Sanctions

YukonRon

Kayak said:

"Why not drop about 20 million smart phones, pre loaded with the outside world information with one touch calling all over North Korea."

"God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." The boss on WKRP.

I don't know that your smartphone idea will be all that useful. Isn't there something else a smartphone requires?

Somebody to pick it up and press the "on" button. These communication items have so much potential for delivering information.

Gulfcoastguy

Eoin said:

DoubleEgger said:

Eoin said:

Dobie said:

.......... Next do you believe the US disarms countries only to topple them afterwards and if so to what gain? 

The view of US foreign policy outside of the US is a lot different to the view that you have from inside.

After the worst showings since the 40s in yesterday's German elections, it appears that German's are growing tired of the European  liberal status quo. 

13.5 % for the hard right. They are a very long way from power. 

My foreign policy point wasn't a liberal one, the US has a history under many presidents of interfering in other countries, so people like KJU do have reason to be worried, murderous dictator or not. Take the Middle East and Trump (and Obama before him) having a go at Iran and telling them to be more democratic. Iran has a democracy of sorts, unlike Saudi, which has none at all. You don't see US presidents taking a dig at Saudi while signing multi billion dollar arms contracts. 

I believe that it was Europe, not the US, who deposed Libya's Ghadaffi(spelling?) and thereby kicked off the Arab Spring.

Eoin

Gulfcoastguy said:

Eoin said:

DoubleEgger said:

Eoin said:

Dobie said:

.......... Next do you believe the US disarms countries only to topple them afterwards and if so to what gain? 

The view of US foreign policy outside of the US is a lot different to the view that you have from inside.

After the worst showings since the 40s in yesterday's German elections, it appears that German's are growing tired of the European  liberal status quo. 

13.5 % for the hard right. They are a very long way from power. 

My foreign policy point wasn't a liberal one, the US has a history under many presidents of interfering in other countries, so people like KJU do have reason to be worried, murderous dictator or not. Take the Middle East and Trump (and Obama before him) having a go at Iran and telling them to be more democratic. Iran has a democracy of sorts, unlike Saudi, which has none at all. You don't see US presidents taking a dig at Saudi while signing multi billion dollar arms contracts. 

I believe that it was Europe, not the US, who deposed Libya's Ghadaffi(spelling?) and thereby kicked off the Arab Spring.

NATO, but hey, none of us Western nations are squeaky clean. The arab spring kicked itself off and then fell away. 

The comment was in reply to @Dobie expressing surprise that the US could be involved in regime change. FWIW, I'm all for a bit of intervention where people are being opressed by their own Governments, unfortunately we only intervene when it suits us and conveniently ignore all kinds of unsavoury Governments when they are useful / on our side.

Eoin

fishlessman said:

we should wait til kju can nuke 7.5 billion before even thinking about taking him down

Not long now. I guess he can tell the West to shove their sanctions once he has the capacity to nuke Seoul and Tokyo.

thetrim

I recommend fully funding @nolaegghead to do a Brisket Camp Pyongyang edition.  He would get the whole town hammered and many would die of alcohol poisoning.  We could walk right into the city without firing a shot.

Dobie

Eoin said:

Gulfcoastguy said:

Eoin said:

DoubleEgger said:

Eoin said:

Dobie said:

.......... Next do you believe the US disarms countries only to topple them afterwards and if so to what gain? 

The view of US foreign policy outside of the US is a lot different to the view that you have from inside.

After the worst showings since the 40s in yesterday's German elections, it appears that German's are growing tired of the European  liberal status quo. 

13.5 % for the hard right. They are a very long way from power. 

My foreign policy point wasn't a liberal one, the US has a history under many presidents of interfering in other countries, so people like KJU do have reason to be worried, murderous dictator or not. Take the Middle East and Trump (and Obama before him) having a go at Iran and telling them to be more democratic. Iran has a democracy of sorts, unlike Saudi, which has none at all. You don't see US presidents taking a dig at Saudi while signing multi billion dollar arms contracts. 

I believe that it was Europe, not the US, who deposed Libya's Ghadaffi(spelling?) and thereby kicked off the Arab Spring.

NATO, but hey, none of us Western nations are squeaky clean. The arab spring kicked itself off and then fell away. 

The comment was in reply to @Dobie expressing surprise that the US could be involved in regime change. FWIW, I'm all for a bit of intervention where people are being opressed by their own Governments, unfortunately we only intervene when it suits us and conveniently ignore all kinds of unsavoury Governments when they are useful / on our side.

Surprise LOL 

YEMTrey

Just gonna leave this here:

http://local12.com/news/nation-world/warmbiers-give-1st-interview-since-son-ottos-death-north-korea-destroyed-him

GATraveller

YEMTrey said:

Just gonna leave this here:

http://local12.com/news/nation-world/warmbiers-give-1st-interview-since-son-ottos-death-north-korea-destroyed-him

I just can't even fathom how someone could treat another human this way.  Breaks my heart for his family.