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Old school Meat Pie recipe wanted.

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  • Posts: 28,920
    jrb06 said:
    SGH are you looking for a hot meat pie similar to a chicken pot pie or a cold meat pie like apple, cherry or such? If the later I have a mincemeat pie recipe from my grandmother that I can share.  
    The pies from Wallers was hot. I would love to try your recipe if you don't mind sharing my friend. 

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  • Posts: 3,901
    Is meat pie and Shepards pie the same thing?
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  • Posts: 2,657
    Hans61 said:
    Is meat pie and Shepards pie the same thing?
    see pics above. 

    the meat pie has a crust
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  • Posts: 28,920
    Hans61 said:
    Is meat pie and Shepards pie the same thing?
    I'm not a pie expert by any stretch of the imagination so I can't give you a technical answer. However I can tell you for sure that the meat pies I'm speaking off are totally different from Shepards pie. Night and day different.  

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  • Posts: 33,819
    heres a list of what the english butcher here sells for pub pies =) theres a line at 9 in the morning for hot pies

     

    Apple Pork
    Pork grounded up with apple sauce
    Barbecue Chicken
    Chicken with barbeque sauce
    Beef Teriyaki
    Ground marinated steak tips
    Broccoli and Cheese
    Broccoli mixed with velveeta cheese
    Bratwurst
    Bratwurst sausage meat
    Cheese and Onion
    Onion bits mixed with velveeta cheese
    Chicken
    Chicken bits with homemade gravy
    Chicken and Broccoli
    Chicken bits mixed with broccoli
    Chicken Teriyaki
    Ground up marinated chicken
    Chili
    Homemade chili
    Chinese Sausage
    Chinese Sausage meat
    Frank and Beans
    Essem hot dogs and homemade beans
    Greek Sausage
    Greek Sausage meat
    Hamburg and Onion
    Diced onions and ground hamburg
    Hot Italian
    Spicy Italian Sausage meat
    Italian
    Italian Sausage meat
    Kielbasa
    Kielbasa meat
    Lamb
    Ground up Lamb mixed with onions
    Omelette Pie
    Egg with broccoli, ham and cheese
    Pepper Steak
    Ground up beef with peppers and onions
    Pork
    Ground up pork with homemade gravy
    Pork Sausage
    Pork Sausage meat
    Rueben
    Corned beef, thousand island dressing & sour kraut
    Salmon
    Salmon mixed with mashed potatoes
    Spinach
    Cooked, chopped spinach
    Steak and Kidney
    Bits of steak and beef kidney
    Tomato
    Tomato Sausage meat
    Tourtiere
    Ground pork with sauteed onions, mashed potatoes & seasoning
    Turkey
    Turkey bits with homemade gravy

       

     




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  • Can you describe the sauce?
  • How could anyone resist an onion and velveeta pie at 9am?

    Little Rock, AR

  • Posts: 28,920
    @fishlessman
    The pies from Wallers was not quite as deep or "tall" as the ones you posted. But the general look was the same. Just smaller.

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  • Posts: 28,920
    Can you describe the sauce?
    It's kind of hard to explain. But if I had to compare the taste of the sauce to something, it favored a real deep beef stew flavor. 

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  • Posts: 33,819
    SGH said:
    @fishlessman
    The pies from Wallers was not quite as deep or "tall" as the ones you posted. But the general look was the same. Just smaller.
    the ones i posted from the butcher shop are maybe 3 inches across and a little over 1.5 tall. he uses a press for the crusts that came over on a boat in the late 1800's.  if i ever get a heart attack someday its from either eating these pies or they closed the shop. its one of those creaky floors, old wooden shelves kind of place, the women making the pies are around 90 years of age
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  • Posts: 33,819
    been using these lately, the disk slides down and you push the pie up and out, about a 4 inch high pub pie. made by silverwood. i also make an italian sausage pie and set it in a bowl of tomato sauce, just pie crust and fresh italian sausage with the broth added

    Alan Silverwood Pork Pie Tin  Mould 4 Anodised With Loose Bottom

    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • been using these lately, the disk slides down and you push the pie up and out, about a 4 inch high pub pie. made by silverwood. i also make an italian sausage pie and set it in a bowl of tomato sauce, just pie crust and fresh italian sausage with the broth added

    Alan Silverwood Pork Pie Tin  Mould 4 Anodised With Loose Bottom

    What size are those? Are they expensive?

    Little Rock, AR

  • SGH said:
    It's kind of hard to explain. But if I had to compare the taste of the sauce to something, it favored a real deep beef stew flavor. 
    And are there veggies in the pie? 

    Is it possible, given that he's a butcher, that he's doing beef and pork braise cooked cooked in a super flavorful, gelatinous stock? Maybe that's been reduced almost to a gravy, in the French fashion? 
  • Posts: 17,629
    edited June 2016
    Many moons ago we'd visit a place in Minden, NE   Pioneer Village. They made some extraordinary true Old West Hearty Meat Pies. & some of the Best (off-topic I know) Minced Meat Pies. It's been probably 35 yrs since I was there so, they may no longer do this today.  They were made start to finish in front of visitors. I'll have to dig up some old memoirs to see if I can locate one of my Grandmother's or Grandfather's recipes. Nostalgic for me to say the least. 
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  • Posts: 33,819
    What size are those? Are they expensive?
    they were pricey, i think 15 each, but i wanted them to use in the mini. 3 fit my mini kub, about 3 inches round, 4 inches deep. i use them for the pies and mini deep deep dish pizzas. one meat pie that size is pretty filling
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  • Posts: 28,920
    And are there veggies in the pie? 

