Free $34.95 Penzey's Spice Box

caliking said:

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/annals-of-gastronomy/ceo-who-called-trump-racist-penzeys-spice-mix

Maybe hevknows what he's doing. Read the part where after his post-election email tirade, they lost 3% of customers, but online sales increased 60%, and gift box purchases doubled. 

Could be fake news. Could be slick marketing .

Whatever.....privately held company, you can make up whatever you want.  I can say my sales went up 1000% after yesterday's post for that "period".  I can define that period as whenever, comparing it to whenever.  Maybe it was the weekend after that email and it hit all the blogs.  He was pretty active with the promo's and free stuff around then.

Their store sales would be the interesting one to see--as a lot of their stores sit in affluent areas.  We have two in St. Louis and one sits in a ZIP code that voted 70% Trump.  Honestly, I'm surprised it's still there.

One thing all of us BBQ & cooking companies have to look out for with millennials is that a good portion don't cook--they eat out.  And especially for BGE, us, etc, when they do want to learn to cook, they're going with pellet smokers because it's just a knob to turn.

Damn Millenials

Good for Penzeys. Glad to see someone speak the truth. Will continue to buy more of their products. Because Trump is a narcissus, Nazis loving Republican ****! Obama is a man of class. Trump a man with a big fat white golfing ass. Love it Penzeys, keep up the good work! 
p.s. Jealous Devil the best lump out there. 

stlcharcoal said:

For the record, when it comes to ChikFilA it's NOT POLITICAL, it's RELIGIOUS.  And for all the folks that scream "free speech" like they do, it's highly hypocritical.  Their corporation never made a statement supporting or disapproving of anything when it came to marriage.  The whole thing sparked from some donations and from a Baptist convention where a Cathy family member was speaking......and he just said they stood with their religions doctrine or something of that nature.  Then the haters ran wild with that, despite the fact that ChikFilA employs gays, gives them benefits like health insurance, EAP, tuition assistance, etc.

Yeah.  Here are Dan Cathy's own words:

“we’re inviting God’s judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at him and say we know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage. And I pray God’s mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude that thinks we have the audacity to redefine what marriage is all about.”

He then followed up when there was backlash over this that he was very supportive of the family unit, provided it was the "the biblical definition of the family unit."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-leadership/post/chick-fil-a-president-dan-cathy-bites-into-gay-marriage-debate/2012/07/19/gJQACrvzvW_blog.html?utm_term=.5e11dabf2f3f

Comments around marriage are BOTH political and religious.  You can't really separate the two in the US, due to the benefits that the government gives to "married" couples.   Believing otherwise is just naive.  Even in that quote above, he's talking about the nation being judged, not the followers of his own religion.  

And there's nothing hypocritical over criticizing speech like this.  Free speech rights don't give you freedom from consequences in the public square.  Nobody's saying that the government should take away Cathy's rights to speak here.  On the contrary, it's actually quite useful when bigots expose themselves.  

As for the Sunday thing, no problem there in my view.  

EHF Community - 

I fully respect the various views and political leanings of everyone. 

I'd love for someone to describe something the President has actually DONE to me, you, or any American Citizen that has hurt them.  

No hurt feelings, emotions, or judgements - - I am looking for undeniable actions that have caused harm.    

Here is a list of accomplishments that likely helped me, you and every other American Citizen.  

1.    2.2 million new jobs created

2.    86 stock market highs

3.    4.1% unemployment – lowest in 17 years

4.    Economic growth has reached 3.3% this year

5.    $5 trillion in economic growth in 2017

6.    Consumer confidence at 17 year high

7.    African American home ownership highest ever

8.    Hundreds of job killing regulations repealed

9.    Border Patrol arrests at a 45 year low

10. NATO countries contributing more to defense

11. 16,000 manufacturing jobs added per month

12. Bad trade deals canceled

13. Respect for America around the world heightened (we have a backbone again)

14. ISIS decimated and driven out of Iraq

15. China cooperating with the US on North Korea sanctions

16. Taxes lowered for businesses and individuals

17. Military strengthened and rebuilt

18. Veterans protected from unaccountable workers

19. Cabinet members picked with real world experience

20. 80 bill signed – more than any president in 1st year

Teefus said:

JohnInCarolina said:

SGH said:

GATraveller said:

What type of lunatic would boycott Chick-fil-A?? 

