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Sanctions

bgebrent
bgebrent Posts: 19,636
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Sanctions.  
Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 19,166
    Might be in order for your liquor intake. 
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  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    DoubleEgger said:
    Might be in order for your liquor intake. 
    Sober brother double.  Friday night platform.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    Sanctions against N. Korea.  Finally meaningful moves.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
    Ut oh! I may need sanctions. Nighty night. 
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  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    pgprescott said:
    Ut oh! I may need sanctions. Nighty night. 
     Gnight Pete.  Sleep well.  
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,765
    Sanctions on Friday night- the opportunities are wide-open.  The actual , non-existant.  Besides other than SWMBO with holding romper room activities when did sanctions ever achieve their targeted results?  ;)
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
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  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 19,166
    bgebrent said:
    DoubleEgger said:
    Might be in order for your liquor intake. 
    Sober brother double.  Friday night platform.
    Give it a few hours...
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  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    lousubcap said:
    Sanctions on Friday night- the opportunities are wide-open.  The actual , non-existant.  Besides other than SWMBO with holding romper room activities when did sanctions ever achieve their targeted results?  ;)
    Why I posted my friend.  The NK sanctions are huge.  Thought some of the intelligentsia would chime in.  Friday night right?
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • paqman
    paqman Posts: 4,923
    Would you eat that?



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  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    paqman said:
    The above post was slightly off topic.  I apologize for that.  This is more appropriate.


    The appropriateness of your post is quintessential.  
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    Just talked to Ron.  He is stuck in the lab.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,765
    We have been down this road for at least two decades.  Sanctions for NK will never work unless the Chinese are engaged.  They hold the keys to the nut-tightening screws.  If they want to dial it up then there is a chance.  But if it is all talk and no action then nothing will change.   Great theater for sure.  
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
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  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    lousubcap said:
    We have been down this road for at least two decades.  Sanctions for NK will never work unless the Chinese are engaged.  They hold the keys to the nut-tightening screws.  If they want to dial it up then there is a chance.  But if it is all talk and no action then nothing will change.   Great theater for sure.  
    You're right Cap.  This time the Chinese banks are supposed to be in.  Trade supposedly suspended.   If China is truly on board, it will be a great coup for President Trump.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    Friday night has become so benign.  @nolaegghead.  A little help? ;)
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    bgebrent said:
    lousubcap said:
    Sanctions on Friday night- the opportunities are wide-open.  The actual , non-existant.  Besides other than SWMBO with holding romper room activities when did sanctions ever achieve their targeted results?  ;)
    Why I posted my friend.  The NK sanctions are huge.  Thought some of the intelligentsia would chime in.  Friday night right?
    I'm with @lousubcap - historically, sanctions rarely prove to be effective.

    The DPRK has existed as it has for so long because China and Russia continue to want the DPRK to be a thorn in our side so they will continue to support it. 

    Perhaps China will actually tighten some screws a bit to send Kim a message that perhaps he should dial it back a bit.

    We'll see what happens.
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




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  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    HeavyG said:
    bgebrent said:
    lousubcap said:
    Sanctions on Friday night- the opportunities are wide-open.  The actual , non-existant.  Besides other than SWMBO with holding romper room activities when did sanctions ever achieve their targeted results?  ;)
    Why I posted my friend.  The NK sanctions are huge.  Thought some of the intelligentsia would chime in.  Friday night right?
    I'm with @lousubcap - historically, sanctions rarely prove to be effective.

    The DPRK has existed as it has for so long because China and Russia continue to want the DPRK to be a thorn in our side so they will continue to support it. 

    Perhaps China will actually tighten some screws a bit to send Kim a message that perhaps he should dial it back a bit.

    We'll see what happens.
    Glad you chimed in.  As you state, China's role is key.  Early information is positive with respect to trade and banking.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    @JohninCarolina.  President doing the right thing.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • SGH
    SGH Posts: 28,988
    bgebrent said:
    Friday night has become so benign.  @nolaegghead.  A little help? ;)
    It's sort of a shame that you didn't ask me for help brother Brent. I haven't taken my meds today. And as such, I could really show the fukk out. However I will slink quietly away into the night and wait for the Hippy........... 

