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  • saluki2007
    saluki2007 Posts: 6,354

    1 A rabbit is a long-term commitment Many indoor rabbits will live between 7-10 years

    Large and Small BGE
    Central, IL

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  • bud812
    bud812 Posts: 1,869

    Not to get technical, but according to chemistry alcohol is a solution...

    Large & Small BGE

    Stockton Ca.

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  • northGAcock
    northGAcock Posts: 15,173
    Ellijay GA with a Medium & MiniMax

    Well, I married me a wife, she's been trouble all my life,
    Run me out in the cold rain and snow
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  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 17,353
    They just discovered an amberized dinosaur tail, with feathers still attached.  If they re-do Jurassic Park with feathers, it's gonna look like a bad Vegas show.
     

     

    “I'll have what she's having."  

        -Rob Reiner's mother!   

    Ogden, UT, USA

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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,708
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
    JohnInCarolina said:
    I heard that if you whine and complain you will be more likely to get on the bluish colored line? Maybe if you drop out of school and have a bunch of kids in an unstable environment it will also help? Wonder what happened in society over those 40+ years? 

    Problem solving 101 will teach you to find the problem so you can quit wasting your time trying to come up with solutions to a symptom. I know, I know, it's hard to tell people that it's largely the fault of their parents and / or their community or worse yet themselves.
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,708
    pgprescott said:
    I heard that if you whine and complain you will be more likely to get on the bluish colored line? Maybe if you drop out of school and have a bunch of kids in an unstable environment it will also help? Wonder what happened in society over those 40+ years? 

    Problem solving 101 will teach you to find the problem so you can quit wasting your time trying to come up with solutions to a symptom. I know, I know, it's hard to tell people that it's largely the fault of their parents and / or their community or worse yet themselves.
    It's interesting Peter that this is your takeaway from that, because for me the take-home message is very different.

    I suspect we might get different reads on this if the orange line were set a bit higher -say to the "bottom" 60% or 70% or even 75%.  Where I think perspectives would change for a lot of folks is when the line starts to line up with what their incomes are right now.   I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that for a lot of folks here, those lines are pretty flat too.  And I would not exactly characterize them as slackers, but it might be just me.  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 21,659
    Curves are not surprising.  When you rig the game it is easy to win.  The top .05% play the game like a 6 year old.  If someone else looks like they might win, they flip the board, scream and yell, then reset it up to their liking.

    I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.

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  • The Cen-Tex Smoker
    The Cen-Tex Smoker Posts: 23,179
    northGAcock said:
    This is so me
    Keepin' It Weird in The ATX FBTX
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  • theyolksonyou
    theyolksonyou Posts: 18,459
    JohnInCarolina said:
    pgprescott said:
    I heard that if you whine and complain you will be more likely to get on the bluish colored line? Maybe if you drop out of school and have a bunch of kids in an unstable environment it will also help? Wonder what happened in society over those 40+ years? 

    Problem solving 101 will teach you to find the problem so you can quit wasting your time trying to come up with solutions to a symptom. I know, I know, it's hard to tell people that it's largely the fault of their parents and / or their community or worse yet themselves.
    It's interesting Peter that this is your takeaway from that, because for me the take-home message is very different.

    I suspect we might get different reads on this if the orange line were set a bit higher -say to the "bottom" 60% or 70% or even 75%.  Where I think perspectives would change for a lot of folks is when the line starts to line up with what their incomes are right now.   I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that for a lot of folks here, those lines are pretty flat too.  And I would not exactly characterize them as slackers, but it might be just me.  
    As a percent increase over the last twenty years, I'm kicking the 1% ers collective a$$es. But it might just be me.  B)
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  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
    JohnInCarolina said:
    pgprescott said:
    I heard that if you whine and complain you will be more likely to get on the bluish colored line? Maybe if you drop out of school and have a bunch of kids in an unstable environment it will also help? Wonder what happened in society over those 40+ years? 

    Problem solving 101 will teach you to find the problem so you can quit wasting your time trying to come up with solutions to a symptom. I know, I know, it's hard to tell people that it's largely the fault of their parents and / or their community or worse yet themselves.
    It's interesting Peter that this is your takeaway from that, because for me the take-home message is very different.

    I suspect we might get different reads on this if the orange line were set a bit higher -say to the "bottom" 60% or 70% or even 75%.  Where I think perspectives would change for a lot of folks is when the line starts to line up with what their incomes are right now.   I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that for a lot of folks here, those lines are pretty flat too.  And I would not exactly characterize them as slackers, but it might be just me.  
    I'm just trying to get a rise out of you John.

