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RIP--Charlie Kirk

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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 21,626
    edited September 17
    Probably a good place to memorialize his views and positions on many topics.  It is what he would have wanted.  These have the clips attached with links to ensure accuracy and transparency of his views.

    https://www.advocate.com/politics/charlie-kirk-anti-lgbtq-quotes

    I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.

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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,666
    https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/09/17/charlie-kirk-jimmy-kimmel-abc-disney.html

    Jaysus
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • GrateEggspectations
    GrateEggspectations Posts: 11,514
    JohnInCarolina said:
    https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/09/17/charlie-kirk-jimmy-kimmel-abc-disney.html

    Jaysus
    Yup. Just read that too. Pretty chilling. 
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  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 19,139
    GrateEggspectations said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/09/17/charlie-kirk-jimmy-kimmel-abc-disney.html

    Jaysus
    Yup. Just read that too. Pretty chilling. 
    That slippery slope? We’ve already busted our ass and are sliding down the hill. 
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,666


    I think I cracked the code on why these guys don’t like college professors!
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,662
    When you can't justify your stance or position with sound logic you just resort to violence or chicken $hit cowardice to defend your weak a$$ views.  
    And here we are.  F' me.
    The dumbing down of this country is accelerating.  We are not remotely close to the bottom.  
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 21,626
    edited September 18
    Did nazi that coming - wait, yes I did.  Trump is bringing the end of times for the US and his jackbooted thugs can’t lick his soles fast enough.

    I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.

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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,553



    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • Canugghead
    Canugghead Posts: 13,630
    Breaking News - ABC started a new show, Jimmy Kimmel Silenced 
    canuckland
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,666
    First they came for one of the hosts of The Man Show, and I… wait, wtf is happening?!?!?
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,553
    JohnInCarolina said:
    First they came for one of the hosts of The Man Show, and I… wait, wtf is happening?!?!?

    maybe fox can bring kimmel over with an updated version of the man show ;) we need more nazis
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,549
    The First Amendment generally speaking ( but directly applies here) does not apply to the workplace , that being said it is a For Profit business. Why would a For Profit Company whether privately or publicly held want to alienate a huge potential customer base. This is why religion politics etc have no place in the workplace. If one of my Bartenders or Technicians brought this to work and cost me customers I would gladly show them the door 

    Not everything is politics but many want to make it that way 


    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 21,626
    lkapigian said:
    The First Amendment generally speaking ( but directly applies here) does not apply to the workplace , that being said it is a For Profit business. Why would a For Profit Company whether privately or publicly held want to alienate a huge potential customer base. This is why religion politics etc have no place in the workplace. If one of my Bartenders or Technicians brought this to work and cost me customers I would gladly show them the door 

    Not everything is politics but many want to make it that way 


    Problem is Trump suing every news and media organization that questions him.  ABC did the math and said better to have Trump on their side than have him suing them or threatening to pull their FCC license - that is the problem.  Direct violation of the 1st Ammendment.

    Trump even commented on ABC doing the “right” thing about Kimmel.

    I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.

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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,553
    lkapigian said:
    The First Amendment generally speaking ( but directly applies here) does not apply to the workplace , that being said it is a For Profit business. Why would a For Profit Company whether privately or publicly held want to alienate a huge potential customer base. This is why religion politics etc have no place in the workplace. If one of my Bartenders or Technicians brought this to work and cost me customers I would gladly show them the door 

    Not everything is politics but many want to make it that way 



    nexstar wants an abc merger and needs the approval of the doj and the fcc. kicking kimmel to the curve is probably the right option for that to happen in todays world. big money verse freedom of speech of one comedian has-been. the merger probably wont happen anyways......
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 15,936
    edited September 18
    I think I figured out the key to happiness

    A) Tell yourself both sides do this

    B )These comedians crossed a line by criticizing the government

    C) I wasn't paying attention, that doesn't sound right

    D) This won't effect me, I voted for him

    E) Censorship isn't bad, if they can prevent the negative stuff we'll all get along better. Censorship will heal our country


    THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,553
    Legume said:
    I think I figured out the key to happiness

    A) Tell yourself both sides do this

    B )These comedians crossed a line by criticizing the government

    C) I wasn't paying attention, that doesn't sound right

    D) This won't effect me, I voted for him

    E) Censorship isn't bad, if they can prevent the negative stuff we'll all get along better. Censorship will heal our country


