Toyota Trucks !!  Wife and I moved from German to Japanese & I can’t imagine going back, it’s just so much easier to own.  Both ours now have over 100k ( Lexus GX460 & IS250 ) and hoping we can ride them until the Electric Vehicles mature a few more yrs. The electric truck market is super interesting . . 

ColbyLang said:

nolaegghead said:

Everyone predicted doom and gloom with the batteries and resale value when the Prius would get high miles.  Turns out they hold their value extremely well and there are 3rd party companies that keep the batteries going indefinitely.

I suspect the same with all-electric vehicles.  I predict there will be a huge non-OEM battery after-market.  All the other consumables like wheel bearings, bushings, brakes, etc are pretty much the same as ICE vehicles.

Why don’t EV’s have solar on the roof of the Vehicle to assist with charging?

I would guess what you could generate in that small space is like spitting in the wind so the cost of adding just never works out.

ColbyLang said:

nolaegghead said:

Everyone predicted doom and gloom with the batteries and resale value when the Prius would get high miles.  Turns out they hold their value extremely well and there are 3rd party companies that keep the batteries going indefinitely.

I suspect the same with all-electric vehicles.  I predict there will be a huge non-OEM battery after-market.  All the other consumables like wheel bearings, bushings, brakes, etc are pretty much the same as ICE vehicles.

Why don’t EV’s have solar on the roof of the Vehicle to assist with charging?

A couple do but that amount of square footage provides enough juice for 4 miles a day in ideal conditions. Much better investment to put the cells on your house roof or the roof of a parking canopy. My second youngest uncle put them on his barn roof neatly avoiding a decor argument with his wife.

RajunCajun said:

ColbyLang said:

TideEggHead said:

@alaskanassasin I had to double take. At first I saw the $57k sticker but the dealer mark up for “limited” availability is $10k, so it’s $68k geez.

Ahhh, the good ole ADM. Toyota swears their dealers don’t participate in that practice…..

Like I told my salesman, buyers have a way of remembering who screwed them on auto deals and the bitterness is long lasting.  How can a dealership command a 10k market adjustment and expect a buyer to return for repeat business or even recommend them to someone else.  Baddddd for business, just plain ole badddddd.  MSRP is understandable with market conditions the way they are.  

I have two dealers in town I will not deal with.  One lied to me about car availability (young and dumb on my part) and I believed them.  Got screwed on trade and purchase, and then 2 weeks later I stopped by and they had the exact spec I wanted on the lot. This was 22 years ago and I still hold a grudge.

2nd was a dealer I bought 3 cars from in 12 months.  They low balled me on trade.  GMC dealer gave me 5k more than the Toyota dealer, when I told Toyota the offer they just shrugged and said I should use the GMC dealer. It was a car I bought brand new from them, if they don't stand behind their value, then no need to deal with them.  Will never use the Toyota dealer again.

Since then (6 months ago) my wife bought a GMC Denali and GMC Canyon.  She sent 3 other people to the same GMC dealer too.  My next truck will be a GMC dually from this dealer.  Aside from the dually, these would all have been Toyota cars instead.  Funny thing, they mailed me letter a few weeks ago offering me what I wanted for the trade.  Too little, too late.

billt01 said:

a new Taco was listed for 67K

    

billt01 said:

Priced a few in Atlanta a few weeks ago

a new Taco was listed for 67K

and new Tundra 84k..hard pass

Unless a person has I don't give a sh!t money or their car literally stops working beyond reasonable repair nobody should be buying a vehicle right now of any kind. 

TEXASBGE2018 said:

billt01 said:

Priced a few in Atlanta a few weeks ago

a new Taco was listed for 67K

and new Tundra 84k..hard pass

Unless a person has I don't give a sh!t money or their car literally stops working beyond reasonable repair nobody should be buying a vehicle right now of any kind. 

I have a friend who sells them to me at MSRP.  I have done pretty well trading in a few other cars during this mess.  When I trade a car with 60,000 miles for $500 less than I bought it new, and get the new car for MSRP?  It can make sense.

RajunCajun said:

billt01 said:

Priced a few in Atlanta a few weeks ago

a new Taco was listed for 67K

and new Tundra 84k..hard pass

Must have included market adjustments.  My dealer didn't and I would never buy again from a dealer that charged a market adjustment.

This is why I sold both my Toyotas and bought 2 GMCs.  Will never buy another Toyota unless I move out of market and find a dealer who isn't a prick.

Hansm said:

This is what Libs don’t get, u don’t get rid of or reduce what works and what is necessary until u have a viable and actually functional solution.  

Added link to article

HeavyG said:

Legume said:

lentsboy007 said:

Hansm said:

This is what Libs don’t get, u don’t get rid of or reduce what works and what is necessary until u have a viable and actually functional solution.  

I think the pic came from the article below, the ‘meme facts’ didn’t.  Article is from 2018.  I have no idea of the author or the group that did the testing qualify as ‘Libs’ in your world.  They’re from Australia and oddly enough, didn’t mention politics.

https://thedriven.io/2018/12/14/diesel-charge-evs-remote-locations-greener-than-you-think/

Yep. That same pic was posted in this forum a couple of years ago.

Man… you’d think after multiple times, the libs would start to get it!

lentsboy007 said:

Hansm said:

This is what Libs don’t get, u don’t get rid of or reduce what works and what is necessary until u have a viable and actually functional solution.  

Dude, you should write for “The Onion”….that’s f*cking hilarious!