Agree 100%. They are a good, God fearing, Christian corporation that stands up for what is morally right. 

Yeah. Unless you’re gay.

They could care less if you're gay. They have never come out as anti gay. They came out as pro traditional marriage. It was the gay mafia that immediately pounced with the whole "you're either with us or against us" BS. I have no time for that crap.

“I’m not anti-gay, I’m just pro-anti-gay marriage!  Yeah... that’s it, that’s the ticket!”

JohnInCarolina said:

stlcharcoal said:

For the record, when it comes to ChikFilA it's NOT POLITICAL, it's RELIGIOUS.  And for all the folks that scream "free speech" like they do, it's highly hypocritical.  Their corporation never made a statement supporting or disapproving of anything when it came to marriage.  The whole thing sparked from some donations and from a Baptist convention where a Cathy family member was speaking......and he just said they stood with their religions doctrine or something of that nature.  Then the haters ran wild with that, despite the fact that ChikFilA employs gays, gives them benefits like health insurance, EAP, tuition assistance, etc.

Yeah.  Here are Dan Cathy's own words:

“we’re inviting God’s judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at him and say we know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage. And I pray God’s mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude that thinks we have the audacity to redefine what marriage is all about.”

He then followed up when there was backlash over this that he was very supportive of the family unit, provided it was the "the biblical definition of the family unit."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-leadership/post/chick-fil-a-president-dan-cathy-bites-into-gay-marriage-debate/2012/07/19/gJQACrvzvW_blog.html?utm_term=.5e11dabf2f3f

Comments around marriage are BOTH political and religious.  You can't really separate the two in the US, due to the benefits that the government gives to "married" couples.   Believing otherwise is just naive.  Even in that quote above, he's talking about the nation being judged, not the followers of his own religion.  

And there's nothing hypocritical over criticizing speech like this.  Free speech rights don't give you freedom from consequences in the public square.  Nobody's saying that the government should take away Cathy's rights to speak here.  On the contrary, it's actually quite useful when bigots expose themselves.  

As for the Sunday thing, no problem there in my view.  

Depends on how the person wants to define "marriage".  For my religion, "marriage" is a sacrament first and foremost, then the government also has a definition of it.  Gotta take those statements understand the doctrine of that person's religion...........and in that setting--a Baptist convention--he was speaking to or on behalf of the Baptists.

Yes his statement could be inflammatory, but again, look where he was.  He would have gotten boo'd off the stage if he said anything else.  And he wasn't saying it on behalf of the corporation, he was saying it on his behalf.  He didn't say it at a CFA convention, at a restaurant, or anything else.  If his last name wasn't Cathy, no one would have ever heard or cared outside of that convention.  It's not like Bill who uses the company catalog and email system as his political pulpit.

In any case, there are thousands of people that work for that corporation and their franchises who probably don't agree with that statement.  They rely on that job to feed their family, pay for school, and pay for their health insurance.  So, boycotting the company just hurts them.

It doesn't hurt the Cathy family either.  In fact, I remember the day when the BUYcott happened--it was about 5 1/2 years ago and I was driving my wife to the hospital as she was in labor with our 3rd child.  The line into the CFA next to the hospital was backed up around the parking lot, out onto the street, and down at least a block.  The cops were out directing traffic and luckily we made it through all the traffic in time!!

JohnInCarolina said:

stlcharcoal said:

For the record, when it comes to ChikFilA it's NOT POLITICAL, it's RELIGIOUS.  And for all the folks that scream "free speech" like they do, it's highly hypocritical.  Their corporation never made a statement supporting or disapproving of anything when it came to marriage.  The whole thing sparked from some donations and from a Baptist convention where a Cathy family member was speaking......and he just said they stood with their religions doctrine or something of that nature.  Then the haters ran wild with that, despite the fact that ChikFilA employs gays, gives them benefits like health insurance, EAP, tuition assistance, etc.

