis out back when they were JV team as he called them, instead he does nothing. All he cares bout is his misguided grade school domestic policies. But, these foreign issue will be domestic soon enough I guess. It is all about him and his staggering inaction. Even now he insists everything is going as planned. His sec of state suggested the Charlie hebdo massacre was justified. Leadership is not just "rhetoric" except in his case. We need someone who will make the tough decisions. We are a laughing stock. Sorry, that's what I see with my eyes wide open. Hard to believe I admit. These things don't happen in a vacuum. If you haven't seen or heard any suggestions you are willfully blind and deaf. You don't want to hear or see. The solutions all require the one thing he will not do. Everybody knows it too. 

What is that one thing?   

I suppose he could invent a time machine and go back in time and not invade Iraq.

A purely military solution isn't going to work - we tried that once and created the current mess because we have no idea how to win the peace. 

Why not blame it on Vietnam? Isis didn't even exist. Syria is not Iraq. We gave away all our gains over there for nothing but bs political promises by a juvenile. Really dumb to think what we are facing today is a result of Bush policies. What else can we heap on that load of crap reasoning.  Again, not a vacuum. We retreated and played nice and they like us even less. Good job. No one ever said a purely military solution is the answer, but I am 100% confident the half hearted military efforts we put forth will do nothing. We have surrendered our influence and destroyed our partnerships through inaction which has left many of our friends in extreme danger and running to seek safety elsewhere, often with less friendly, to us, people. I find it really disturbing that we send people on. Half ass missions. I would rather we send them to win or just get them out 100%. No one wants to,partner with us cuz we are not a respected and reliable ally any more. Name one, one alliance, which is better today. Please, no one created this mess but the current admin. Things happen and we must act one way or another. Then there are reactions by others and consequences for our decisions and actions, or lack there of. It is not a complex idea. I suppose over the next ten years, you will blame every bad thing on the current prez? Or will it be Bushs fault still? Own it. 

Do some reading bro - do you know what ISIS stands for?  Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.  Also known as ISIL , Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.  They initially developed a significantly amount of strength by recruiting Sunnis and Ba'athists who were elite Republican Guardsmen and leaders in the Hussein government.  Own the fact that this is Bush's baby.  Could Obama have done better? Obviously.  But with the exception of Desert Storm and Desert Shield no president has done anything productive in the region since Eisenhower assassinated the last democratically elected leader in the region.

Durangler

I'm not surprised at your response to vote for Deez Nuts, a typical elusive response to a serious question. It's just a joke to you...right? @JohnInCarolina
Your not man enough to tell this forum who you believe would serve this nation the best. But never hesitate to bash those who do. 
Why?

JohnInCarolina

Durangler said:

I'm not surprised at your response to vote for Deez Nuts, a typical elusive response to a serious question. It's just a joke to you...right? @JohnInCarolina
Your not man enough to tell this forum who you believe would serve this nation the best. But never hesitate to bash those who do. 
Why?

#your

pgprescott

Acn said:

pgprescott said:

Acn said:

JohnInCarolina said:

pgprescott said:

He drew a line and sat back and watched them piss all over it. He drew the line, not me, not congress, him alone. He could have taken action and coalesced others to do the same,as others have done before him. He could have wiped Isis out back when they were JV team as he called them, instead he does nothing. All he cares bout is his misguided grade school domestic policies. But, these foreign issue will be domestic soon enough I guess. It is all about him and his staggering inaction. Even now he insists everything is going as planned. His sec of state suggested the Charlie hebdo massacre was justified. Leadership is not just "rhetoric" except in his case. We need someone who will make the tough decisions. We are a laughing stock. Sorry, that's what I see with my eyes wide open. Hard to believe I admit. These things don't happen in a vacuum. If you haven't seen or heard any suggestions you are willfully blind and deaf. You don't want to hear or see. The solutions all require the one thing he will not do. Everybody knows it too. 

What is that one thing?   

I suppose he could invent a time machine and go back in time and not invade Iraq.

A purely military solution isn't going to work - we tried that once and created the current mess because we have no idea how to win the peace. 

Why not blame it on Vietnam? Isis didn't even exist. Syria is not Iraq. We gave away all our gains over there for nothing but bs political promises by a juvenile. Really dumb to think what we are facing today is a result of Bush policies. What else can we heap on that load of crap reasoning.  Again, not a vacuum. We retreated and played nice and they like us even less. Good job. No one ever said a purely military solution is the answer, but I am 100% confident the half hearted military efforts we put forth will do nothing. We have surrendered our influence and destroyed our partnerships through inaction which has left many of our friends in extreme danger and running to seek safety elsewhere, often with less friendly, to us, people. I find it really disturbing that we send people on. Half ass missions. I would rather we send them to win or just get them out 100%. No one wants to,partner with us cuz we are not a respected and reliable ally any more. Name one, one alliance, which is better today. Please, no one created this mess but the current admin. Things happen and we must act one way or another. Then there are reactions by others and consequences for our decisions and actions, or lack there of. It is not a complex idea. I suppose over the next ten years, you will blame every bad thing on the current prez? Or will it be Bushs fault still? Own it. 

