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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • HeavyG said:
    I haven’t spent any time really looking into that, in terms of verifying that Musk actually said what is claimed.  But if half of it is accurate, the guy has been making sh!t up for a long time.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380

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  • "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 34,093
    I can barely spell Twitter but this $hit show is quite entertaining if not for the fact that many committed employees will lose their jobs at the expense of a CHEETOian wanna-be (in terms of attention) narcissist.  Grab and Go does not fit this business model nor apply here.  
    This was not his empire going in.  I see a near-term "Declare Victory and move on statement."  FWIW-
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  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 16,295
    lousubcap said:
    I can barely spell Twitter but this $hit show is quite entertaining if not for the fact that many committed employees will lose their jobs at the expense of a CHEETOian wanna-be (in terms of attention) narcissist.  Grab and Go does not fit this business model nor apply here.  
    The similarities are stunning.  
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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380

    From the Washington Post tonight:


    Hundreds said to have opted to leave Twitter over Musk ultimatum

    Joseph Menn, Nitasha Tiku, Faiz Siddiqui — Read time: 4 minutes


    Democracy Dies in Darkness

    Hundreds said to have opted to leave Twitter over Musk ultimatum

    The number of likely departures prompted Musk to ease his return-to-office edict and managers to meet to decide which engineers to ask back

    Updated November 17, 2022 at 10:09 p.m. EST|Published November 17, 2022 at 6:15 p.m. EST
    Elon Musk eased off a return-to-office mandate he had issued a week ago, now telling employees that they would be allowed to work remotely if their managers assert they are making “an excellent contribution.” (Gabby Jones/Bloomberg News)
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    SAN FRANCISCO — Hundreds of Twitter employees refused Thursday to sign a pledge to work longer hours, threatening the site’s ability to keep operating and prompting hurried debates among managers over who should be asked to return, current and former employees said.

    The number of engineers tending to multiple critical systems had been reduced to two, one or even zero, according to people familiar with the situation who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation.

    The crisis came in response to an ultimatum new owner Elon Musk issued Wednesday demanding that employees sign a pledge to work harder by 5 p.m. Eastern time Thursday or accept three months’ severance pay.

    In an early sign that the number of those declining to sign was greater than anticipated, Musk eased off a return-to-office mandate he had issued a week ago, telling employees Thursday they would be allowed to work remotely if their managers assert they are making “an excellent contribution.”

    But it was too late to keep Twitter from a precarious position, several workers said.

    “I know of six critical systems (like ‘serving tweets’ levels of critical) which no longer have any engineers,” a former employee said. "There is no longer even a skeleton crew manning the system. It will continue to coast until it runs into something, and then it will stop.”

    Workers offered varying estimates of how many people remained employed at Twitter, ranging from 2,000 to 2,500, down from the 3,500 or so believed to have remained after an initial round of layoffs this month.

    Among those who were said to have declined to sign the pledge was half the trust and safety policy team, including a majority of those who work on spotting misinformation, spam, fake accounts and impersonation, according to one employee familiar with the team.

    Meanwhile, several critical engineering teams were reported to have been hollowed out. The team that runs the service Gizmoduck, which powers and stores all information in user profiles across the site, was entirely gone, according to a recent department head who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to detail the departures.

    Departing employees filled the Twitter hashtag #LoveWhereYouWorked with public farewells.

    “I thought my soul was already fully crushed after the last two weeks. I was so wrong. Today has been rough,” one tweeted. “There will never be a better culture than what we had. We know it. Every other tech company knows it.”

    “Wow, this is a lot of people saying goodbye,” one current employee said Thursday, referring to internal posts on the company’s Slack channels.

    Twitter employees weren’t the only ones saying goodbye Thursday night. As news of the depleted engineering teams spread across the site, Twitter users began preparing for the worst — exchanging contact information, trying to download their Twitter data, and posting potential “final posts” in case the site were to go down permanently.

    As of 9 p.m. Eastern time, the top trend on Twitter in the United States was “#RIPTwitter,” followed by the names of alternative social networks such as Tumblr, Discord, and Mastodon as users mulled life after tweets.

    Musk’s return-to-office order had been a source of tension since it was issued on Nov. 9. In an email, he told employees they were expected back at their desks the next day. At a follow-up staff meeting on Nov. 10, Musk said that “exceptional” employees could continue to work from home, as many have since the pandemic began. But the return-to-office order remained a source of grumbling for Twitter staffers who had remained at the company after Musk-ordered layoffs Nov. 4 eliminated approximately half of Twitter’s jobs.

    Musk did not say why he revised his return-to-office order. One Twitter staff member said the numbers of employees seeking to leave had alarmed many of Twitter’s managers, who had formed “war rooms” to determine which employees should be asked to stay on.

    Resignations and departures were already taking a toll on Twitter’s service, employees said. “Breakages are already happening slowly and accumulating,” one said. “If you want to export your tweets, do it now.”

    Hate speech and other abuse was also likely to spike, employees said. About half of Twitter’s Trust and Safety team, declined to sign the pledge, a co-worker said.

    The easing of the return-to-office order was the latest change in Musk’s decisions as head of Twitter. Musk also has halted his initiative imposing an $8 monthly subscription fee on accounts labeled with Twitter’s blue check mark.

    Musk has said he wants to increase the platform’s ability to make money, focusing on ways to drive revenue and slashing costs. Musk, who is also chief executive of SpaceX and Tesla, is known for his companies’ hard-charging cultures and has famously described spending nights in a sleeping bag on the factory floor.

    On Wednesday, Musk took the stand in Delaware Chancery Court in a trial over a shareholder lawsuit stemming from a compensation package he received as Tesla CEO. He also defended some of his actions at Twitter, including bringing in Tesla engineers to evaluate Twitter’s engineering staff.