Yeah.  Here are Dan Cathy's own words:

“we’re inviting God’s judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at him and say we know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage. And I pray God’s mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude that thinks we have the audacity to redefine what marriage is all about.”

He then followed up when there was backlash over this that he was very supportive of the family unit, provided it was the "the biblical definition of the family unit."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-leadership/post/chick-fil-a-president-dan-cathy-bites-into-gay-marriage-debate/2012/07/19/gJQACrvzvW_blog.html?utm_term=.5e11dabf2f3f

Comments around marriage are BOTH political and religious.  You can't really separate the two in the US, due to the benefits that the government gives to "married" couples.   Believing otherwise is just naive.  Even in that quote above, he's talking about the nation being judged, not the followers of his own religion.  

And there's nothing hypocritical over criticizing speech like this.  Free speech rights don't give you freedom from consequences in the public square.  Nobody's saying that the government should take away Cathy's rights to speak here.  On the contrary, it's actually quite useful when bigots expose themselves.  

As for the Sunday thing, no problem there in my view.  

It was Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve

stlcharcoal said:

JohnInCarolina said:

stlcharcoal said:

For the record, when it comes to ChikFilA it's NOT POLITICAL, it's RELIGIOUS.  And for all the folks that scream "free speech" like they do, it's highly hypocritical.  Their corporation never made a statement supporting or disapproving of anything when it came to marriage.  The whole thing sparked from some donations and from a Baptist convention where a Cathy family member was speaking......and he just said they stood with their religions doctrine or something of that nature.  Then the haters ran wild with that, despite the fact that ChikFilA employs gays, gives them benefits like health insurance, EAP, tuition assistance, etc.

Yeah.  Here are Dan Cathy's own words:

“we’re inviting God’s judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at him and say we know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage. And I pray God’s mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude that thinks we have the audacity to redefine what marriage is all about.”

He then followed up when there was backlash over this that he was very supportive of the family unit, provided it was the "the biblical definition of the family unit."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-leadership/post/chick-fil-a-president-dan-cathy-bites-into-gay-marriage-debate/2012/07/19/gJQACrvzvW_blog.html?utm_term=.5e11dabf2f3f

Comments around marriage are BOTH political and religious.  You can't really separate the two in the US, due to the benefits that the government gives to "married" couples.   Believing otherwise is just naive.  Even in that quote above, he's talking about the nation being judged, not the followers of his own religion.  

And there's nothing hypocritical over criticizing speech like this.  Free speech rights don't give you freedom from consequences in the public square.  Nobody's saying that the government should take away Cathy's rights to speak here.  On the contrary, it's actually quite useful when bigots expose themselves.  

As for the Sunday thing, no problem there in my view.  

Depends on how the person wants to define "marriage".  For my religion, "marriage" is a sacrament first and foremost, then the government also has a definition of it.  Gotta take those statements understand the doctrine of that person's religion...........and in that setting--a Baptist convention--he was speaking to or on behalf of the Baptists.

Yes his statement could be inflammatory, but again, look where he was.  He would have gotten boo'd off the stage if he said anything else.  And he wasn't saying it on behalf of the corporation, he was saying it on his behalf.  He didn't say it at a CFA convention, at a restaurant, or anything else.  If his last name wasn't Cathy, no one would have ever heard or cared outside of that convention.  It's not like Bill who uses the company catalog and email system as his political pulpit.

The comments I quoted were made on a radio show.  And he referred to the nation being judged.  Given that he’s the CEO of the company, they were pretty stupid comments to make.

What Penzey is doing may be increasing sales, I don't know. The My Pillow guy says his comments are not hurting him. Years ago someone sent me a pic of a State Farm agent's sign in Mandeville, Louisiana. On top of the State Farm sign was another sign that said "A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders." Supposedly, business increased. Of course, stating your opinion did not work out so well for The Dixie Chicks.

Spices are free, right?