I think I’m done.

stlcharcoal · January 2019

BGE gave everybody a forum free from moderation, company control, and you can talk about whatever you want. http://www.greeneggers.com

DoubleEgger · January 2019

JohnInCarolina said:

“... I’ve never been a fan of policing speech in any context...”

Really? You drop f bombs in front of your kids? Do you drop f bombs in front of your mom and dad? I met your Dad and he’s not f bomb material. How about the Dean of your school?

The point I’m trying to make is speech is generally policed “for the general good”. In the vast majority of cases, it’s self policing. You’re aren’t going to tell the officer what you really think... In certain cases, the policing has to be done from the outside because frankly some folks don’t understand the concept of “time and place”.

Here’s a clip from Tombstone that helps illustrate my point.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ79nNquQ0c

fishlessman · January 2019

we would need rules for the sandbox

Conflict Resolution Starts in the Sandbox

The sand beckons them. One child reaches for a shovel and kneels, prepares to dig. The other takes off his shoes and swishes his bare feet back and forth. “A sand angel!” he exclaims. His whole body is in the game now, back flat, head still, arms flailing. Again and again he returns to recreate the form his body makes in the sand. Each time, more sand is kicked up into the air, his vigorous movements creating a spray in the blue sky above.

As the sand flies higher, the digging child, the neighbor caught beneath the storm, must make a choice. Sand is getting into his hair and into his carefully dug hole. But what should he do?

Here are five possibilities he might consider:

Yell “HEY!” and forcefully shove the offender away.
Quickly get up and leave the sandbox until the offender has finished.
Draw a line in the sand and tell the offender never to cross the boundary.
Threaten to destroy the offender’s project in return.
Engage the offender in the digging project.

Depending on the child’s temperament and also based on what has worked well for him in the past, one of these options might be more appealing.

But which is the right way to handle it? The ethical choice?

The Buffalo’s Dilemma

To the adult observing, perhaps it is clear who was in the wrong and who should be the one to change his behavior or leave the sandbox. We, the adults, have created a rule, and that rule is “No throwing sand - EVER,” because let’s face it: a sobbing child with sand in the eyes is no joke!

As parents, our instinct is often to intervene immediately and not risk the possible sand-throwing war that could ensue between the two parties. We are also aware of a culturally confining unwritten book called Good Parenting, which instructs: Remind everyone of the rules and strictly enforce them at all times. The consequence of not adhering to this parenting format puts one in a bit of social danger. No one wants to be thought of as the bad parent.

Really Good Buffaloing

Courage is required for thinking outside of the box. As well, constantly intervening in potential conflicts is both exhausting and, to be honest, a thoughtless approach to child rearing. It is the dog barking at every passing stranger - regardless of whether or not he is here to burgle. If we want our children to learn how to make the ethical choice in the sandbox, we must see ourselves not as rule enforcers but as ethics mentors.

We must teach them to think critically and very quickly through a series of questions that may look something like this:

Does the sand-throwing pose an immediate danger to oneself, the community, or the environment?
Is the sand-throwing intentional?
Does the sand thrower see the digger sitting there nearby?
Is violence (shoving) necessary in order to stop the danger?
Would stepping away to observe allow one to get a different point of view (and out of danger)?

Eoin · January 2019

JohnInCarolina said:

“We all agree we have tons of other places on the net to discuss those topics, why can't one place be free from them?“ - @MNEggerandStuff

Because some folks do value discussing a wide range of topics with the unique set of friends they’ve come to know through egging. What is taboo for one person may not be for another. Where do you draw the line? I understand that this is a company website and not a public forum, but I’ve never been a fan of policing speech in any context.

Personally, I don’t see any reason why things like this simply couldn’t be handled by a dedicated subforum, like what the bbq brethren has set up. Set up a kind of sandbox for hot-button topics for folks who are interested in those kind of discussions to engage in them, while allowing others to simply choose to avoid the area completely.

Most sites then keep the off topic / pub section as viewable by members only so lurkers can't see those discussions.

Photo Egg · January 2019

JohnInCarolina said:

Photo Egg said:

JohnInCarolina said:
Personally, I don’t see any reason why things like this simply couldn’t be handled by a dedicated subforum, like what the bbq brethren has set up. Set up a kind of sandbox for hot-button topics for folks who are interested in those kind of discussions to engage in them, while allowing others to simply choose to avoid the area completely.

The BBQ Brethren site is the perfect place for such a subforum. It is not a corporate site.
There is no reason for this BGE site to host it. There are so many other private sites to do so.

Respectfully Darian, I think you miss a key point, which is the opportunity to discuss topics with people you've gotten to know through egging. I certainly could join the Brethren if I wanted to, but based on what I've heard, I only know a small handful of the members there.

I do understand. It would be much more fun to discuss any topic with people you are familiar with. I do get it.
I just think it's unrealistic to ask or expect a company based forum to host such a place for our side entertainment.

fishlessman · January 2019

stlcharcoal said:

BGE gave everybody a forum free from moderation, company control, and you can talk about whatever you want. http://www.greeneggers.com

its funny, when bge took over control of that forum it was so they could clean it up and control it. they were the original egghead forum, that forum is pretty much free and clear of the shenanigans

JohnInCarolina · January 2019

DoubleEgger said:

JohnInCarolina said:

“... I’ve never been a fan of policing speech in any context...”

Really? You drop f bombs in front of your kids? Do you drop f bombs in front of your mom and dad? I met your Dad and he’s not f bomb material. How about the Dean of your school?

LMAO

JohnInCarolina · January 2019

stlcharcoal said:

BGE gave everybody a forum free from moderation, company control, and you can talk about whatever you want. http://www.greeneggers.com

That website makes me cringe every time I load it. Yikes.

