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YukonRon
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I have seen some images shared on this forum of some of the most spectacular kitchen builds, ever.
I am humbly asking for some insight on building a smaller design of <150 sq ft, that will be covered with access to all utilities.
What I am looking for is what you found that works great, and what you want to add or if you could modify, what that would it be.
This will be a very long project for me. I plan on completion by Labor Day 2020.
I also plan on redoing the landscaping, again, to allow for this project.
As always, thank you in advance for any insight you wish to share, and hopefully I can host y'all one day for an evening of fun when (if) I complete the project.
These Big Green Eggs are so expensive, after the purchase. Such is life, I suppose.
I am humbly asking for some insight on building a smaller design of <150 sq ft, that will be covered with access to all utilities.
What I am looking for is what you found that works great, and what you want to add or if you could modify, what that would it be.
This will be a very long project for me. I plan on completion by Labor Day 2020.
I also plan on redoing the landscaping, again, to allow for this project.
As always, thank you in advance for any insight you wish to share, and hopefully I can host y'all one day for an evening of fun when (if) I complete the project.
These Big Green Eggs are so expensive, after the purchase. Such is life, I suppose.
"Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
XL and MM
Louisville, Kentucky
XL and MM
Louisville, Kentucky
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Ron....the fun is in the design, build and ongoing enjoyment. Having seen your spot...and knowing your landscaper....looking forward to following your design and progress. With your money and taste, I reckone a recon trip to see @SciAggie ....I am in when you are ready!Ellijay GA with a Medium & MiniMax
Well, I married me a wife, she's been trouble all my life,
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northGAcock said:Ron....the fun is in the design, build and ongoing enjoyment. Having seen your spot...and knowing your landscaper....looking forward to following your design and progress. With your money and taste, I reckone a recon trip to see @SciAggie ....I am in when you are ready!"Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
XL and MM
Louisville, Kentucky -
Hey Ron -
I just finished up a small[er] build that runs along my garage (replaced the old landscaping bed). This is likely smaller than you were envisioning, but happy to offer some insight if you see anything of interest.
DFW - 1 LGBE & Happy to Adopt More... -
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heres my spectacular setup nice to be able to sit and wave to the boats going by
start with the things you need, i need a large egg, a gasser, a big burner for boils/steaming/canning, a smaller sized blackstone, a big cutting board(plastic so i can toss it in the lake before bringing it indoors) i have all those things on the deck and it still kinda looks like this pic that weber in the back is now an herb garden, you want an herb garden in there, i roll that into the house for winter, just rolled it back out sunday
fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
NorthPilot06 said:
What appliances did you go with?"Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
XL and MM
Louisville, Kentucky -
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fishlessman said:heres my spectacular setup nice to be able to sit and wave to the boats going by
start with the things you need, i need a large egg, a gasser, a big burner for boils/steaming/canning, a smaller sized blackstone, a big cutting board(plastic so i can toss it in the lake before bringing it indoors) i have all those things on the deck and it still kinda looks like this pic that weber in the back is now an herb garden, you want an herb garden in there, i roll that into the house for winter, just rolled it back out sunday
I do want to incorporate 3 BGEs ( MM, Med, XL), a Blackstone, maybe a gasser (?), water supply, electrical, gas.. fridge, maybe an ice maker(?) Wine / drink cooler. Work spaces, cutting boards, (like the idea on hd plastic).
Getting all of this together under a roof might be an issue. I definitely wish to maximize the storage capability, as I need to get a bunch of cooking items out of the garage and kitchen.
Oddly, I am not that interested in a pizza oven, as I love what we do with the BGEs. They will be my focal point.
Thank you for providing direction..."Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
XL and MM
Louisville, Kentucky -
Thanks Ron! The storage is fairly excellent - lots of beer storage in my refrigerator.
But in terms of storage, the combo unit directly beneath the propane grill is full storage, as is the unit directly under the egg - and the access drawer leading to the p-trap for the sink is 100% storage too. The unit on the right is a trash/recycle.
