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Beware of grilling brush hazards!!!!!

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  • paqman
    paqman Posts: 4,919
    @Canugghead That’s genius!

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  • Canugghead
    Canugghead Posts: 13,622
    paqman said:
    @Canugghead That’s genius!
    Thanks, too cheap to buy so I improvise  ;)
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  • danhoo
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    More than 1,600 emergency department visits occurred as a result of wire-bristle brush injuries between 2002 and 2014 — approximately 130 per year, according to a 2016 study published in the Journal of Otolaryngology — Head & Neck Surgery. The study notes that most of these injuries involved the mouth, throat, and tonsils, with some requiring surgery.

    https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-cautions-about-health-risks-wire-bristle-grill-brushes
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  • danhoo
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    From 2006 to 2008, an estimated 5,700 grill fires on residential properties occurred annually in the United States.1,2,3 These fires resulted in an estimated average of 10 deaths, 100 injuries, and $37 million in property loss each year. This report addresses the characteristics of grill fires on residential properties reported to the National Fire Incident Reporting System (NFIRS) between 2006 and 2008

    https://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/pdf/statistics/v11i1.pdf

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  • danhoo
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    The Centers for Disease Control & Prevention estimates there are approximately 48 million cases of food poisoning each year of which grilling and picnic cases play a significant part. Dr. Bain says with grilling, most of these are caused by contamination by the “chef” and/or under cooking with improper storage. Bacteria, like salmonella, clostridium, E. coli and listeria, are commonly responsible for food poisoning.

    https://www.unitypoint.org/livewell/article.aspx?id=bbe612f7-c601-4627-8d79-306f663cef8b

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  • danhoo
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    I guess my point is don't be stoopid.
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  • abtaylor260
    abtaylor260 Posts: 242
    I guess I am throwing away my bristle brush now....
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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,652
    danhoo said:
    From 2006 to 2008, an estimated 5,700 grill fires on residential properties occurred annually in the United States.1,2,3 These fires resulted in an estimated average of 10 deaths, 100 injuries, and $37 million in property loss each year. This report addresses the characteristics of grill fires on residential properties reported to the National Fire Incident Reporting System (NFIRS) between 2006 and 2008

    https://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/pdf/statistics/v11i1.pdf

    @danhoo , In a prior life I have responded to a few house fires caused by grills.  All were unconfined and did some healthy damage.  Good reminders with all three articles.  Thanks for posting-
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,549
    Canugghead said:
    paqman said:
    @Canugghead That’s genius!
    Thanks, too cheap to buy so I improvise  ;)
    Great, now you have to worry about Copper Toxicity  B) LoL 
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 21,622
    lkapigian said:
    Canugghead said:
    paqman said:
    @Canugghead That’s genius!
    Thanks, too cheap to buy so I improvise  ;)
    Great, now you have to worry about Copper Toxicity  B) LoL 
    Nah, just plate the end in solder after it wears down to the copper.

    There is a significant overlap between the smartest bears and the dumbest humans - Park Ranger designing bear proof trash cans.

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  • Canugghead
    Canugghead Posts: 13,622
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    lkapigian said:
    Canugghead said:
    paqman said:
    @Canugghead That’s genius!
    Thanks, too cheap to buy so I improvise  ;)
    Great, now you have to worry about Copper Toxicity  B) LoL 
    Nah, just plate the end in solder after it wears down to the copper.
    No solder, the diacolouration was caused by torch heat before they were flattened by hammer 
    canuckland
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  • danhoo
    danhoo Posts: 720
    Canugghead said:
    My red neck copper pipe 360 scraper

    Before and after

    I might try making one out of an old burner tube.
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  • Canugghead
    Canugghead Posts: 13,622
    danhoo said:
    Canugghead said:
    My red neck copper pipe 360 scraper

    Before and after

    I might try making one out of an old burner tube.
    Should be great for stainless grid, I wouldn't use it on porcelain enameled grid though.
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  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,449
    Canugghead said:
    danhoo said:
    Canugghead said:
    My red neck copper pipe 360 scraper

    Before and after

    I might try making one out of an old burner tube.
    Should be great for stainless grid, I wouldn't use it on porcelain enameled grid though.
    I didn’t know that BGE or anybody else still sold those crappy porcelain enameled grids. Talk about an idea that sounded great but was crappy in performance and had to be PAMPERED! 
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 21,622
    RRP said:
    Canugghead said:
    danhoo said:
    Canugghead said:
    My red neck copper pipe 360 scraper

    Before and after

    I might try making one out of an old burner tube.
    Should be great for stainless grid, I wouldn't use it on porcelain enameled grid though.
    I didn’t know that BGE or anybody else still sold those crappy porcelain enameled grids. Talk about an idea that sounded great but was crappy in performance and had to be PAMPERED! 
    I think Weber still does.