    It's just money and ratings
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,549
    Legume said:
    I think I figured out the key to happiness

    A) Tell yourself both sides do this

    B )These comedians crossed a line by criticizing the government

    C) I wasn't paying attention, that doesn't sound right

    D) This won't effect me, I voted for him

    E) Censorship isn't bad, if they can prevent the negative stuff we'll all get along better. Censorship will heal our country


    I feel sad for anyone who's key to happiness has anything to do with Politics Television Censorship etc,  ( be passionate about something, cool ) It is just not that difficult to be Happy, so I choose that 
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,666
    lkapigian said:
    The First Amendment generally speaking ( but directly applies here) does not apply to the workplace , that being said it is a For Profit business. Why would a For Profit Company whether privately or publicly held want to alienate a huge potential customer base. This is why religion politics etc have no place in the workplace. If one of my Bartenders or Technicians brought this to work and cost me customers I would gladly show them the door 

    Not everything is politics but many want to make it that way 


    But clearly you can see the difference between Kimmel getting canned because ABC thought his comments would kill ratings vs. the government pressuring them to can him, right?

    While nominally both things would be “bad for business” only one of these is actually OK.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,549
    JohnInCarolina said:
    lkapigian said:
    The First Amendment generally speaking ( but directly applies here) does not apply to the workplace , that being said it is a For Profit business. Why would a For Profit Company whether privately or publicly held want to alienate a huge potential customer base. This is why religion politics etc have no place in the workplace. If one of my Bartenders or Technicians brought this to work and cost me customers I would gladly show them the door 

    Not everything is politics but many want to make it that way 


    But clearly you can see the difference between Kimmel getting canned because ABC thought his comments would kill ratings vs. the government pressuring them to can him, right?

    While nominally both things would be “bad for business” only one of these is actually OK.
    I agree , just speaking from business standpoint , and I absolutely despise the the Government in my Business  ( personal or Business ) FWIW 

    Cheers My Friend 
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,553
    JohnInCarolina said:
    lkapigian said:
    The First Amendment generally speaking ( but directly applies here) does not apply to the workplace , that being said it is a For Profit business. Why would a For Profit Company whether privately or publicly held want to alienate a huge potential customer base. This is why religion politics etc have no place in the workplace. If one of my Bartenders or Technicians brought this to work and cost me customers I would gladly show them the door 

    Not everything is politics but many want to make it that way 


    But clearly you can see the difference between Kimmel getting canned because ABC thought his comments would kill ratings vs. the government pressuring them to can him, right?

    While nominally both things would be “bad for business” only one of these is actually OK.

    just dont forget to toss disney, who owns abc, into the mix........
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,666
    fishlessman said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    lkapigian said:
    The First Amendment generally speaking ( but directly applies here) does not apply to the workplace , that being said it is a For Profit business. Why would a For Profit Company whether privately or publicly held want to alienate a huge potential customer base. This is why religion politics etc have no place in the workplace. If one of my Bartenders or Technicians brought this to work and cost me customers I would gladly show them the door 

    Not everything is politics but many want to make it that way 


    But clearly you can see the difference between Kimmel getting canned because ABC thought his comments would kill ratings vs. the government pressuring them to can him, right?

    While nominally both things would be “bad for business” only one of these is actually OK.

    just dont forget to toss disney, who owns abc, into the mix........
    Absolutely.  On the one hand, we have government pressuring companies to censor certain speech.  On the other, we have companies that ... are caving to that pressure.  Not a good look for anyone involved. 
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 15,936
    lkapigian said:
    Legume said:
    I think I figured out the key to happiness

    A) Tell yourself both sides do this

    B )These comedians crossed a line by criticizing the government

    C) I wasn't paying attention, that doesn't sound right

    D) This won't effect me, I voted for him

    E) Censorship isn't bad, if they can prevent the negative stuff we'll all get along better. Censorship will heal our country


    I feel sad for anyone who's key to happiness has anything to do with Politics Television Censorship etc,  ( be passionate about something, cool ) It is just not that difficult to be Happy, so I choose that 
    F) be an ostrich

    My son is getting married this weekend. My three kids and two grandkids are here with us. I worry for all of them and I'm sad for them starting this life with the direction this country is being taken. I guess I could just ignore it all and tell them to be happy, but that's not really what the spirit of this country is, ignorant, happy compliance. At least we don't have to worry about pronouns!
    THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,549
    edited September 18
    Legume said:
    lkapigian said:
    Legume said:
    I think I figured out the key to happiness

