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Global Warming - Right & Wrong
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I have friends in Wilmington, NC. I think some part of town is impacted every year by a near miss and they get a direct hit every few years, but I think the last big one to hit with any significant damage was in the late 2000's and still nothing like the damage you see in Florida or the gulf coast. Must be water temp or building standards or something.JohnInCarolina said:
I think if you’re going to outlaw it that means you have to believe it exists in the first place. And, well…Legume said:
Why didn't they just outlaw climate change, that's what I would do.JohnInCarolina said:
True but NC is a big state with only a relatively small portion in the target zone.Gulfcoastguy said:
You are also in the hurricane zone.JohnInCarolina said:
Your point is well made, there are plenty of natural disasters everywhere. Nevertheless, I think insurance of any kind might soon be hard to find in the Gulf states.Gulfcoastguy said:
Considering all of the fires out West(including hurricanes this year), hurricanes from Mexico to Maine, tornados and droughts in the midwest, floods every time the snow melts in the rust belt, I wonder just where the perfect remaining Eden is for Farmers? Are they going to put seaports in Oklahoma? Is the Mouse going to relocate to Kansas?JohnInCarolina said:
Plus, the state has decreed that “climate change” can’t be used as a justification for any coastal planning. So… we’ve got that going for us.
It is a bit surreal at times. We visit the beach and rent homes right on the water. They’re all on stilts and still sell for millions, even though it’s clear they’re going to be swept into the ocean sooner rather than later.THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER -
My guess is that it’s mostly geography. Storms tend to mostly blow by us than directly hit us.Legume said:
I have friends in Wilmington, NC. I think some part of town is impacted every year by a near miss and they get a direct hit every few years, but I think the last big one to hit with any significant damage was in the late 2000's and still nothing like the damage you see in Florida or the gulf coast. Must be water temp or building standards or something.JohnInCarolina said:
I think if you’re going to outlaw it that means you have to believe it exists in the first place. And, well…Legume said:
Why didn't they just outlaw climate change, that's what I would do.JohnInCarolina said:
True but NC is a big state with only a relatively small portion in the target zone.Gulfcoastguy said:
You are also in the hurricane zone.JohnInCarolina said:
Your point is well made, there are plenty of natural disasters everywhere. Nevertheless, I think insurance of any kind might soon be hard to find in the Gulf states.Gulfcoastguy said:
Considering all of the fires out West(including hurricanes this year), hurricanes from Mexico to Maine, tornados and droughts in the midwest, floods every time the snow melts in the rust belt, I wonder just where the perfect remaining Eden is for Farmers? Are they going to put seaports in Oklahoma? Is the Mouse going to relocate to Kansas?JohnInCarolina said:
Plus, the state has decreed that “climate change” can’t be used as a justification for any coastal planning. So… we’ve got that going for us.
It is a bit surreal at times. We visit the beach and rent homes right on the water. They’re all on stilts and still sell for millions, even though it’s clear they’re going to be swept into the ocean sooner rather than later."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
Except for the idiots who build on barrier islands.JohnInCarolina said:
My guess is that it’s mostly geography. Storms tend to mostly blow by us than directly hit us.Legume said:
I have friends in Wilmington, NC. I think some part of town is impacted every year by a near miss and they get a direct hit every few years, but I think the last big one to hit with any significant damage was in the late 2000's and still nothing like the damage you see in Florida or the gulf coast. Must be water temp or building standards or something.JohnInCarolina said:
I think if you’re going to outlaw it that means you have to believe it exists in the first place. And, well…Legume said:
Why didn't they just outlaw climate change, that's what I would do.JohnInCarolina said:
True but NC is a big state with only a relatively small portion in the target zone.Gulfcoastguy said:
You are also in the hurricane zone.JohnInCarolina said:
Your point is well made, there are plenty of natural disasters everywhere. Nevertheless, I think insurance of any kind might soon be hard to find in the Gulf states.Gulfcoastguy said:
Considering all of the fires out West(including hurricanes this year), hurricanes from Mexico to Maine, tornados and droughts in the midwest, floods every time the snow melts in the rust belt, I wonder just where the perfect remaining Eden is for Farmers? Are they going to put seaports in Oklahoma? Is the Mouse going to relocate to Kansas?JohnInCarolina said:
Plus, the state has decreed that “climate change” can’t be used as a justification for any coastal planning. So… we’ve got that going for us.
It is a bit surreal at times. We visit the beach and rent homes right on the water. They’re all on stilts and still sell for millions, even though it’s clear they’re going to be swept into the ocean sooner rather than later. -
Well, they'll just get high rates for being halfway in the ocean, but not dense enough to chase an insurance company away.THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
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We have bigger problems in Maine than hurricanes.....windmillsfukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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Surprising story on tonight's PBS Newshour, about the US state using the highest percentage of renewable energy; skip to 43:10 or so:
https://www.pbs.org/video/december-4-2023-pbs-newshour-full-episode-1701666001/
"First method of estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him."