Do some reading bro - do you know what ISIS stands for?  Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.  Also known as ISIL , Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.  They initially developed a significantly amount of strength by recruiting Sunnis and Ba'athists who were elite Republican Guardsmen and leaders in the Hussein government.  Own the fact that this is Bush's baby.  Could Obama have done better? Obviously.  But with the exception of Desert Storm and Desert Shield no president has done anything productive in the region since Eisenhower assassinated the last democratically elected leader in the region.

Hey avid reader. This happened as a direct result of big O's total retreat and withdrawal from Iraq. He took a hard fought win and made it a tragic loss. He left the people who were counting on us high and dry and they did as I said earlier, made new friends that are bad, but allowed them to live. Big O is the architect of all this mess. He managed to squander all the gains and influence in his brilliant move. They weren't there until well after he pulled us out, duh. The most important part of reading is the comprehension part!!!

JohnInCarolina

pgprescott said:

Acn said:

pgprescott said:

Acn said:

JohnInCarolina said:

pgprescott said:

He drew a line and sat back and watched them piss all over it. He drew the line, not me, not congress, him alone. He could have taken action and coalesced others to do the same,as others have done before him. He could have wiped Isis out back when they were JV team as he called them, instead he does nothing. All he cares bout is his misguided grade school domestic policies. But, these foreign issue will be domestic soon enough I guess. It is all about him and his staggering inaction. Even now he insists everything is going as planned. His sec of state suggested the Charlie hebdo massacre was justified. Leadership is not just "rhetoric" except in his case. We need someone who will make the tough decisions. We are a laughing stock. Sorry, that's what I see with my eyes wide open. Hard to believe I admit. These things don't happen in a vacuum. If you haven't seen or heard any suggestions you are willfully blind and deaf. You don't want to hear or see. The solutions all require the one thing he will not do. Everybody knows it too. 

What is that one thing?   

I suppose he could invent a time machine and go back in time and not invade Iraq.

A purely military solution isn't going to work - we tried that once and created the current mess because we have no idea how to win the peace. 

Why not blame it on Vietnam? Isis didn't even exist. Syria is not Iraq. We gave away all our gains over there for nothing but bs political promises by a juvenile. Really dumb to think what we are facing today is a result of Bush policies. What else can we heap on that load of crap reasoning.  Again, not a vacuum. We retreated and played nice and they like us even less. Good job. No one ever said a purely military solution is the answer, but I am 100% confident the half hearted military efforts we put forth will do nothing. We have surrendered our influence and destroyed our partnerships through inaction which has left many of our friends in extreme danger and running to seek safety elsewhere, often with less friendly, to us, people. I find it really disturbing that we send people on. Half ass missions. I would rather we send them to win or just get them out 100%. No one wants to,partner with us cuz we are not a respected and reliable ally any more. Name one, one alliance, which is better today. Please, no one created this mess but the current admin. Things happen and we must act one way or another. Then there are reactions by others and consequences for our decisions and actions, or lack there of. It is not a complex idea. I suppose over the next ten years, you will blame every bad thing on the current prez? Or will it be Bushs fault still? Own it. 

Do some reading bro - do you know what ISIS stands for?  Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.  Also known as ISIL , Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.  They initially developed a significantly amount of strength by recruiting Sunnis and Ba'athists who were elite Republican Guardsmen and leaders in the Hussein government.  Own the fact that this is Bush's baby.  Could Obama have done better? Obviously.  But with the exception of Desert Storm and Desert Shield no president has done anything productive in the region since Eisenhower assassinated the last democratically elected leader in the region.

Hey avid reader. This happened as a direct result of big O's total retreat and withdrawal from Iraq. He took a hard fought win and made it a tragic loss. He left the people who were counting on us high and dry and they did as I said earlier, made new friends that are bad, but allowed them to live. Big O is the architect of all this mess. He managed to squander all the gains and influence in his brilliant move. They weren't there until well after he pulled us out, duh. The most important part of reading is the comprehension part!!!

If only McCain and Palin had won, all would be so much better, amirite?!?!?!?

JohnInCarolina

Durangler said:

I'm not surprised at your response to vote for Deez Nuts, a typical elusive response to a serious question. It's just a joke to you...right? @JohnInCarolina
Your not man enough to tell this forum who you believe would serve this nation the best. But never hesitate to bash those who do. 
Why?