    Musk said in a Wednesday email outlining the severance offer that Twitter would be more of an engineering-focused operation going forward. And while the design and product management areas would still be important and report to him, he said, “those writing great code will constitute the majority of our team and have the greatest sway.”

    Gerrit De Vynck and Will Oremus contributed to this report.


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  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 16,295
    I think I posted something similar just a week or two ago.  Surely a couple hard drives or similar walked out the door recently (users and programs/ workflow), now along with most of the talent, that just need a small (servers/ advertising) influx of cash to set up an alternate platform (Tweet, Squawk, Woof, UnMusk, who cares what it's called) to totally grind away this "Bastion-of-free-speech-unless-you-mock-me-then-Die" insane narcissist loser.  
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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    LOL

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  • -news on the street is that +/- 75% of people who got the ultimatum to “click yes” by 5pm tonight to Elons draconian new work rules did not click yes. It has been reported that all Twitter campuses are now locked down with every employees credentials non-functional. Apparently up to 90% of critical engineers have been fired or have taken the severance. It seems most are highly sought-after with companies with much better working environments and can take 3 months free salary from Elon and go work elsewhere. There are no non-compete clauses or restrictions as it was rushed through ha ha. 
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  • Look maybe Elon has some grand master plan and is playing six dimensional chess with the platform, but the alternative - that he has almost no idea what he’s doing and is making mistakes left and right - seems much more likely at the moment.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 34,093
    A snapshot of the chaos addressed above:

    Fortune Magazine’s Kylie Robison said up to 75% of Musk’s employees had decided to abandon the company.

    The Verge reported that “given the scale of the resignations this week, they expect the platform to start breaking soon,” adding: “[T]he team that maintains Twitter’s core system libraries that every engineer at the company uses is gone after Thursday. ‘You cannot run Twitter without this team,’ the employee said.”

    Twitter’s offices were closed until Monday, and reports suggested Musk was paranoid that departing employees might try to sabotage the company.

    Platformer’s Zoë Schiffer said the people behind Musk’s signature verification project, which was scheduled to relaunch on Nov. 29, were also out. “This is going to look like a very different company tomorrow,” she reported.

    Insider’s Kali Hays reported “that the entirety of Twitter’s payroll department has resigned/not elected to sign up for Elon’s Twitter 2.0.”

    The Times reported that Musk frantically tried to retain top talent in hastily arranged Zooms. “As the 5 p.m. deadline passed, some who had called in began hanging up, seemingly having decided to leave, even as Mr. Musk continued speaking,” according to NYT’s Ryan Mac, Mike Isaac and David McCabe .

    A former Twitter employee told the Post : “I know of six critical systems (like ‘serving tweets’ levels of critical) which no longer have any engineers. There is no longer even a skeleton crew manning the system. It will continue to coast until it runs into something, and then it will stop.”

    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380

    Seems about par for the course for Elon.




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  • dmchicago
    dmchicago Posts: 4,516
    HeavyG said:
    His AOC boner is taller than he is. 
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  • littlerascal56
    littlerascal56 Posts: 2,106
    edited November 2022
    Apparently humanity itself is in peril because a TECH billionaire bought a TECH company.

  • dmchicago
    dmchicago Posts: 4,516
    Apparently humanity itself is in peril because a billionaire bought Twitter. 


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  • littlerascal56
    littlerascal56 Posts: 2,106
    edited November 2022
    Now the employees are freaking out because they are losing some of their perks!  Snowflakes!
    Get rid of the snowflakes & sheep….and replace with wolves. Elon is a WOLF for sure!
  • Now the employees are freaking out because they are losing some of their perks!  Snowflakes!
    Get rid of the snowflakes & sheep….and replace with wolves. Elon is a WOLF for sure!
    Is your goal here to make people laugh at you?  Because if it is, well… bravo man.


    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • Now the employees are freaking out because they are losing some of their perks!  Snowflakes!
    Get rid of the snowflakes & sheep….and replace with wolves. Elon is a WOLF for sure!
    Is your goal here to make people laugh at you?  Because if it is, well… bravo man.


    No John…the goal was to make you and your liberal fan base look stupid with all your acenine posts. Like you all are smarter than Elon. Dream on.
    Mission accomplished!  Well done John.
  • caliking
    caliking Posts: 18,943
    If MAGATs are so distracted by Elon's shenanigans at Twitter... who's going to find Hunter's laptop?!?!?

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  • Now the employees are freaking out because they are losing some of their perks!  Snowflakes!
    Get rid of the snowflakes & sheep….and replace with wolves. Elon is a WOLF for sure!
    Is your goal here to make people laugh at you?  Because if it is, well… bravo man.


    No John…the goal was to make you and your liberal fan base look stupid with all your acenine posts. Like you all are smarter than Elon. Dream on.
    Mission accomplished!  Well done John.


    “acenine posts” - does that beat a pair of kings?





    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 16,295
    edited November 2022
    littlerascal56 said:
    …the goal was to make you and your liberal fan base look stupid with all your acenine posts.
    Oooh, I'm not familiar with  that drug!  Link?  
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    - Lin Yutang


  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 33,545
    caliking B) said: ;)
    If MAGATs are so distracted by Elon's shenanigans at Twitter... who's going to find Hunter's laptop?!?!?
    We don't really care about twitter...never have 
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    LittleTurd86, if you are worried you aren’t of sufficient douche caliber to earn an eternal ticket to hell, I’m here to say you have no worries, man.
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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 34,093
    Da-n, at a minimum try spell check.  Following that move over to the "wanna be relevant" queue.  No worries, more lines are available to get you to assistance.  
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • If anyone starts an AceNine troll account, it’s not me. 
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