- Niccolo MachiavelliOgden, UT, USA
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I think you'll enjoy this,Botch said:Surprising story on tonight's PBS Newshour, about the US state using the highest percentage of renewable energy; skip to 43:10 or so:
https://www.pbs.org/video/december-4-2023-pbs-newshour-full-episode-1701666001/
https://youtu.be/7eJKTYc_v-I?feature=shared canuckland -
I think we can safely file this one under wrong:
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
Can't fix stupid right there. And yet, the base is going full-bore into prepper mode.
Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint. -
Extremely wonky/nerdy, but I'm gonna leave this here:
https://youtu.be/N-_X42WGhqo?si=lwf1rekCmcn2GVE2
The Waveform Clips gang interview a Billiards ewetuber-turned NYC comedian-turned MS-degreed climatologist/organic chemist about climate change, carbon credits, profits vs. "common good", recyclables and renewable energy; he also brought along an engineer-turned-comedian, so there's that. The video may be interesting to climate/engineering/retired geeks like myself, but frightfully boring to most others.
Distinguished Guest/Burt Reynolds clone guy said "every molecule of every element", David equated a Computer Scientist degree with an Engineering degree, and Marquez badly mispronounces "soldering", so the WC gang gets a Minus-3 carbon credit for the video overall."First method of estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him."
- Niccolo MachiavelliOgden, UT, USA
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"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
This article is focused on climate change although it also applies to other areas."Why people still fall for fake news about climate change"
LBGE, LBGE-PTR, 22" Weber, Coleman 413GGreat Plains, USA -
Worth a look: (Edit-from Bloomberg)This was a year when the world experienced its hottest 12 months on record, when China connected more new coal plants than ever before, US oil production hit the highest level of any country in history and shipment volumes for liquified natural gas reached an all-time high. Moreover, David Fickling writes in Bloomberg Opinion, the annual United Nations climate meeting in Dubai left fossil fuel producers grinning and climate campaigners fuming. In other words, there’s been no shortage of bad climate news in 2023. But worse still, Fickling writes, is the amount of troubling information that’s been drowned out by the bigger stories. Here are three important issues that have flown below the radar.
Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint. -
The renowned Toronto snowman whisperer is one of SWMBO's siblings' S-I-L
(can't get the X post to show)
https://x.com/TorontoStar/status/1739954038358032746?s=20canuckland -
If you replace "x.com" with "twitter.com" they'll show.Canugghead said:The renowned Toronto snowman whisperer is one of SWMBO's siblings' S-I-L
(can't get the X post to show)
https://x.com/TorontoStar/status/1739954038358032746?s=20
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
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Interesting comments here regarding oil:
THE ECONOMY — “You won’t hear President Biden talking about it much, but a key record has been broken during his watch: The United States is producing more oil than any country ever has,” write WaPo’s Evan Halper and Toluse Olorunnipa.
That, of course, is helping reduce inflation. Nationwide, the average gallon of gasoline now costs $3.11, per AAA. (It’s under $3 a gallon in the battleground states of Michigan, Wisconsin and Georgia, though the prices in Arizona, Nevada and Pennsylvania are among the nation’s very highest.) And, per WaPo, “analysts project it could stay that way leading up to the presidential election, potentially assuaging the economic anxieties of swing state voters who will be crucial to Biden’s hopes of a second term.”
And yet, the issue isn’t so straightforward for Biden: “[I]t is not something the president publicly boasts about. The politics of oil are particularly tricky for Democrats, whose chances for victory in the 2024 elections could hinge on whether young, climate-conscious voters come out in big numbers. Many of those voters want to hear that Biden is doing everything in his power to keep oil in the ground.”
Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint. -
And the oil is mainly produced in states that vote red. The same for most new EV factories, battery factories, and wind mill installations.
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Yep. The EV and battery factories are mostly a direct result of the bipartisan infrastructure bill, I believe.Gulfcoastguy said:And the oil is mainly produced in states that vote red. The same for most new EV factories, battery factories, and wind mill installations.
Biden does deserve some credit for being the President of all Americans, even the ones who didn’t vote for him.
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
Check out this article from USA TODAY:Melting ice could create chaos in US weather and quickly overwhelm oceans, studies warnTHANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
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A good read on EV's and ICE cars:
Mr. Bean Was Right – and So Was Toyota
https://www.realclearenergy.org/articles/2024/02/13/mr_bean_was_right__and_so_was_toyota_1011632.html?mc_cid=f04ec6f15e
Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint. -
Frank that “news” site is one that is backed almost entirely by the oil and gas industry.lousubcap said:A good read on EV's and ICE cars:
Mr. Bean Was Right – and So Was Toyota
https://www.realclearenergy.org/articles/2024/02/13/mr_bean_was_right__and_so_was_toyota_1011632.html?mc_cid=f04ec6f15e"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
I get it but does that mean the data are flawed??
Edit: Always remember, "Where you stand is where you sit."Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint. -
I would look at the data with a good amount of skepticism. There are lies, damn lies, and statistics…lousubcap said:I get it but does that mean the data are flawed??
Edit: Always remember, "Where you stand is where you sit.""I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
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File this one under “galactically stupid”
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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