DoubleEgger

Sounds like JIC would make a great politician as he can't answer a simple question without smartass remarks and diversions. 

JohnInCarolina

DoubleEgger said:

Sounds like JIC would make a great politician as he can't answer a simple question without smartass remarks and diversions. 

Brother that really hurts.

Durangler

And you know your ****, @JohnInCarolina  does it stink?

I'd take any candidate over your DeezNuts candidate...  Lame response. 
Are you ashamed to note your candidate?
The GOP group I support hasn't shaken out yet.
The Democrats have narrowed the field. Hillary, Bernie, or the goof Martin. Slim, pickins, unless your committed.
DeezNuts is your choice? Still? You serious? Really? 
I think your smarter than that. You know your better than that, I know your better than that. #True (whatever that means)

nolaegghead

pgprescott said:

Acn said:

JohnInCarolina said:

pgprescott said:

He drew a line and sat back and watched them piss all over it. He drew the line, not me, not congress, him alone. He could have taken action and coalesced others to do the same,as others have done before him. He could have wiped Isis out back when they were JV team as he called them, instead he does nothing. All he cares bout is his misguided grade school domestic policies. But, these foreign issue will be domestic soon enough I guess. It is all about him and his staggering inaction. Even now he insists everything is going as planned. His sec of state suggested the Charlie hebdo massacre was justified. Leadership is not just "rhetoric" except in his case. We need someone who will make the tough decisions. We are a laughing stock. Sorry, that's what I see with my eyes wide open. Hard to believe I admit. These things don't happen in a vacuum. If you haven't seen or heard any suggestions you are willfully blind and deaf. You don't want to hear or see. The solutions all require the one thing he will not do. Everybody knows it too. 

What is that one thing?   

I suppose he could invent a time machine and go back in time and not invade Iraq.

A purely military solution isn't going to work - we tried that once and created the current mess because we have no idea how to win the peace. 

Why not blame it on Vietnam? Isis didn't even exist. Syria is not Iraq. We gave away all our gains over there for nothing but bs political promises by a juvenile. Really dumb to think what we are facing today is a result of Bush policies. What else can we heap on that load of crap reasoning.  Again, not a vacuum. We retreated and played nice and they like us even less. Good job. No one ever said a purely military solution is the answer, but I am 100% confident the half hearted military efforts we put forth will do nothing. We have surrendered our influence and destroyed our partnerships through inaction which has left many of our friends in extreme danger and running to seek safety elsewhere, often with less friendly, to us, people. I find it really disturbing that we send people on. Half ass missions. I would rather we send them to win or just get them out 100%. No one wants to,partner with us cuz we are not a respected and reliable ally any more. Name one, one alliance, which is better today. Please, no one created this mess but the current admin. Things happen and we must act one way or another. Then there are reactions by others and consequences for our decisions and actions, or lack there of. It is not a complex idea. I suppose over the next ten years, you will blame every bad thing on the current prez? Or will it be Bushs fault still? Own it. 

o. m. g.

nolaegghead

DoubleEgger said:

Sounds like JIC would make a great politician as he can't answer a simple question without smartass remarks and diversions. 

I understand where John is coming from.  You just don't argue with kids.

JohnInCarolina

Durangler said:

And you know your ****, @JohnInCarolina  does it stink?

I'd take any candidate over your DeezNuts candidate...  Lame response. 
Are you ashamed to note your candidate?
The GOP group I support hasn't shaken out yet.
The Democrats have narrowed the field. Hillary, Bernie, or the goof Martin. Slim, pickins, unless your committed.
DeezNuts is your choice? Still? You serious? Really? 
I think your smarter than that. You know your better than that, I know your better than that. #True (whatever that means)

How the f*ck are you still so confused about the difference between your and you're?  

DoubleEgger

Looks like the liberal calvary has shown up to bail out JIC

Durangler

Your ok now @JohnInCarolina
@nolaegghead is here to cover.
Fire away Cary. Toss your support to someone....
John wont...

nolaegghead

Durangler said:

And you know your ****, @JohnInCarolina  does it stink?

I'd take any candidate over your DeezNuts candidate...  Lame response. 
Are you ashamed to note your candidate?
The GOP group I support hasn't shaken out yet.
The Democrats have narrowed the field. Hillary, Bernie, or the goof Martin. Slim, pickins, unless your committed.
DeezNuts is your choice? Still? You serious? Really? 
I think your smarter than that. You know your better than that, I know your better than that. #True (whatever that means)

Umm...he's not serious.   You're beating a dead horse, man.