Global Warming - Right & Wrong

WildmanWilson

JohnInCarolina said:

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WildmanWilson said:

A few quotes:

Quote from Club of Rome: “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill….All these dangers are caused by human intervention….and thus the “real enemy, then, is humanity itself….believe humanity requires a common motivation, namely a common adversary in order to realize world government. It does not matter if this common enemy is “a real one or….one invented for the purpose.”

Quote by Maurice Strong, a primary power behind UN throne: “Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”

Quote by Emma Brindal, a climate justice campaigner coordinator for Friends of the Earth: “A climate change response must have at its heart a redistribution of wealth and resources.”

Quote by David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!: “We must make this an insecure and inhospitable place for capitalists and their projects. We must reclaim the roads and plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of acres of presently settled land.”

Quote by Michael Oppenheimer, major environmentalist: “The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States. We can’t let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the US. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are.”

Quote by Sir John Houghton, first chairman of IPCC: “Unless we announce disasters, no one will listen.”

Quote by Stephen Schneider, Stanford Univ., environmentalist: “That, of course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have.”

Quote by Ted Turner, billionaire, founder of CNN and major UN donor: “A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”

Quote by Ross Gelbsan, former journalist: “Not only do journalists not have a responsibility to report what skeptical scientists have to say about global warming. They have a responsibility not to report what these scientists say.”

Quote by Christine Stewart, former Canadian Environment Minister: “No matter if the science is all phoney, there are collateral environmental benefits…. climate change [provides] the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world.”

Quote by Chris Folland of UK Meteorological Office: “The data don’t matter. We’re not basing our recommendations [for reductions in carbon dioxide emissions] upon the data. We’re basing them upon the climate models.”

Quote by David Frame, climate modeler, Oxford University: “Rather than seeing models as describing literal truth, we ought to see them as convenient fictions which try to provide something useful.”

Quote from Monika Kopacz, atmospheric scientist: “It is no secret that a lot of climate-change research is subject to opinion, that climate models sometimes disagree even on the signs of the future changes (e.g. drier vs. wetter future climate). The problem is, only sensational exaggeration makes the kind of story that will get politicians’ — and readers’ — attention. So, yes, climate scientists might exaggerate, but in today’s world, this is the only way to assure any political action and thus more federal financing to reduce the scientific uncertainty.”

Do you have any thoughts of your own, or do you just regurgitate what you find from Google?

https://www.c3headlines.com/global-warming-quotes-climate-change-quotes.html

I suppose you struggle with the concept of a quote. Or could it be you just hate seeing your puppet masters exposed. 

Maybe I should just post nine thousand Twitter links like you guys do. Lol. 

You still never answered anything I asked. 

caliking

JohnInCarolina said:

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caliking said:

JohnInCarolina said:

WildmanWilson said:

A few quotes:

Quote from Club of Rome: “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill….All these dangers are caused by human intervention….and thus the “real enemy, then, is humanity itself….believe humanity requires a common motivation, namely a common adversary in order to realize world government. It does not matter if this common enemy is “a real one or….one invented for the purpose.”

Quote by Maurice Strong, a primary power behind UN throne: “Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”

Quote by Emma Brindal, a climate justice campaigner coordinator for Friends of the Earth: “A climate change response must have at its heart a redistribution of wealth and resources.”

Quote by David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!: “We must make this an insecure and inhospitable place for capitalists and their projects. We must reclaim the roads and plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of acres of presently settled land.”

Quote by Michael Oppenheimer, major environmentalist: “The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States. We can’t let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the US. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are.”

Quote by Sir John Houghton, first chairman of IPCC: “Unless we announce disasters, no one will listen.”

Quote by Stephen Schneider, Stanford Univ., environmentalist: “That, of course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have.”

Quote by Ted Turner, billionaire, founder of CNN and major UN donor: “A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”

Quote by Ross Gelbsan, former journalist: “Not only do journalists not have a responsibility to report what skeptical scientists have to say about global warming. They have a responsibility not to report what these scientists say.”

Quote by Christine Stewart, former Canadian Environment Minister: “No matter if the science is all phoney, there are collateral environmental benefits…. climate change [provides] the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world.”

Quote by Chris Folland of UK Meteorological Office: “The data don’t matter. We’re not basing our recommendations [for reductions in carbon dioxide emissions] upon the data. We’re basing them upon the climate models.”