    There is a significant overlap between the smartest bears and the dumbest humans - Park Ranger designing bear proof trash cans.

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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    RRP said:
    Canugghead said:
    danhoo said:
    Canugghead said:
    My red neck copper pipe 360 scraper

    Before and after

    I might try making one out of an old burner tube.
    Should be great for stainless grid, I wouldn't use it on porcelain enameled grid though.
    I didn’t know that BGE or anybody else still sold those crappy porcelain enameled grids. Talk about an idea that sounded great but was crappy in performance and had to be PAMPERED! 
    I think Weber still does.

    Primo kamados used to have porcelain coated cooking grids. Don't know if they still do.
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




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  • scottc454
    scottc454 Posts: 99
    danhoo said:


    More than 1,600 emergency department visits occurred as a result of wire-bristle brush injuries between 2002 and 2014 — approximately 130 per year, according to a 2016 study published in the Journal of Otolaryngology — Head & Neck Surgery. The study notes that most of these injuries involved the mouth, throat, and tonsils, with some requiring surgery.

    https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-cautions-about-health-risks-wire-bristle-grill-brushes
    That qualifies as extremely rare.  I use a quality brush and take care when using it.  I feel that is enough to mitigate the risk. A brush gets the job done. 
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  • paqman
    paqman Posts: 4,919
    scottc454 said:
    danhoo said:


    More than 1,600 emergency department visits occurred as a result of wire-bristle brush injuries between 2002 and 2014 — approximately 130 per year, according to a 2016 study published in the Journal of Otolaryngology — Head & Neck Surgery. The study notes that most of these injuries involved the mouth, throat, and tonsils, with some requiring surgery.

    https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-cautions-about-health-risks-wire-bristle-grill-brushes
    That qualifies as extremely rare.  I use a quality brush and take care when using it.  I feel that is enough to mitigate the risk. A brush gets the job done. 
    Sure but there are other, safer, ways to clean your grill! Why take the risk?  Your body your choice I guess… oh, wait 🤔

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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,646
    scottc454 said:
    danhoo said:


    More than 1,600 emergency department visits occurred as a result of wire-bristle brush injuries between 2002 and 2014 — approximately 130 per year, according to a 2016 study published in the Journal of Otolaryngology — Head & Neck Surgery. The study notes that most of these injuries involved the mouth, throat, and tonsils, with some requiring surgery.

    https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-cautions-about-health-risks-wire-bristle-grill-brushes
    That qualifies as extremely rare.  I use a quality brush and take care when using it.  I feel that is enough to mitigate the risk. A brush gets the job done. 
    Getting struck by lightning is also extremely rare, and yet most people have the good enough sense to avoid walking around outside in the middle of a thunderstorm.

    Your argument would have more weight if the brush were the *only* tool that gets the job done. As others have indicated here, it’s not.  
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  • scottc454
    scottc454 Posts: 99
    JohnInCarolina said:
    scottc454 said:
    danhoo said:


    More than 1,600 emergency department visits occurred as a result of wire-bristle brush injuries between 2002 and 2014 — approximately 130 per year, according to a 2016 study published in the Journal of Otolaryngology — Head & Neck Surgery. The study notes that most of these injuries involved the mouth, throat, and tonsils, with some requiring surgery.

    https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-cautions-about-health-risks-wire-bristle-grill-brushes
    That qualifies as extremely rare.  I use a quality brush and take care when using it.  I feel that is enough to mitigate the risk. A brush gets the job done. 
    Getting struck by lightning is also extremely rare, and yet most people have the good enough sense to avoid walking around outside in the middle of a thunderstorm.

    Your argument would have more weight if the brush were the *only* tool that gets the job done. As others have indicated here, it’s not.  

    The other tools look ineffective or time consuming. That's why I use a brush.  I would rather wipe the grill down after brushing or blow air on it if I was that concerned. Maybe I'll try the helix thing.  

