OT-New 2022 Tundra

RajunCajun

TideEggHead said:

@RajunCajun Have you ordered one?? Either way be sure to post some pictures when you get one!

Toyota doesn't take custom orders....gonna have to be patient.  Dealers are just beginning to get allocations now, whatever that means.  Dealers should begin seeing actual trucks sometime in mid to late Dec.  I do know what I want.

fishlessman

i would go with a ram, the hennessey mammoth rams look nice

billt01

2009 138K
awesome truck!!!

ColbyLang

RajunCajun said:

TideEggHead said:

@RajunCajun Have you ordered one?? Either way be sure to post some pictures when you get one!

Toyota doesn't take custom orders....gonna have to be patient.  Dealers are just beginning to get allocations now, whatever that means.  Dealers should begin seeing actual trucks sometime in mid to late Dec.  I do know what I want.

Good luck. Hopefully there aren’t some custom orders that were allowed….. If it’s anything like Fords Bronco debacle, the allocations are screwing folks that have had orders for over 18 months. I, on the other hand, benefitted from the allocation. I’ll be the third Bronco our dealership actually receives. 

alaskanassasin

I and sure you have perused the https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/trending/threads.1/  forum @ColbyLang

ColbyLang

Yep. Just jumped myself from the 12/6 build group to the 12/13 build group. 2021 VIN in hand, can’t see me going any further back

TEXASBGE2018

alaskanassasin said:

I and sure you have perused the https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/trending/threads.1/  forum @ColbyLang

I just went on that website and randomly looked at one of the threads about a 2door being sold for 150k. Claimed it was the only one in the U.S.  Well that aint true because in the last week I've seen 3 of the Two Door versions just in driving around my small Texas county. These things are gonna be as common as Jeeps within the next year or so. I feel sorry for ANYONE paying a premium for one. 

alaskanassasin

Glad I bought something to hold me over, I will be waiting for a raptor version now.

RajunCajun

I just passed on a 22 Tundra in the wrong color and bed length from a dealership that is not going to go above MSRP.  To do so at this time exemplifies morals.  Sure, some people have issues paying MSRP.  Wake up, times are not normal.  

nolaegghead

I'm gonna hold off until the electric flying truck comes out.  Flux capacitor would be a bonus as time travel would be a nice option.

ColbyLang

TEXASBGE2018 said:

alaskanassasin said:

I and sure you have perused the https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/trending/threads.1/  forum @ColbyLang

I just went on that website and randomly looked at one of the threads about a 2door being sold for 150k. Claimed it was the only one in the U.S.  Well that aint true because in the last week I've seen 3 of the Two Door versions just in driving around my small Texas county. These things are gonna be as common as Jeeps within the next year or so. I feel sorry for ANYONE paying a premium for one. 

Not trying to hijack the tundra thread….my dealer has asked me multiple times if we still wanted it. Could sell for 20k over sticker for “market adjustment”

EggNorth

Don’t understand the appeal for a bronco … I owned one in the past and the repairs was a major yearly expense, never again (yes, I know technology changes).  Finally after paying $900 to replaced a rusted gas tank , I sold it for $500 just to get rid of it.  It was under 10 years old.

saluki2007

Informative read. 

https://carbuzz.com/news/theres-going-to-be-a-lot-of-angry-toyota-tundra-buyers

TideEggHead

Sitting at the local Toyota dealer getting some maintenance done. They have 4 tundras, 5 Tacoma’s, and 5 4Runners on the lot. That’s the most I’ve seen in a year. Tundras are all 2021 and the 4Runners are 2022 year models.

Not my cup of tea on this TRD pro. 

alaskanassasin

What’s the sticker on the lime rush @TideEggHead

TideEggHead

@alaskanassasin I had to double take. At first I saw the $57k sticker but the dealer mark up for “limited” availability is $10k, so it’s $68k geez.

ColbyLang

TideEggHead said:

@alaskanassasin I had to double take. At first I saw the $57k sticker but the dealer mark up for “limited” availability is $10k, so it’s $68k geez.

Ahhh, the good ole ADM. Toyota swears their dealers don’t participate in that practice…..

alaskanassasin

That is what I thought. Ridiculous 

alaskanassasin

57 is ridiculous 

TEXASBGE2018

alaskanassasin said:

57 is ridiculous 

TRD Pros have always been way way overpriced. You could get a TRD Offroad Premium which has the exact same capability and off road features minus some crappy shocks and underbody cladding and save about $18k and then add the under plating and Better shocks aftermarket and still save $15k off the cost of buying the Pro. Never understood why anyone would buy it.

nolaegghead

Is the T(u)RD some kind of Toyota version of the Raptor or something?

Eoin

Toyota Racing Development. Looking at that SUV, it's just turned into a branding exercise now. Charging a premium like that, I hope it stays with the dealer.