Quote by David Frame, climate modeler, Oxford University: “Rather than seeing models as describing literal truth, we ought to see them as convenient fictions which try to provide something useful.”

Quote from Monika Kopacz, atmospheric scientist: “It is no secret that a lot of climate-change research is subject to opinion, that climate models sometimes disagree even on the signs of the future changes (e.g. drier vs. wetter future climate). The problem is, only sensational exaggeration makes the kind of story that will get politicians’ — and readers’ — attention. So, yes, climate scientists might exaggerate, but in today’s world, this is the only way to assure any political action and thus more federal financing to reduce the scientific uncertainty.”

Do you have any thoughts of your own, or do you just regurgitate what you find from Google?

https://www.c3headlines.com/global-warming-quotes-climate-change-quotes.html

Screw you, JIC. I was *this* close to being impressed. 

It was the Club of Rome quote, wasn’t it?  People remember the Roman empire, and so they just take it for granted that the Club guys are the real deal.

Actually, it was the second one. Just thinking about “a primary power behind UN throne” gave me goosebumps. 

Legume

This is awesome - I didn’t know where the troll’s troll ran off to.  Vanquishing libs on other topics - a true renaissance person.

JohnInCarolina

caliking said:

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JohnInCarolina said:

caliking said:

JohnInCarolina said:

WildmanWilson said:

A few quotes:

Quote from Club of Rome: “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill….All these dangers are caused by human intervention….and thus the “real enemy, then, is humanity itself….believe humanity requires a common motivation, namely a common adversary in order to realize world government. It does not matter if this common enemy is “a real one or….one invented for the purpose.”

Quote by Maurice Strong, a primary power behind UN throne: “Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”

Quote by Emma Brindal, a climate justice campaigner coordinator for Friends of the Earth: “A climate change response must have at its heart a redistribution of wealth and resources.”

Quote by David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!: “We must make this an insecure and inhospitable place for capitalists and their projects. We must reclaim the roads and plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of acres of presently settled land.”

Quote by Michael Oppenheimer, major environmentalist: “The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States. We can’t let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the US. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are.”

Quote by Sir John Houghton, first chairman of IPCC: “Unless we announce disasters, no one will listen.”

Quote by Stephen Schneider, Stanford Univ., environmentalist: “That, of course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have.”

Quote by Ted Turner, billionaire, founder of CNN and major UN donor: “A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”

Quote by Ross Gelbsan, former journalist: “Not only do journalists not have a responsibility to report what skeptical scientists have to say about global warming. They have a responsibility not to report what these scientists say.”

Quote by Christine Stewart, former Canadian Environment Minister: “No matter if the science is all phoney, there are collateral environmental benefits…. climate change [provides] the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world.”

Quote by Chris Folland of UK Meteorological Office: “The data don’t matter. We’re not basing our recommendations [for reductions in carbon dioxide emissions] upon the data. We’re basing them upon the climate models.”

Quote by David Frame, climate modeler, Oxford University: “Rather than seeing models as describing literal truth, we ought to see them as convenient fictions which try to provide something useful.”

Quote from Monika Kopacz, atmospheric scientist: “It is no secret that a lot of climate-change research is subject to opinion, that climate models sometimes disagree even on the signs of the future changes (e.g. drier vs. wetter future climate). The problem is, only sensational exaggeration makes the kind of story that will get politicians’ — and readers’ — attention. So, yes, climate scientists might exaggerate, but in today’s world, this is the only way to assure any political action and thus more federal financing to reduce the scientific uncertainty.”

Do you have any thoughts of your own, or do you just regurgitate what you find from Google?

https://www.c3headlines.com/global-warming-quotes-climate-change-quotes.html

Screw you, JIC. I was *this* close to being impressed. 

It was the Club of Rome quote, wasn’t it?  People remember the Roman empire, and so they just take it for granted that the Club guys are the real deal.

Actually, it was the second one. Just thinking about “a primary power behind UN throne” gave me goosebumps. 

Just imagine my surprise at learning that I have a bunch of “puppet masters” - and that one of them - sits on a throne!

JohnInCarolina

dmchicago

JohnInCarolina said:

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caliking said:

JohnInCarolina said:

caliking said:

JohnInCarolina said:

WildmanWilson said:

A few quotes:

Quote from Club of Rome: “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill….All these dangers are caused by human intervention….and thus the “real enemy, then, is humanity itself….believe humanity requires a common motivation, namely a common adversary in order to realize world government. It does not matter if this common enemy is “a real one or….one invented for the purpose.”

