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BGE gave everybody a forum free from moderation, company control, and you can talk about whatever you want. http://www.greeneggers.com
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JohnInCarolina said:“... I’ve never been a fan of policing speech in any context...”
The point I’m trying to make is speech is generally policed “for the general good”. In the vast majority of cases, it’s self policing. You’re aren’t going to tell the officer what you really think... In certain cases, the policing has to be done from the outside because frankly some folks don’t understand the concept of “time and place”.
Here’s a clip from Tombstone that helps illustrate my point.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ79nNquQ0c
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we would need rules for the sandbox
Conflict Resolution Starts in the Sandbox
The sand beckons them. One child reaches for a shovel and kneels, prepares to dig. The other takes off his shoes and swishes his bare feet back and forth. “A sand angel!” he exclaims. His whole body is in the game now, back flat, head still, arms flailing. Again and again he returns to recreate the form his body makes in the sand. Each time, more sand is kicked up into the air, his vigorous movements creating a spray in the blue sky above.
As the sand flies higher, the digging child, the neighbor caught beneath the storm, must make a choice. Sand is getting into his hair and into his carefully dug hole. But what should he do?
Here are five possibilities he might consider:
- Yell “HEY!” and forcefully shove the offender away.
- Quickly get up and leave the sandbox until the offender has finished.
- Draw a line in the sand and tell the offender never to cross the boundary.
- Threaten to destroy the offender’s project in return.
- Engage the offender in the digging project.
Depending on the child’s temperament and also based on what has worked well for him in the past, one of these options might be more appealing.
But which is the right way to handle it? The ethical choice?
The Buffalo’s Dilemma
To the adult observing, perhaps it is clear who was in the wrong and who should be the one to change his behavior or leave the sandbox. We, the adults, have created a rule, and that rule is “No throwing sand - EVER,” because let’s face it: a sobbing child with sand in the eyes is no joke!
As parents, our instinct is often to intervene immediately and not risk the possible sand-throwing war that could ensue between the two parties. We are also aware of a culturally confining unwritten book called Good Parenting, which instructs: Remind everyone of the rules and strictly enforce them at all times. The consequence of not adhering to this parenting format puts one in a bit of social danger. No one wants to be thought of as the bad parent.
Really Good Buffaloing
Courage is required for thinking outside of the box. As well, constantly intervening in potential conflicts is both exhausting and, to be honest, a thoughtless approach to child rearing. It is the dog barking at every passing stranger - regardless of whether or not he is here to burgle. If we want our children to learn how to make the ethical choice in the sandbox, we must see ourselves not as rule enforcers but as ethics mentors.
We must teach them to think critically and very quickly through a series of questions that may look something like this:
- Does the sand-throwing pose an immediate danger to oneself, the community, or the environment?
- Is the sand-throwing intentional?
- Does the sand thrower see the digger sitting there nearby?
- Is violence (shoving) necessary in order to stop the danger?
- Would stepping away to observe allow one to get a different point of view (and out of danger)?
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JohnInCarolina said:“We all agree we have tons of other places on the net to discuss those topics, why can't one place be free from them?“ - @MNEggerandStuff
Because some folks do value discussing a wide range of topics with the unique set of friends they’ve come to know through egging. What is taboo for one person may not be for another. Where do you draw the line? I understand that this is a company website and not a public forum, but I’ve never been a fan of policing speech in any context.
Personally, I don’t see any reason why things like this simply couldn’t be handled by a dedicated subforum, like what the bbq brethren has set up. Set up a kind of sandbox for hot-button topics for folks who are interested in those kind of discussions to engage in them, while allowing others to simply choose to avoid the area completely. -
JohnInCarolina said:Photo Egg said:JohnInCarolina said:Personally, I don’t see any reason why things like this simply couldn’t be handled by a dedicated subforum, like what the bbq brethren has set up. Set up a kind of sandbox for hot-button topics for folks who are interested in those kind of discussions to engage in them, while allowing others to simply choose to avoid the area completely.
There is no reason for this BGE site to host it. There are so many other private sites to do so.
I just think it's unrealistic to ask or expect a company based forum to host such a place for our side entertainment.Thank you,DarianGalveston Texas -
stlcharcoal said:BGE gave everybody a forum free from moderation, company control, and you can talk about whatever you want. http://www.greeneggers.com
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DoubleEgger said:JohnInCarolina said:“... I’ve never been a fan of policing speech in any context...”"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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stlcharcoal said:BGE gave everybody a forum free from moderation, company control, and you can talk about whatever you want. http://www.greeneggers.com"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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fishlessman said:stlcharcoal said:BGE gave everybody a forum free from moderation, company control, and you can talk about whatever you want. http://www.greeneggers.com"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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JohnInCarolina said:fishlessman said:stlcharcoal said:BGE gave everybody a forum free from moderation, company control, and you can talk about whatever you want. http://www.greeneggers.com
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Remember the guy who came on here for a while then created a new Egg forum? BGE Nest or something like that.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community [...] but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots."
-Umberto Eco
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I think Jason may really be done!Louisville, GA - 2 Large BGE's
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johnkitchens said:I think Jason may really be done!
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MaskedMarvel said:Am I done?~ John - https://www.instagram.com/hoosier_egger
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MaskedMarvel said:Am I done?"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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JohnInCarolina said:MaskedMarvel said:Am I done?Xl bge ,LG bge, two 4' crusher cone fire pits. Weber Genisis gasser and
Two rusty Weber kettles.
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My goal is to hit the 30k post count threshold then scuttle my account with a gibberish password and become a vegetarian, living a life of quiet meditation.
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nolaegghead said:My goal is to hit the 30k post count threshold then scuttle my account with a gibberish password and become a vegetarian, living a life of quiet meditation.
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So if it's banishment worthy given the new standards, does it have to be written now to warrant a banishment?
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TEXASBGE2018 said:nolaegghead said:My goal is to hit the 30k post count threshold then scuttle my account with a gibberish password and become a vegetarian, living a life of quiet meditation.______________________________________________I love lamp..
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nolaegghead said:TEXASBGE2018 said:nolaegghead said:My goal is to hit the 30k post count threshold then scuttle my account with a gibberish password and become a vegetarian, living a life of quiet meditation.
Rockwall, Tx LBGE, Minimax, 22" Blackstone, Pizza Party Bollore. Cast Iron Hoarder.
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@thetrim is the one on the resurrection missionSouth of Columbus, Ohio.
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Thank you.
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TEXASBGE2018 said:nolaegghead said:TEXASBGE2018 said:nolaegghead said:My goal is to hit the 30k post count threshold then scuttle my account with a gibberish password and become a vegetarian, living a life of quiet meditation.Xl bge ,LG bge, two 4' crusher cone fire pits. Weber Genisis gasser and
Two rusty Weber kettles.
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The Cen-Tex Smoker said:just dusted off my bbqbrethren account after a 4 year hiatus. @centexsmokerA bison’s level of aggressiveness, both physical and passive, is legendary. - NPS
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Funny... I don’t FEEEEEEEEL done...Large BGE and Medium BGE
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Ozzie_Isaac said:The Cen-Tex Smoker said:just dusted off my bbqbrethren account after a 4 year hiatus. @centexsmokerKeepin' It Weird in The ATX FBTX
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The Cen-Tex Smoker said:Ozzie_Isaac said:The Cen-Tex Smoker said:just dusted off my bbqbrethren account after a 4 year hiatus. @centexsmokerThey/Them
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