The primary units that you see are a Liebherr RO 510 fridge (very impressed with the condenser on this unit in the TX heat), a DCS 30" grill with rotisserie, and a Forno Bravo Casa2G90 wood-fired oven (thanks @SciAggie). I'm happy to get info on the other units (manufacturer/model #) if you're interested.DFW - 1 LGBE & Happy to Adopt More... -
YukonRon said:NorthPilot06 said:
What appliances did you go with?
fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
fishlessman said:YukonRon said:NorthPilot06 said:
What appliances did you go with?DFW - 1 LGBE & Happy to Adopt More... -
And to your point, I incorporated electrical (4 outlets, 20A dedicated service w/ GFCI) and a cold-water line to my outdoor kitchen. Well worth the effort!DFW - 1 LGBE & Happy to Adopt More...
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NorthPilot06 said:Thanks Ron! The storage is fairly excellent - lots of beer storage in my refrigerator.
But in terms of storage, the combo unit directly beneath the propane grill is full storage, as is the unit directly under the egg - and the access drawer leading to the p-trap for the sink is 100% storage too. The unit on the right is a trash/recycle.
The primary units that you see are a Liebherr RO 510 fridge (very impressed with the condenser on this unit in the TX heat), a DCS 30" grill with rotisserie, and a Forno Bravo Casa2G90 wood-fired oven (thanks @SciAggie). I'm happy to get info on the other units (manufacturer/model #) if you're interested.
As I get closer to selecting appliances, I will reach out to you. I will need to consider 4 seasons within set up, with temp ranges of below zero to 105F+ here in Louisville.
I am thinking a small instant on water heater for the kitchen. Do you have any experience with that?"Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
XL and MM
Louisville, Kentucky -
@northGAcock @YukonRon Y'all c'mon over. we'll cook some kind of dead animal and drink something that's been fermented for a while.Coleman, Texas
Large BGE & Mini Max for the wok. A few old camp Dutch ovens and a wood fired oven. LSG 24” cabinet offset smoker. There are a few paella pans and a Patagonia cross in the barn. A curing chamber for bacterial transformation of meats...
"Bourbon slushies. Sure you can cook on the BGE without them, but why would you?"
YukonRon -
SciAggie said:@northGAcock @YukonRon Y'all c'mon over. we'll cook some kind of dead animal and drink something that's been fermented for a while."Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
XL and MM
Louisville, Kentucky -
NorthPilot06 said:fishlessman said:YukonRon said:NorthPilot06 said:
What appliances did you go with?fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
@YukonRon - if you scope this well you can eliminate any serious landscaping and no grass to mow. Of course, scoping and then getting Planning and Zoning approval (Suzy) may be a tall order. Good luck.Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
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@NorthPilot06 I hope you enjoy your WFO as much as I enjoy mine.Coleman, Texas
Large BGE & Mini Max for the wok. A few old camp Dutch ovens and a wood fired oven. LSG 24” cabinet offset smoker. There are a few paella pans and a Patagonia cross in the barn. A curing chamber for bacterial transformation of meats...
"Bourbon slushies. Sure you can cook on the BGE without them, but why would you?"
YukonRon -
lousubcap said:@YukonRon - if you scope this well you can eliminate any serious landscaping and no grass to mow. Of course, scoping and then getting Planning and Zoning approval (Suzy) may be a tall order. Good luck.
My zoning board and home CPA may have a bit of an input on that, as she absolutely is death threatening me on a daily basis about her flower garden.
But, if I can get by with at least one area not having to mow, I am all in.
Great tip Cap! Thank you.
"Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
XL and MM
Louisville, Kentucky -
Commenting so I can follow. Thinking of doing something similar. Need to do something to enjoy the 4 months of half decent weather we get here.
Looking at digging this area out, stairs down from above and a nice patio. Not hikacking, just want to see what you do so I can try to steal it.
