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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,553
    dmchicago said:
    fishlessman said:
    dmchicago said:
    fishlessman said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    fishlessman said:
    made obama look like an idiot, making biden look like an idiot, trump well....he could do that on his own
    How is he making Biden look like an idiot?  

    putin is going to do what he wants, and it looks like hes taking the never argue with an idiot approach. just the other day he took the yes, im pulling my troops back, now he is using the peace keeping approach of invasion. whats biden doing, we will have sanctions approach, putin dont care. next up, take the flags off the soldiers invading, whose soldiers are those approach....its worked before
    SO, what should Biden be doing?

    i suppose nothing, he is good at that, do what he knows, then we can watch china do the same. wish he had some advisors in dc, a way to come up with some better ideas.........i know,  blame trump
    Next level response. Thanks.



    my only point is that biden  looks like an idiot compared to putin. maybe using the cnn blame trump response was a little lame.....
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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,662
    Getting NATO in line with sanctions is about the only play Biden has.  There is no way (and never was) that the US or NATO would commit troops into Ukraine.  That's why Putin has calculated the pain of the sanctions and the gain of controlling Ukraine and rolled in.  As pointed out in a good read provided above by @JohnInCarolina, time is the only variable.
    Now China- clearly watching and weighing the Wests' (especially the US) response with the eye on Taiwan.  US commitments to Taiwan are much stronger.  The Chinese are well aware but enhanced provoking is likely gonna happen in the near-term.  The Chinese clearly have their sights on Taiwan but the long game plays in their favor.  FWIW-
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
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  • Gulfcoastguy
    Gulfcoastguy Posts: 7,316
    Try JohnInCarolina said:
    Gulfcoastguy said:
    An evil, despicable, tyrant can also be clever and savvy. Acting like he is an idiot is underestimating him and can lead to expensive consequences.
    I haven't seen anyone here suggest Putin is an idiot, but perhaps I've missed something.  
    Try reading the first sentence also.
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,553
    lousubcap said:
    Getting NATO in line with sanctions is about the only play Biden has.  There is no way (and never was) that the US or NATO would commit troops into Ukraine.  That's why Putin has calculated the pain of the sanctions and the gain of controlling Ukraine and rolled in.  As pointed out in a good read provided above by @JohnInCarolina, time is the only variable.
    Now China- clearly watching and weighing the Wests' (especially the US) response with the eye on Taiwan.  US commitments to Taiwan are much stronger.  The Chinese are well aware but enhanced provoking is likely gonna happen in the near-term.  The Chinese clearly have their sights on Taiwan but the long game plays in their favor.  FWIW-

    i agree, but putins game adds making nato and biden look like fools. he knows exactly what he is doing
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  • dmchicago
    dmchicago Posts: 4,519
    fishlessman said:
    dmchicago said:
    fishlessman said:
    dmchicago said:
    fishlessman said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    fishlessman said:
    made obama look like an idiot, making biden look like an idiot, trump well....he could do that on his own
    How is he making Biden look like an idiot?  

    putin is going to do what he wants, and it looks like hes taking the never argue with an idiot approach. just the other day he took the yes, im pulling my troops back, now he is using the peace keeping approach of invasion. whats biden doing, we will have sanctions approach, putin dont care. next up, take the flags off the soldiers invading, whose soldiers are those approach....its worked before
    SO, what should Biden be doing?

    i suppose nothing, he is good at that, do what he knows, then we can watch china do the same. wish he had some advisors in dc, a way to come up with some better ideas.........i know,  blame trump
    Next level response. Thanks.



    my only point is that biden  looks like an idiot compared to putin. maybe using the cnn blame trump response was a little lame.....
    Yeah, it blows that we’re stuck with Biden while Russia gets Putin. 
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,665
    fishlessman said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    fishlessman said:
    made obama look like an idiot, making biden look like an idiot, trump well....he could do that on his own
    How is he making Biden look like an idiot?  

    putin is going to do what he wants, and it looks like hes taking the never argue with an idiot approach. just the other day he took the yes, im pulling my troops back, now he is using the peace keeping approach of invasion. whats biden doing, we will have sanctions approach, putin dont care. next up, take the flags off the soldiers invading, whose soldiers are those approach....its worked before
    Word salad here, Fish.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,665
    fishlessman said:
    dmchicago said:
    fishlessman said:
    dmchicago said:
    fishlessman said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    fishlessman said:
    made obama look like an idiot, making biden look like an idiot, trump well....he could do that on his own
    How is he making Biden look like an idiot?  

    putin is going to do what he wants, and it looks like hes taking the never argue with an idiot approach. just the other day he took the yes, im pulling my troops back, now he is using the peace keeping approach of invasion. whats biden doing, we will have sanctions approach, putin dont care. next up, take the flags off the soldiers invading, whose soldiers are those approach....its worked before
    SO, what should Biden be doing?

    i suppose nothing, he is good at that, do what he knows, then we can watch china do the same. wish he had some advisors in dc, a way to come up with some better ideas.........i know,  blame trump
    Next level response. Thanks.