JohnInCarolina · January 2019

fishlessman said:

stlcharcoal said:

BGE gave everybody a forum free from moderation, company control, and you can talk about whatever you want. http://www.greeneggers.com

its funny, when bge took over control of that forum it was so they could clean it up and control it. they were the original egghead forum, that forum is pretty much free and clear of the shenanigans

Probably because almost nobody is on it.

fishlessman · January 2019

JohnInCarolina said:

fishlessman said:

stlcharcoal said:

BGE gave everybody a forum free from moderation, company control, and you can talk about whatever you want. http://www.greeneggers.com

its funny, when bge took over control of that forum it was so they could clean it up and control it. they were the original egghead forum, that forum is pretty much free and clear of the shenanigans

Probably because almost nobody is on it.

that forum was more like this forum became

trolls, people storming off etc, the good ole days

GATraveller · January 2019

Remember the guy who came on here for a while then created a new Egg forum? BGE Nest or something like that.

johnkitchens · January 2019

I think Jason may really be done!

Legume · January 2019

johnkitchens said:

I think Jason may really be done!

He’s just trying to break Husker’s record.

hoosier_egger · January 2019

johnkitchens said:

I think Jason may really be done!

Nah

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5017260/uploads/editor/na/4dgcg3nok3jb.png

MaskedMarvel · January 2019

Am I done?

hoosier_egger · January 2019

MaskedMarvel said:

Am I done?

What's your IT?

JohnInCarolina · January 2019

MaskedMarvel said:

Am I done?

I've met you a few times now, and you look done to me. Of course, I am no one to talk about that. Just look at me.

frazzdaddy · January 2019

JohnInCarolina said:

MaskedMarvel said:

Am I done?

I've met you a few times now, and you look done to me. Of course, I am no one to talk about that. Just look at me.

You did something different with your hair...right?

nolaegghead · January 2019

My goal is to hit the 30k post count threshold then scuttle my account with a gibberish password and become a vegetarian, living a life of quiet meditation.

TEXASBGE2018 · January 2019

nolaegghead said:

My goal is to hit the 30k post count threshold then scuttle my account with a gibberish password and become a vegetarian, living a life of quiet meditation.

Well given the number of zombie threads you have resuscitated in the last 2 days you will probably get there pretty quick.

thetrim · January 2019

So if it's banishment worthy given the new standards, does it have to be written now to warrant a banishment?

nolaegghead · January 2019

TEXASBGE2018 said:

nolaegghead said:

My goal is to hit the 30k post count threshold then scuttle my account with a gibberish password and become a vegetarian, living a life of quiet meditation.

Well given the number of zombie threads you have resuscitated in the last 2 days you will probably get there pretty quick.

As usual, WRONG.

TEXASBGE2018 · January 2019

nolaegghead said:

TEXASBGE2018 said:

nolaegghead said:

My goal is to hit the 30k post count threshold then scuttle my account with a gibberish password and become a vegetarian, living a life of quiet meditation.

Well given the number of zombie threads you have resuscitated in the last 2 days you will probably get there pretty quick.

As usual, WRONG.

Sounds like you are just butt hurt that you can't make this place your personal trashrag anymore so you are bringing back old "controversial" threads to prove something. Keep it up. Dozens of us are looking forward to it.

alaskanassasin · January 2019

@thetrim is the one on the resurrection mission

thetrim · January 2019

Thank you.

frazzdaddy · January 2019

TEXASBGE2018 said:

nolaegghead said:

TEXASBGE2018 said:

nolaegghead said:

My goal is to hit the 30k post count threshold then scuttle my account with a gibberish password and become a vegetarian, living a life of quiet meditation.

Well given the number of zombie threads you have resuscitated in the last 2 days you will probably get there pretty quick.

As usual, WRONG.

Sounds like you are just butt hurt that you can't make this place your personal trashrag anymore so you are bringing back old "controversial" threads to prove something. Keep it up. Dozens of us are looking forward to it.

#factsmatter see above

Ozzie_Isaac · January 2019

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

just dusted off my bbqbrethren account after a 4 year hiatus. @centexsmoker

I finally get your name. Central Texas .... Funny, I always thought you were a certified nurse from Texas.

MaskedMarvel · January 2019

Funny... I don’t FEEEEEEEEL done...

The Cen-Tex Smoker · January 2019

Ozzie_Isaac said:

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

just dusted off my bbqbrethren account after a 4 year hiatus. @centexsmoker

I finally get your name. Central Texas .... Funny, I always thought you were a certified nurse from Texas.

Ha! Correct. This was really like my 4th attempt to sign up and I had run through all the smart names. Every business down here is “cen-Tex” something. Centex heating and air, centex roofing, Centex pool cleaning. I didn’t think I would get in again so I just threw it out there. Well damnit if that one didn’t stick. I never thought I would post anyway. I was just looking for tips and recipes so I just let it roll. Waaaaay too many posts later, here we are.

DMW · January 2019

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

just dusted off my bbqbrethren account after a 4 year hiatus. @centexsmoker

I finally get your name. Central Texas .... Funny, I always thought you were a certified nurse from Texas.

Ha! Correct. This was really like my 4th attempt to sign up and I had run through all the smart names. Every business down here is “cen-Tex” something. Centex heating and air, centex roofing, Centex pool cleaning. I didn’t think I would get in again so I just threw it out there. Well damnit if that one didn’t stick. I never thought I would post anyway. I was just looking for tips and recipes so I just let it roll. Waaaaay too many posts later, here we are.

And now you are a legend. We bow our knee.

I think I’m done.

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