    Is it possible, given that he's a butcher, that he's doing beef and pork braise cooked cooked in a super flavorful, gelatinous stock? Maybe that's been reduced almost to a gravy, in the French fashion? 
    There was no sign or taste of vegetables at all. 

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  • Posts: 28,920
    @fishlessman
    Brother less, I have been real busy today so my comments and have been kind of short and on the fly. With that said, I do want to say thanks for all the great info you have posted in this thread. I really appreciate it ole buddy. And for the record, if I had Rons money I would just buy Wallers market. Problem would be solved =)

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  • SGH said:
    There was no sign or taste of vegetables at all. 
    Sounds like my kinda pie. MEAT!

    Little Rock, AR

  • Posts: 28,920
    they were pricey, 
    If y'all had Rons money, the price would be irrelevant  =)

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  • Posts: 28,920
    Focker said:
    Were they on the sweeter side?

    They were not sweet at all my friend. 

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  • Posts: 28,920
    Scottie, you should check out "The Pie Man" in Gretna next time you're in town.
    The next time that I'm at your place I would love for us to swing by there ole buddy.  

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  • Posts: 1,648
    What size are those? Are they expensive?
    You bought an egg and wonder if the cost of a pie pan is expensive... ;) 
  • onedbguru said:
    You bought an egg and wonder if the cost of a pie pan is expensive... ;) 
    Thats a good point.

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  • Posts: 1,726
    heres a list of what the english butcher here sells for pub pies =) theres a line at 9 in the morning for hot pies

     

    Apple Pork
    Pork grounded up with apple sauce
    Barbecue Chicken
    Chicken with barbeque sauce
    Beef Teriyaki
    Ground marinated steak tips
    Broccoli and Cheese
    Broccoli mixed with velveeta cheese
    Bratwurst
    Bratwurst sausage meat
    Cheese and Onion
    Onion bits mixed with velveeta cheese
    Chicken
    Chicken bits with homemade gravy
    Chicken and Broccoli
    Chicken bits mixed with broccoli
    Chicken Teriyaki
    Ground up marinated chicken
    Chili
    Homemade chili
    Chinese Sausage
    Chinese Sausage meat
    Frank and Beans
    Essem hot dogs and homemade beans
    Greek Sausage
    Greek Sausage meat
    Hamburg and Onion
    Diced onions and ground hamburg
    Hot Italian
    Spicy Italian Sausage meat
    Italian
    Italian Sausage meat
    Kielbasa
    Kielbasa meat
    Lamb
    Ground up Lamb mixed with onions
    Omelette Pie
    Egg with broccoli, ham and cheese
    Pepper Steak
    Ground up beef with peppers and onions
    Pork
    Ground up pork with homemade gravy
    Pork Sausage
    Pork Sausage meat
    Rueben
    Corned beef, thousand island dressing & sour kraut
    Salmon
    Salmon mixed with mashed potatoes
    Spinach
    Cooked, chopped spinach
    Steak and Kidney
    Bits of steak and beef kidney
    Tomato
    Tomato Sausage meat
    Tourtiere
    Ground pork with sauteed onions, mashed potatoes & seasoning
    Turkey
    Turkey bits with homemade gravy

       

     




    I've been dying to try Thwaites!
  • Posts: 4,858
    I am a French Canadian and "tourtière" is a tradition around here.  I usually help my mom prepare a ton of them around Christmas time. Have a look at this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourtière

    We make the "Montreal" version with a mix of ground beef, pork and veal (not too lean).  The meat is browned with some onions and then seasoned with salt, pepper, cinnamon, cloves, allspice, sage and sometime other spices.  Water is then added to the meat mix.  We let it simmer for a while until the liquid has reduced.  I am now going to tell you a secret: we use tea instead of water.  In fact, for the last few years, we have been using chai.

    After letting the meat mixture cool down, we fill pie crusts with it and then freeze the tourtière until we are ready to bake them.

    I don't have the exact recipe with me right now but it looks a lot like this one : http://spicetrekkers.com/tourtiere/

    Here's what I have in the freezer right now.  On the left, a traditional tourtière.  On the right a potato/bacon tourtière.







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  • Posts: 4,858
    You should also look into "Cretons": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretons

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  • Posts: 52
    SGH said:
    The pies from Wallers was hot. I would love to try your recipe if you don't mind sharing my friend. 

    I will get it posted and sent to you when returning home later this week.
  • Posts: 33,819
    edited June 2016
    paqman said:
    You should also look into "Cretons": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretons
    we call it gorton here, dont know why =) 10 bucks and your set up for 5 or 6 days for lunches and served on toast for breakfast

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  • Posts: 2,657
    paqman said:
    You should also look into "Cretons": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretons
    A favorite. Wife's family calls it 'corton'

    Basically fat and meat. 

    It to is a pate really. Just a mild one. Esentially identical to rillettes. 

    Funny how it's all the same techniques with different names
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  • Posts: 28,920
    Funny how it's all the same techniques with different names
    This is true of many things my friend. Sex positions included. 

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