RajunCajun

ColbyLang said:

TideEggHead said:

@alaskanassasin I had to double take. At first I saw the $57k sticker but the dealer mark up for “limited” availability is $10k, so it’s $68k geez.

Ahhh, the good ole ADM. Toyota swears their dealers don’t participate in that practice…..

Like I told my salesman, buyers have a way of remembering who screwed them on auto deals and the bitterness is long lasting.  How can a dealership command a 10k market adjustment and expect a buyer to return for repeat business or even recommend them to someone else.  Baddddd for business, just plain ole badddddd.  MSRP is understandable with market conditions the way they are.  

TEXASBGE2018

RajunCajun said:

ColbyLang said:

TideEggHead said:

@alaskanassasin I had to double take. At first I saw the $57k sticker but the dealer mark up for “limited” availability is $10k, so it’s $68k geez.

Ahhh, the good ole ADM. Toyota swears their dealers don’t participate in that practice…..

Like I told my salesman, buyers have a way of remembering who screwed them on auto deals and the bitterness is long lasting.  How can a dealership command a 10k market adjustment and expect a buyer to return for repeat business or even recommend them to someone else.  Baddddd for business, just plain ole badddddd.  MSRP is understandable with market conditions the way they are.  

I was in the market this time last year and went to a toyota dealer to buy a new 4runner. We agreed to a price in writing online and I left my house to drive up there and sign paperwork. The salesman assured me the car would be waiting for me washed and ready to drive away Well it was alright, driven away by another buyer. That somehow took my car right out from under me. I was pissed beyond belief. I told them to pound sand and I would be calling Toyota Corporate which I did.

So that same evening I went to the Toyota dealer that I bought my last 4runner from. They had one in stock that I had previously looked at. The salesman and I agree to a deal with a handshake and then they went and ran my credit to see if they could beat my credit union interest rate and grab paperwork. He comes back and tells me he can't sell me the vehicle for that price. That the price he told me was before taxes. BS, I had the quote we just agreed to on paper and it included taxes. They still wouldn't honor it, so I told them to pound sand and called Corporate. I went and bought a more expensive Lexus GX460 two days later. 

Most dealers don't give a crap about you. They are deliberately there to screw you any way they can.

fishlessman

RajunCajun said:

ColbyLang said:

TideEggHead said:

@alaskanassasin I had to double take. At first I saw the $57k sticker but the dealer mark up for “limited” availability is $10k, so it’s $68k geez.

Ahhh, the good ole ADM. Toyota swears their dealers don’t participate in that practice…..

Like I told my salesman, buyers have a way of remembering who screwed them on auto deals and the bitterness is long lasting.  How can a dealership command a 10k market adjustment and expect a buyer to return for repeat business or even recommend them to someone else.  Baddddd for business, just plain ole badddddd.  MSRP is understandable with market conditions the way they are.  

theres absolutely no way i would be a first time buyer with a 10k market adjustment and i would never be back. my last new truck i bought the first stop was to the prior dealer that wanted 5k down just to test drive it, i didnt test drive it

fishlessman

TEXASBGE2018 said:

RajunCajun said:

ColbyLang said:

TideEggHead said:

@alaskanassasin I had to double take. At first I saw the $57k sticker but the dealer mark up for “limited” availability is $10k, so it’s $68k geez.

Ahhh, the good ole ADM. Toyota swears their dealers don’t participate in that practice…..

Like I told my salesman, buyers have a way of remembering who screwed them on auto deals and the bitterness is long lasting.  How can a dealership command a 10k market adjustment and expect a buyer to return for repeat business or even recommend them to someone else.  Baddddd for business, just plain ole badddddd.  MSRP is understandable with market conditions the way they are.  

I was in the market this time last year and went to a toyota dealer to buy a new 4runner. We agreed to a price in writing online and I left my house to drive up there and sign paperwork. The salesman assured me the car would be waiting for me washed and ready to drive away Well it was alright, driven away by another buyer. That somehow took my car right out from under me. I was pissed beyond belief. I told them to pound sand and I would be calling Toyota Corporate which I did.

So that same evening I went to the Toyota dealer that I bought my last 4runner from. They had one in stock that I had previously looked at. The salesman and I agree to a deal with a handshake and then they went and ran my credit to see if they could beat my credit union interest rate and grab paperwork. He comes back and tells me he can't sell me the vehicle for that price. That the price he told me was before taxes. BS, I had the quote we just agreed to on paper and it included taxes. They still wouldn't honor it, so I told them to pound sand and called Corporate. I went and bought a more expensive Lexus GX460 two days later. 