    Lighting kills people.  Eating a bristle is no fun, but it's not in the same ballpark.  I am not care-free about this, though.  I use a good brush and look carefully at the grill.  I maintain that I can see good enough to mitigate the risk.  Also, the Weber triangular brush is well made and it would have to be very old and heavily used before bristles started falling off.  

    I don't know what more to say. I don't feel like I'm taking more than a tiny risk.  If I ever eat a bristle or somebody else eats a bristle from my cooking, I'll report back and change my ways. 


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  • scottc454
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    paqman said:
    scottc454 said:
    danhoo said:


    More than 1,600 emergency department visits occurred as a result of wire-bristle brush injuries between 2002 and 2014 — approximately 130 per year, according to a 2016 study published in the Journal of Otolaryngology — Head & Neck Surgery. The study notes that most of these injuries involved the mouth, throat, and tonsils, with some requiring surgery.

    https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-cautions-about-health-risks-wire-bristle-grill-brushes
    That qualifies as extremely rare.  I use a quality brush and take care when using it.  I feel that is enough to mitigate the risk. A brush gets the job done. 
    Sure but there are other, safer, ways to clean your grill! Why take the risk?  Your body your choice I guess… oh, wait 🤔
    I says I mitigated the risk :)  
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  • Canugghead
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    edited June 2022
    The_Buffalo said:
    Just so you know ....
    BGE has not carried any metal bristle brush grill cleaners for years due to this concern.  Our current grill brushes are made from Palmyra, a natural and eco-friendly fiber -
    The only caveat is not to use it on screaming hot grid in case it melts the bristles perhaps? or am I overthunking it  ;)
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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    Canugghead said:
    The_Buffalo said:
    Just so you know ....
    BGE has not carried any metal bristle brush grill cleaners for years due to this concern.  Our current grill brushes are made from Palmyra, a natural and eco-friendly fiber -
    The only caveat is not to use it on screaming hot grid in case it melts the bristles perhaps? or am I overthunking it  ;)

    Shouldn't melt (palmyra is a "woody" fiber) but it might burst into flames. 🔥🔥🔥

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  • The Cen-Tex Smoker
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    HeavyG said:
    Canugghead said:
    The_Buffalo said:
    Just so you know ....
    BGE has not carried any metal bristle brush grill cleaners for years due to this concern.  Our current grill brushes are made from Palmyra, a natural and eco-friendly fiber -
    The only caveat is not to use it on screaming hot grid in case it melts the bristles perhaps? or am I overthunking it  ;)

    Shouldn't melt (palmyra is a "woody" fiber) but it might burst into flames. 🔥🔥🔥

    I use a horsehair brush on my grill grates and wok when they are ripping hot. I usually dip in water first (thanks to whoever gave me that tip on here). It has caught on fire a few times but I just dipped in the water and kept on truckin’. 
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  • RRP
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    The Cen-Tex said:

    I use a horsehair brush on my grill grates and wok when they are ripping hot. I usually dip in water first (thanks to whoever gave me that tip on here). It has caught on fire a few times but I just dipped in the water and kept on truckin’. 
    Excuse me as I’m not very horse smart, but doesn’t horse hair stink when hot? Especially that horse hair near the butthole of said horse hair tail?  :)
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  • paqman
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    The_Buffalo said:
    Just so you know ....
    BGE has not carried any metal bristle brush grill cleaners for years due to this concern.  Our current grill brushes are made from Palmyra, a natural and eco-friendly fiber -
    The V-notch grid cleaner is the way to go IMHO.  No parts to replace, works on all grids, doubles up as a grid lifter, and charcoal/ash stirrer!

    https://biggreenegg.com/product/big-green-egg-grid-cleaner/

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  • The Cen-Tex Smoker
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    edited June 2022
    RRP said:
    The Cen-Tex said:

    I use a horsehair brush on my grill grates and wok when they are ripping hot. I usually dip in water first (thanks to whoever gave me that tip on here). It has caught on fire a few times but I just dipped in the water and kept on truckin’. 
    Excuse me as I’m not very horse smart, but doesn’t horse hair stink when hot? Especially that horse hair near the butthole of said horse hair tail?  :)
    Nah. I believe all feces is likely cleaned off before it hits the self of Home Depot lol 
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