    A) Tell yourself both sides do this

    B )These comedians crossed a line by criticizing the government

    C) I wasn't paying attention, that doesn't sound right

    D) This won't effect me, I voted for him

    E) Censorship isn't bad, if they can prevent the negative stuff we'll all get along better. Censorship will heal our country


    I feel sad for anyone who's key to happiness has anything to do with Politics Television Censorship etc,  ( be passionate about something, cool ) It is just not that difficult to be Happy, so I choose that 
    F) be an ostrich

    My son is getting married this weekend. My three kids and two grandkids are here with us. I worry for all of them and I'm sad for them starting this life with the direction this country is being taken. I guess I could just ignore it all and tell them to be happy, but that's not really what the spirit of this country is, ignorant, happy compliance. At least we don't have to worry about pronouns!
    So you are literally saying I am just burying my head in the sand,  LoL , Choosing to being happy does not equate to ignoring things...

    Edit: I will add when I went through a divorce some 25 years ago I had an attorney tell me my "Gandhi" approach to life will get me nowhere just because I did not want to fight and insist that well sell our business , home, rentals etc, I said no

    Well, Here I am 
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,666

    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 15,936
    I'm a happy person, Larry.  My happiness isn't based on politics or television.

    What I don't understand is the degree of industrial strength cope here. I let a lot of things go, but not this. You care about your kids and want them to be happy too - that's what scares and motivates me about this country right now. I care about things that matter to me.

    Ghandi pushed for change through nonviolent protest, civil disobedience like boycotts, marches, demonstrations, rallying the populace, etc. he resisted, he just wasn't violent.

    I don't espouse violence, I'm just talking. I think your attorney had it wrong.
    THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,549
    edited September 18
    Legume said:
    I'm a happy person, Larry.  My happiness isn't based on politics or television.

    What I don't understand is the degree of industrial strength cope here. I let a lot of things go, but not this. You care about your kids and want them to be happy too - that's what scares and motivates me about this country right now. I care about things that matter to me.

    Ghandi pushed for change through nonviolent protest, civil disobedience like boycotts, marches, demonstrations, rallying the populace, etc. he resisted, he just wasn't violent.

    I don't espouse violence, I'm just talking. I think your attorney had it wrong.
    Cheers My Friend 

    I do have kids, new grandchild and I fully trust they will be OK, they say a real near death experience will change you, February 19 2009 was mine, ( motorcycle accident) 3 Months UCLA and 2 years in and out of hospital after that , having your kids and family come to your room to "say there goodbyes" before surgery was one of the hardest things I ever did , my life has never been the same ever since, anger , stress worry have never ever been back 
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,553
    fishlessman said:
    Legume said:
    I think I figured out the key to happiness

    A) Tell yourself both sides do this

    B )These comedians crossed a line by criticizing the government

    C) I wasn't paying attention, that doesn't sound right

    D) This won't effect me, I voted for him

    E) Censorship isn't bad, if they can prevent the negative stuff we'll all get along better. Censorship will heal our country


    It's just money and ratings

    $6.2 billion talks.....kimmel walks
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 21,626
    lkapigian said:
    Legume said:
    I'm a happy person, Larry.  My happiness isn't based on politics or television.

    What I don't understand is the degree of industrial strength cope here. I let a lot of things go, but not this. You care about your kids and want them to be happy too - that's what scares and motivates me about this country right now. I care about things that matter to me.

    Ghandi pushed for change through nonviolent protest, civil disobedience like boycotts, marches, demonstrations, rallying the populace, etc. he resisted, he just wasn't violent.

    I don't espouse violence, I'm just talking. I think your attorney had it wrong.
    Cheers My Friend 

    I do have kids, new grandchild and I fully trust they will be OK, they say a real near death experience will change you, February 19 2009 was mine, ( motorcycle accident) 3 Months UCLA and 2 years in and out of hospital after that , having your kids and family come to your room to "say there goodbyes" before surgery was one of the hardest things I ever did , my life has never been the same ever since, anger , stress worry have never ever been back 
    I’m thankful you took a different approach to the experience - I had a close friend go through a similar experience, let’s just say his near death experience did not lead to the same place yours did.

    I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.

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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 21,626
    Feels like March 1933 around here:


    I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.

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