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  • Hans61
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    lousubcap said:
    We have been down this road for at least two decades.  Sanctions for NK will never work unless the Chinese are engaged.  They hold the keys to the nut-tightening screws.  If they want to dial it up then there is a chance.  But if it is all talk and no action then nothing will change.   Great theater for sure.  
    the Chinese aren't enforcing sh!t on them.  
    “There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body.”
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  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    SGH said:
    bgebrent said:
    Friday night has become so benign.  @nolaegghead.  A little help? ;)
    It's sort of a shame that you didn't ask me for help brother Brent. I haven't taken my meds today. And as such, I could really show the fukk out. However I will slink quietly away into the night and wait for the Hippy........... 
    Scottie, no room for you to act squeamish.  Slinking is ridiculous.  Flush your meds down the terlet and chime in my brother.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • Wolfpack
    Wolfpack Posts: 3,552
    New meaning of soju bomb?


    Greensboro, NC
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  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    Wolfpack said:
    New meaning of soju bomb?


    Not really.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,765
    I'm with @HeavyG here regarding how China sees/plays the DPRK.  I also think a major reason China may exert more influence now is because they don't want a regime collapse and the hoards of people rolling across the Yalu River although the total numbers wouldn't be much for them to absorb.  It could be a Germany unification deal but for the great loss of face given the Chinese aren't on the verge of internal collapse (think  USSR) along with the DPRK.  
    And anyone who thinks a shoot 'em up is at or near the top of the options only needs to look at the geography.  We have around 30K military in country along with associated family.  They are the trip-wire for US intervention.  The DPRK will aggressively go after Seoul (and the 10-15M population) right out of the gate.  They may lose the war but they will win the first salvo-and that is quite a heavy price to pay.  There are no good options from our perspective-been that way for 60+ years.  Best to hope for economic collapse and a strong and substantially backed internal leadership challenge.  However, don't hold your breath.

    No further insights or attempts at logical discussions tonight.  I need to fuel for LEO.

    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
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  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    lousubcap said:
    I'm with @HeavyG here regarding how China sees/plays the DPRK.  I also think a major reason China may exert more influence now is because they don't want a regime collapse and the hoards of people rolling across the Yalu River although the total numbers wouldn't be much for them to absorb.  It could be a Germany unification deal but for the great loss of face given the Chinese aren't on the verge of internal collapse (think  USSR) along with the DPRK.  
    And anyone who thinks a shoot 'em up is at or near the top of the options only needs to look at the geography.  We have around 30K military in country along with associated family.  They are the trip-wire for US intervention.  The DPRK will aggressively go after Seoul (and the 10-15M population) right out of the gate.  They may lose the war but they will win the first salvo-and that is quite a heavy price to pay.  There are no good options from our perspective-been that way for 60+ years.  Best to hope for economic collapse and a strong and substantially backed internal leadership challenge.  However, don't hold your breath.

    No further insights or attempts at logical discussions tonight.  I need to fuel for LEO.

    Very well said Cap.  And very sensical.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • bgebrent
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    SGH said:
    bgebrent said:
    Friday night has become so benign.  @nolaegghead.  A little help? ;)
    It's sort of a shame that you didn't ask me for help brother Brent. I haven't taken my meds today. And as such, I could really show the fukk out. However I will slink quietly away into the night and wait for the Hippy........... 
    Called you brother.  Look forward to meeting you .
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • JNDATHP
    JNDATHP Posts: 461
    All good points. Here is another to ponder. China does not want reunification because then there would be 30k troops on China's border. 
    Michael
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  • northGAcock
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    pgprescott said:
    Ut oh! I may need sanctions. Nighty night. 
    Pete.....carry on sir.
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