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saluki2007

bud812

northGAcock

Botch

They just discovered an amberized dinosaur tail, with feathers still attached.  If they re-do Jurassic Park with feathers, it's gonna look like a bad Vegas show.
 

 

JohnInCarolina

pgprescott

JohnInCarolina said:

I heard that if you whine and complain you will be more likely to get on the bluish colored line? Maybe if you drop out of school and have a bunch of kids in an unstable environment it will also help? Wonder what happened in society over those 40+ years? 

Problem solving 101 will teach you to find the problem so you can quit wasting your time trying to come up with solutions to a symptom. I know, I know, it's hard to tell people that it's largely the fault of their parents and / or their community or worse yet themselves.

JohnInCarolina

pgprescott said:

I heard that if you whine and complain you will be more likely to get on the bluish colored line? Maybe if you drop out of school and have a bunch of kids in an unstable environment it will also help? Wonder what happened in society over those 40+ years? 

Problem solving 101 will teach you to find the problem so you can quit wasting your time trying to come up with solutions to a symptom. I know, I know, it's hard to tell people that it's largely the fault of their parents and / or their community or worse yet themselves.

It's interesting Peter that this is your takeaway from that, because for me the take-home message is very different.

I suspect we might get different reads on this if the orange line were set a bit higher -say to the "bottom" 60% or 70% or even 75%.  Where I think perspectives would change for a lot of folks is when the line starts to line up with what their incomes are right now.   I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that for a lot of folks here, those lines are pretty flat too.  And I would not exactly characterize them as slackers, but it might be just me.  

Ozzie_Isaac

Curves are not surprising.  When you rig the game it is easy to win.  The top .05% play the game like a 6 year old.  If someone else looks like they might win, they flip the board, scream and yell, then reset it up to their liking.

The Cen-Tex Smoker

northGAcock said:

This is so me

theyolksonyou

JohnInCarolina said:

pgprescott said:

I heard that if you whine and complain you will be more likely to get on the bluish colored line? Maybe if you drop out of school and have a bunch of kids in an unstable environment it will also help? Wonder what happened in society over those 40+ years? 

Problem solving 101 will teach you to find the problem so you can quit wasting your time trying to come up with solutions to a symptom. I know, I know, it's hard to tell people that it's largely the fault of their parents and / or their community or worse yet themselves.

It's interesting Peter that this is your takeaway from that, because for me the take-home message is very different.

I suspect we might get different reads on this if the orange line were set a bit higher -say to the "bottom" 60% or 70% or even 75%.  Where I think perspectives would change for a lot of folks is when the line starts to line up with what their incomes are right now.   I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that for a lot of folks here, those lines are pretty flat too.  And I would not exactly characterize them as slackers, but it might be just me.  

As a percent increase over the last twenty years, I'm kicking the 1% ers collective a$$es. But it might just be me. 

pgprescott

JohnInCarolina said:

pgprescott said:

I heard that if you whine and complain you will be more likely to get on the bluish colored line? Maybe if you drop out of school and have a bunch of kids in an unstable environment it will also help? Wonder what happened in society over those 40+ years? 

Problem solving 101 will teach you to find the problem so you can quit wasting your time trying to come up with solutions to a symptom. I know, I know, it's hard to tell people that it's largely the fault of their parents and / or their community or worse yet themselves.

It's interesting Peter that this is your takeaway from that, because for me the take-home message is very different.

I suspect we might get different reads on this if the orange line were set a bit higher -say to the "bottom" 60% or 70% or even 75%.  Where I think perspectives would change for a lot of folks is when the line starts to line up with what their incomes are right now.   I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that for a lot of folks here, those lines are pretty flat too.  And I would not exactly characterize them as slackers, but it might be just me.  

I'm just trying to get a rise out of you John.

However, you should examine my analysis closely.

What do they mean by "real" and "adjusted for inflation"? Is that like the unemployment figures if they were adjusted for the poor folks left behind in the job market? 

JohnInCarolina

I think the information presented can be deceptive, as the $16,200 is an average income across the entire spectrum of the bottom 50%.  

The CNN/money calculator indicates that someone making $55k a year or less is in the bottom 50%.  

http://money.cnn.com/calculator/pf/income-rank/

I suspect that will change the perspective for many folks.  

fishlessman

JohnInCarolina said:

i dont see the system changing but do see the need to change lanes, im driving in the wrong lane

fishlessman

JohnInCarolina

@fishlessman - thanks for tracking that down.  It would be more interesting if adjusted for inflation.  

fishlessman

JohnInCarolina said:

@fishlessman - thanks for tracking that down.  It would be more interesting if adjusted for inflation.  

that would just tick me off, i was doing better early 90's, my line would nose dive if adjusted. what i would really like to see is it adjusted and by each generation

JohnInCarolina

fishlessman said:

JohnInCarolina said:

@fishlessman - thanks for tracking that down.  It would be more interesting if adjusted for inflation.  

that would just tick me off, i was doing better early 90's, my line would nose dive if adjusted. what i would really like to see is it adjusted and by each generation

Oh you mean averages split out by generation?  Yeah that would be interesting to see.  

fishlessman

heres the one you are looking for




3/5ths of the pop is extremely flat lined

Botch

And the tax rate for the Top 1% (not 5% as in the graph above) was 91% immediately after WWII, when we also had the greatest nat'l debt (as a percentage of GDP, not in absolute dollars).  Now, it's (paging Mittens) 13%.
 
See how it works?  

JohnInCarolina

fishlessman said:

heres the one you are looking for




3/5ths of the pop is extremely flat lined

Yep.  That's the soul-crushing graph, isn't it?  

YukonRon

bone crushing

thetrim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI2iRp5uKj8

HeavyG

How much longer before the serfs start storming the castles again?
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pgprescott

Notice In this  graphic how people gravitate around a stupid idea or chart which is meaningless at best. Interesting! There are some outliers but most are right in there. Thanks for looking. 

JohnInCarolina

@thetrim - wtf did I just watch buddy?  LOL.  

HeavyG

JohnInCarolina said:

@thetrim - wtf did I just watch buddy?  LOL.  

When I read the title I thought we might be visiting the Rosse Buurt  areas of Amsterdam.

Was a bit disappointed.

thetrim

JohnInCarolina said:

@thetrim - wtf did I just watch buddy?  LOL.  

With all this talk of harassment toward bunny rabbits, I thought some might find the beauty in that animal.    Guess you aren't one of them, John

YukonRon

HeavyG said:

JohnInCarolina said:

@thetrim - wtf did I just watch buddy?  LOL.  

When I read the title I thought we might be visiting the Rosse Buurt  areas of Amsterdam.

Was a bit disappointed.

My second favorite city in Europe, slightly behind Paris.

JohnInCarolina

thetrim said:

JohnInCarolina said:

@thetrim - wtf did I just watch buddy?  LOL.  

With all this talk of harassment toward bunny rabbits, I thought some might find the beauty in that animal.    Guess you aren't one of them, John

Hold up - there was a rabbit in that video?

nolaegghead

simmah down now, calm, be calm....