    However, you should examine my analysis closely.

    What do they mean by "real" and "adjusted for inflation"? Is that like the unemployment figures if they were adjusted for the poor folks left behind in the job market? 
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,708
    edited December 2016
    I think the information presented can be deceptive, as the $16,200 is an average income across the entire spectrum of the bottom 50%.  

    The CNN/money calculator indicates that someone making $55k a year or less is in the bottom 50%.  

    http://money.cnn.com/calculator/pf/income-rank/

    I suspect that will change the perspective for many folks.  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,580
    JohnInCarolina said:
    i dont see the system changing but do see the need to change lanes, im driving in the wrong lane =)
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,580

    Nominal Mean Incomes

    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,708
    @fishlessman - thanks for tracking that down.  It would be more interesting if adjusted for inflation.  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,580
    JohnInCarolina said:
    @fishlessman - thanks for tracking that down.  It would be more interesting if adjusted for inflation.  
    that would just tick me off, i was doing better early 90's, my line would nose dive if adjusted. what i would really like to see is it adjusted and by each generation
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,708
    fishlessman said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    @fishlessman - thanks for tracking that down.  It would be more interesting if adjusted for inflation.  
    that would just tick me off, i was doing better early 90's, my line would nose dive if adjusted. what i would really like to see is it adjusted and by each generation
    Oh you mean averages split out by generation?  Yeah that would be interesting to see.  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,580
    heres the one you are looking for

    Real Mean Incomes


    3/5ths of the pop is extremely flat lined
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 17,353
    And the tax rate for the Top 1% (not 5% as in the graph above) was 91% immediately after WWII, when we also had the greatest nat'l debt (as a percentage of GDP, not in absolute dollars).  Now, it's (paging Mittens) 13%.
     
    See how it works?   ;)

    “I'll have what she's having."  

        -Rob Reiner's mother!   

    Ogden, UT, USA

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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,708
    fishlessman said:
    heres the one you are looking for

    Real Mean Incomes


    3/5ths of the pop is extremely flat lined
    Yep.  That's the soul-crushing graph, isn't it?  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • YukonRon
    YukonRon Posts: 17,261
    bone crushing
    "Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber

    XL and MM
    Louisville, Kentucky
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  • thetrim
    thetrim Posts: 11,387
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI2iRp5uKj8
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    XL 6/06, Mini 6/12, L 10/12, Mini #2 12/14 MiniMax 3/16 Large #2 11/20 Legacy from my FIL - RIP PitBoss Navigator 850G 11/25
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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    How much longer before the serfs start storming the castles again?
    ***********


    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




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  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
    Notice In this  graphic how people gravitate around a stupid idea or chart which is meaningless at best. Interesting! There are some outliers but most are right in there. Thanks for looking. 
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,708
    @thetrim - wtf did I just watch buddy?  LOL.  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    JohnInCarolina said:
    @thetrim - wtf did I just watch buddy?  LOL.  
    When I read the title I thought we might be visiting the Rosse Buurt  areas of Amsterdam.

    Was a bit disappointed.
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




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  • thetrim
    thetrim Posts: 11,387
    JohnInCarolina said:
    @thetrim - wtf did I just watch buddy?  LOL.  
    With all this talk of harassment toward bunny rabbits, I thought some might find the beauty in that animal.    Guess you aren't one of them, John
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    XL 6/06, Mini 6/12, L 10/12, Mini #2 12/14 MiniMax 3/16 Large #2 11/20 Legacy from my FIL - RIP PitBoss Navigator 850G 11/25
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  • YukonRon
    YukonRon Posts: 17,261
    HeavyG said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    @thetrim - wtf did I just watch buddy?  LOL.  
    When I read the title I thought we might be visiting the Rosse Buurt  areas of Amsterdam.

    Was a bit disappointed.
    My second favorite city in Europe, slightly behind Paris.
    "Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber

    XL and MM
    Louisville, Kentucky
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,708
    thetrim said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    @thetrim - wtf did I just watch buddy?  LOL.  
    With all this talk of harassment toward bunny rabbits, I thought some might find the beauty in that animal.    Guess you aren't one of them, John
    Hold up - there was a rabbit in that video?
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    simmah down now, calm, be calm....
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    I love lamp..
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