Mt Elgin Ontario - just a Large. -
@gmac
No worries, this is going to be an open forum type dialogue, and any information shared will be beneficial to all which participate, or at least that is my goal.
Feel free to participate in any manner you please.
"Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
XL and MM
Louisville, Kentucky -
I’d try to keep it as generic as possible. By that I mean don’t overly commit to something like built in gassers etc. At some point in time, a piece of equipment is going to need replacement and you might have a hard time finding a suitable replacement of exact dimensions. When we were looking at houses, a lot of places had built in gassers, fridges etc. Most outdoor kitchens were in rough shape appliance wise. Many outdoor setups I considered to be tear outs because they were too customized to outdated equipment.
Also, give yourself some room to grow. Your tastes might change/evolve moving forward.
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@YukonRon what’s the budget? I’ve got about $78 to work with. Gonna be tight
Can’t wait to see what you end up doing. Glad to see someone is ready to pull the pin. I cant make up my mind.
Mt Elgin Ontario - just a Large. -
http://eggheadforum.com/discussion/1168392/show-us-your-cookin-spot/p1
Some great pics in that thread. Putting my XL in the corner helped kill any unusable spaces and made my L shaped kitchen flow much better.
I've since covered my grilling space. I had let all the fear of blackening the ceiling keep me from covering it. Covered is the way to go. I have 10 foot ceiling height and there is no sign of smoke damage in 2+ years.XL, Small, Mini & Mini Max Green Egg, Shirley Fab Trailer, 6 gal and 2.5 gal Cajun Fryers, BlueStar 60" Range, 48" Lonestar Grillz Santa Maria, Alto Shaam 1200s, Gozney Dome, Gateway 55g Drum -
Thatgrimguy said:http://eggheadforum.com/discussion/1168392/show-us-your-cookin-spot/p1
Some great pics in that thread. Putting my XL in the corner helped kill any unusable spaces and made my L shaped kitchen flow much better.
I've since covered my grilling space. I had let all the fear of blackening the ceiling keep me from covering it. Covered is the way to go. I have 10 foot ceiling height and there is no sign of smoke damage in 2+ years.
@Thatgrimguy
Excellent information and thank you so much for the input. I am planning a cover and may vent. I also had wanted about a 10-12ft ceiling with fans mounted in the corners and on the ceiling as well.
I really like the corner placement idea, I can see how that can impact usable space.
Appreciate it brother."Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
XL and MM
Louisville, Kentucky -
DoubleEgger said:I’d try to keep it as generic as possible. By that I mean don’t overly commit to something like built in gassers etc. At some point in time, a piece of equipment is going to need replacement and you might have a hard time finding a suitable replacement of exact dimensions. When we were looking at houses, a lot of places had built in gassers, fridges etc. Most outdoor kitchens were in rough shape appliance wise. Many outdoor setups I considered to be tear outs because they were too customized to outdated equipment.
Also, give yourself some room to grow. Your tastes might change/evolve moving forward.
Can’t wait to see your final designs
Had an architect at the house last night and he gave me a ton of pointers.
Our space here in the city is rather small, so I really do not have the room for being overly extravagant, which is good, because it would not fit the aesthetics of our old craftsman type home we are restoring.
I am trying to design to retro fit as needed and add on, but, I think it unlikely to add too much more.
Thank you for the input."Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
XL and MM
Louisville, Kentucky -
Especially since you may be tight on space, maybe reconsider the fridge and wine cooler?
i briefly looked into building an outdoor kitchen, and wanted a fridge, but the cost of a good fridge that would do well in the TX heat didn’t seem worth it.
Again, my dalliance with the idea doesn’t come close to the thought you are giving to yours.#1 LBGE December 2012 • #2 SBGE February 2013 • #3 Mini May 2013A happy BGE family in Houston, TX. -
YukonRon said:Mt Elgin Ontario - just a Large.
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@YukonRon if I recall right, wasn't last night a brisket, slushie and wine fueled evening? Thus you may want to have a do-overLouisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
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