Most dealers don't give a crap about you. They are deliberately there to screw you any way they can.

dealer took my car for a test drive for trade-in, then wouldnt give it back to me until the sale was complete. then told me he would call the police when i put a quarter down on the showroom car hood and threatened to gouge it. you stole my car, call the police or get my keys NOW.  MANZI DODGE HAD A WAY WITH CUSTOMERS......i hate buying vehicles

TEXASBGE2018

fishlessman said:

TEXASBGE2018 said:

RajunCajun said:

ColbyLang said:

TideEggHead said:

@alaskanassasin I had to double take. At first I saw the $57k sticker but the dealer mark up for “limited” availability is $10k, so it’s $68k geez.

Ahhh, the good ole ADM. Toyota swears their dealers don’t participate in that practice…..

Like I told my salesman, buyers have a way of remembering who screwed them on auto deals and the bitterness is long lasting.  How can a dealership command a 10k market adjustment and expect a buyer to return for repeat business or even recommend them to someone else.  Baddddd for business, just plain ole badddddd.  MSRP is understandable with market conditions the way they are.  

I was in the market this time last year and went to a toyota dealer to buy a new 4runner. We agreed to a price in writing online and I left my house to drive up there and sign paperwork. The salesman assured me the car would be waiting for me washed and ready to drive away Well it was alright, driven away by another buyer. That somehow took my car right out from under me. I was pissed beyond belief. I told them to pound sand and I would be calling Toyota Corporate which I did.

So that same evening I went to the Toyota dealer that I bought my last 4runner from. They had one in stock that I had previously looked at. The salesman and I agree to a deal with a handshake and then they went and ran my credit to see if they could beat my credit union interest rate and grab paperwork. He comes back and tells me he can't sell me the vehicle for that price. That the price he told me was before taxes. BS, I had the quote we just agreed to on paper and it included taxes. They still wouldn't honor it, so I told them to pound sand and called Corporate. I went and bought a more expensive Lexus GX460 two days later. 

Most dealers don't give a crap about you. They are deliberately there to screw you any way they can.

dealer took my car for a test drive for trade-in, then wouldnt give it back to me until the sale was complete. then told me he would call the police when i put a quarter down on the showroom car hood and threatened to gouge it. you stole my car, call the police or get my keys NOW.  MANZI DODGE HAD A WAY WITH CUSTOMERS......i hate buying vehicles

What blew me away too was that neither Toyota dealership even remotely tried to make it right. They just let me walk out of there when they could have made it right and possibly made a $48k sale.

nolaegghead

Most new car dealers are unscrupulous scum.  The only thing lower are *used*  car dealers.  Watch Tin Men and the car dealers are an order of magnitude worse.

JohnInCarolina

My senior year in high school, I was a lot attendant at a Pontiac-Cadillac-Toyota dealership.  Basically my job was to park cars, wash cars, and take money to the bank for deposits.  Along the way I just watched the dealers work.  Man, that was a real-world education.  I probably should have refused a salary.  

This was back before the internet was around so the sales guys could lie with abandon.  And they did, but it was worse than that.  I'll never forget one of the guys sleeping with this married lady, and getting her to buy three different cars from him, all between $5k-$10k above sticker price.  

By far the worst part was how they'd take the old folks to the cleaners.  Retired couple would come in, looking to trade in the caddy they'd bought 10 years earlier.  The dealers would tell them it was worth a fraction of what they could turn around and sell it for.   They even got a kick out of watching the reaction they'd get.  They'd say to me, "watch this geezer jump out of his seat when I tell him what we'll give him for the trade in!".  

And the owners were aholes, man.  The sh!t they used to ask me to do.  It was right out of a bad movie, father and son shop where the son was a total dipsh!t.  The son knew I was doing really well in school so he would just F with me, like tell me to change the sign out in front of the store in the middle of a torrential downpoor.

Then one day I came back from the bank and there were all these guys walking around in trench coats collecting keys.  Turns out the owner and his son had just been making up deals.  Fabricating sales out of whole cloth, etc.  The son was in tears as I walked out the door - "DO GOOD IN SCHOOL!" were his last words to me 

fishlessman

nolaegghead said:

Most new car dealers are unscrupulous scum.  The only thing lower are *used*  car dealers.  Watch Tin Men and the car dealers are an order of magnitude worse.

the used car dealers have changed their gimmicks up here. first up is the sales concierge, this person never even sees the used car in question but makes up all the answers. next up is the actual sales person, this person is in their early 20's, usually from south america, knows nothing except that this miserable leaky wreck you are looking at has never been in an accident and has passed their 127 point inspection even though you can see the runny paint, bondo, fluid drips etc. you cant dicker with this person and you will never talk to a superior. the price is what it is. if you can find the owner on your own you can dicker with warranty, an accessory thats on another vehicle on the lot, getting something fixed, but not the price. theres still some of those crazy old salesmen out there sticking grannys purse under the front seat, putting the radio on a religious channel a 70 year old would listen too etc but the bigger used car dealers have changed their mo. wth does the concierge actually do, they are not even on site, most i can see is they pester you if you see something online. last go around i walked away from several used vehicles i never got within a hundred feet from