    my only point is that biden  looks like an idiot compared to putin. maybe using the cnn blame trump response was a little lame.....
    Yeah I really don’t think you’ve made that point.  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,665
    Gulfcoastguy said:
    Try JohnInCarolina said:
    Gulfcoastguy said:
    An evil, despicable, tyrant can also be clever and savvy. Acting like he is an idiot is underestimating him and can lead to expensive consequences.
    I haven't seen anyone here suggest Putin is an idiot, but perhaps I've missed something.  
    Try reading the first sentence also.
    I did.  Nobody’s debating that point either.  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,665
    Some of the early posts in this thread… whoo boy.  They have not aged well.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,665

    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • Kayak
    Kayak Posts: 700
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Some of the early posts in this thread… whoo boy.  They have not aged well.
    Thanks for the shoutout! I think mine hold up, as they didn’t say the Russians wouldn’t invade. I took the tack that we were in danger of that happening, and that from their perspective it might seem necessary. So, prescient really. Don’t know how much of an invasion it is yet, but fingers crossed (that it doesn’t get worse).

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  • Kayak
    Kayak Posts: 700
    edited February 2022
    JohnInCarolina said:

    I think the real interpretation of their position is that they want to ignore Russia so we can get on with the warmongering against China. We’ll need all our resources to destroy them. I don’t get the right wing hate of China when all the big US companies are making money by the shipload over there.

    Bob

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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,665
    Kayak said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Some of the early posts in this thread… whoo boy.  They have not aged well.
    Thanks for the shoutout! I think mine hold up, as they didn’t say the Russians wouldn’t invade. I took the tack that we were in danger of that happening, and that from their perspective it might seem necessary. So, prescient really. Don’t know how much of an invasion it is yet, but fingers crossed (that it doesn’t get worse).
    Right, right.  Sure.  Very prescient.  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,665
    Kayak said:
    JohnInCarolina said:

    I think the real interpretation of their position is that they want to ignore Russia so we can get on with the warmongering against China. We’ll need all our resources to destroy them. I don’t get the right wing hate of China when all the big US companies are making money by the shipload over there.
    Seems clear it was the part about Ukraine being a pure client state of the US State Department that’s being referenced in that tweet.  

    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,662
    Wondering the spin when the more intense shoot 'em up gets rolling in the State Department client Ukraine 🇺🇦??  Never mind the rip thru the financial markets...and you think the current downward trend is a challenge??  Hang on.  
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,665

    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,665
    Reports of missile strikes inside Kiev.  Terrible.  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,665
    Obviously this was not about forestalling NATO membership.  Hopefully we can put that nonsense to rest.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    Just about every Western democratic country has expressed solidarity against Putin…. With the exception of the republicans who are gushing about how Putin is a strong, clever genius.  Do these people know that tens or hundreds of thousands of innocent people could needlessly die?  WTF?!
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  • Eoin
    Eoin Posts: 4,304
    I didn't think he'd do the full invasion because of the economic consequences. Putin's gambling that we'll all go soft in the end and he'll get away with it.
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,665


    We do have our fair share of useful idiots over here.
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,665

    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,662
    You can't make that stuff up.  And to think the hold he has with the base.  
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,553
    might as well take poland next....
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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    Eoin said:
    I didn't think he'd do the full invasion because of the economic consequences. Putin's gambling that we'll all go soft in the end and he'll get away with it.

    I had the same take.
    He may well be right about the sanctions not having enough teeth to do much damage. Getting most of the large Western countries to agree to the same punitive measures against Russia and Russian citizens (and not just the oligarchs) likely won't be easy as the cost to the Western economies could be quite high.
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  • Gulfcoastguy
    Gulfcoastguy Posts: 7,316
    And now Russian forces hold the cargo airport right outside Kiev. That allows them to bring in airborne forces including armor. The Ukraine had better be dispersing and hiding their government.
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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    Gulfcoastguy said:
    And now Russian forces hold the cargo airport right outside Kiev. That allows them to bring in airborne forces including armor. The Ukraine had better be dispersing and hiding their government.

    FTFY
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  • Gulfcoastguy
    Gulfcoastguy Posts: 7,316
    HeavyG said:
    Gulfcoastguy said:
    And now Russian forces hold the cargo airport right outside Kiev. That allows them to bring in airborne forces including armor. The Ukraine had better be dispersing and hiding their government.

    FTFY
    That was your concern with the post?
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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    Gulfcoastguy said:
    HeavyG said:
    Gulfcoastguy said:
    And now Russian forces hold the cargo airport right outside Kiev. That allows them to bring in airborne forces including armor. The Ukraine had better be dispersing and hiding their government.

    FTFY
    That was your concern with the post?

    Yes. Seeing the country referred to as "the Ukraine" is one of those little things that makes my eye twitch.  Just like seeing "US Navy Seals" or "irregardless" or many others. Twitch inducing. :)
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