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OT - Any masons on here? Question about tuck pointing....

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odie91
odie91 Posts: 541
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What's the best way to repair this?   It's like a front veneer of the bricks have come off.  The building was built around 1955.

  Should I:

- Take the bricks out, and replace them?   Some of the bricks are below the level of the pavement (not sure how that happened, maybe the pavement was built up later on) -- so it would  be hard to get to replace the lower bricks.   

- Hollow the damaged areas out (taking out the brick and mortar) and replace it wholly with just mortar?   The cosmetics might look off, but I'm okay with that.    Type S or Type N for this job?

- Other

Thanks in advance


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  • odie91
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  • SGH
    SGH Posts: 28,791
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    I am. Just not a brick mason. 

    Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.

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    Thought you might want the secret handshake and the location of the Holy Grail.
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  • Komokaegger
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    It looks like someone has tried patching this before. There should have been some type of expansion joint material between the asphalt and the brick. Not sure where you’re located but it appears water has got into the brick and then frozen causing it to fracture. Also you could be having movement between the asphalt and brick due to heat. It doesn’t look like you would have much brick left to work with if you tried removing them. 
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  • ewyllins
    ewyllins Posts: 461
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    thought you were pointing to the east
    O-Town, FL

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  • pgprescott
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    It is never advisable to lay brick below grade IMO. Particularly in areas of the country that experience freezing. That's toast. Removal required. I don't really think the flexible asphalt is a major factor, especially if the opposing side of the drive is bordered by soil.

    Masonry construction leaks and wicks water. It should be designed to allow the water to migrate to a VB and then downward to a flashing and weep hole system. It appears as though the water has no where to go and then froze and spalled the brick as mentioned above. You are going to need to seek on site advice I'm afraid. If this is against wood framing you may have rot issues on the back side. If it is veneered over concrete, you can repair it but it's a pain. Make sure there is flashing above grade and weep holes for the moisture?water to escape the wall cavity.

    Good Luck!
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  • northGAcock
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    This is where my mind went from the Post heading. Sorry no help on the brick side.

    https://youtu.be/tkd0b1Vm7_A
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  • lkapigian
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    My first thought----My apologies, no help on the bricks either

    https://youtu.be/4j8m8L8B7pM
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
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  • MaskedMarvel
    MaskedMarvel Posts: 3,142
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    Salting the asphalt in icy conditions can cause that damage as well. 
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  • Thatgrimguy
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    Definitely thought this was going to be a Freemason thread.
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  • pgprescott
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    MaskedMarvel said:
    Salting the asphalt in icy conditions can cause that damage as well. 
     Agreed.

    The salt is just a symptom though. It simply aides in creating the freeze thaw issue within the face brick. 
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  • SGH
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    northGAcock said:
    This is where my mind went from the Post heading. Sorry no help on the brick side.

    https://youtu.be/tkd0b1Vm7_A
    Did any of y’all notice what the lady in the crowd was wearing? Overall shorts. You can see her at about 12 seconds in. I have a keen eye for such. 

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  • nolaegghead
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    Image result for brick below grade

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    Image result for brick below grade
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  • alaskanassasin
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    Could have been caused by a sloppy weed whacker operator as well....
    South of Columbus, Ohio.


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  • ckali7
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    SGH said:
    I am. Just not a brick mason. 
    . . .
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  • MaskedMarvel
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    nolaegghead said:
    Image result for brick below grade

    My house circa 1930 has: Brick veneer
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  • Eoin
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    The brick courses at / below ground level would be engineering brick in this country. There is no point trying to save those bricks, except as a very temporary measure. Nola's schematic is good. To do the job properly, you need to cut back the asphalt and replace the damaged bricks, then reinstate the path properly.
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