Quote by Maurice Strong, a primary power behind UN throne: “Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”

Quote by Emma Brindal, a climate justice campaigner coordinator for Friends of the Earth: “A climate change response must have at its heart a redistribution of wealth and resources.”

Quote by David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!: “We must make this an insecure and inhospitable place for capitalists and their projects. We must reclaim the roads and plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of acres of presently settled land.”

Quote by Michael Oppenheimer, major environmentalist: “The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States. We can’t let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the US. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are.”

Quote by Sir John Houghton, first chairman of IPCC: “Unless we announce disasters, no one will listen.”

Quote by Stephen Schneider, Stanford Univ., environmentalist: “That, of course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have.”

Quote by Ted Turner, billionaire, founder of CNN and major UN donor: “A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”

Quote by Ross Gelbsan, former journalist: “Not only do journalists not have a responsibility to report what skeptical scientists have to say about global warming. They have a responsibility not to report what these scientists say.”

Quote by Christine Stewart, former Canadian Environment Minister: “No matter if the science is all phoney, there are collateral environmental benefits…. climate change [provides] the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world.”

Quote by Chris Folland of UK Meteorological Office: “The data don’t matter. We’re not basing our recommendations [for reductions in carbon dioxide emissions] upon the data. We’re basing them upon the climate models.”

Quote by David Frame, climate modeler, Oxford University: “Rather than seeing models as describing literal truth, we ought to see them as convenient fictions which try to provide something useful.”

Quote from Monika Kopacz, atmospheric scientist: “It is no secret that a lot of climate-change research is subject to opinion, that climate models sometimes disagree even on the signs of the future changes (e.g. drier vs. wetter future climate). The problem is, only sensational exaggeration makes the kind of story that will get politicians’ — and readers’ — attention. So, yes, climate scientists might exaggerate, but in today’s world, this is the only way to assure any political action and thus more federal financing to reduce the scientific uncertainty.”

Do you have any thoughts of your own, or do you just regurgitate what you find from Google?

https://www.c3headlines.com/global-warming-quotes-climate-change-quotes.html

Screw you, JIC. I was *this* close to being impressed. 

It was the Club of Rome quote, wasn’t it?  People remember the Roman empire, and so they just take it for granted that the Club guys are the real deal.

Actually, it was the second one. Just thinking about “a primary power behind UN throne” gave me goosebumps. 

Just imagine my surprise at learning that I have a bunch of “puppet masters” - and that one of them - sits on a throne!

Someone say throne?

paqman

🙄

fishlessman

duke professor by day......puppet master at night. action figures sold at the big green headquarters in atlanta

fishlessman

dont  know much about global warming and micro bursts, lightning strikes and how they all relate. we been getting our share lately at camp. first responders are out and about everywhere all over town, lightning hitting houses, starting fires all over. thursday we had what looked like a micro burst when i got to town, trees up to 3 foot plus diameter snapped off all over, the campground was hit hardest, 9 year girl died in the car when one of the trees crashed down. its not been normal at all. this stuff has been going on for about 2 weeks straight, nice sunny day then bammm

Legume

When fake global warming kills thousands of cows, Kansas just suspends the normal rules for disposal, bury them shallow and hope for the best!

Exclusive: Thousands of U.S. cattle buried, dumped at Kansas landfill
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-thousands-us-cattle-buried-dumped-kansas-landfill-after-deadly-2022-07-26/

fishlessman

well if they cant eat beef, let them eat fish.....that might not work out either

climate change served cold....with warm water

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/esnt/2022/nasa-funded-study-gulf-of-maine-phytoplankton-productivity-down

HeavyG

Legume said:

When fake global warming kills thousands of cows, Kansas just suspends the normal rules for disposal, bury them shallow and hope for the best!

Exclusive: Thousands of U.S. cattle buried, dumped at Kansas landfill
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-thousands-us-cattle-buried-dumped-kansas-landfill-after-deadly-2022-07-26/

"After you run them over they'll go flat, but they're gonna sponge back up,"

Am experiencing a mix of eeewwww and LOL.

Legume

HeavyG said:

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Legume said:

When fake global warming kills thousands of cows, Kansas just suspends the normal rules for disposal, bury them shallow and hope for the best!

Exclusive: Thousands of U.S. cattle buried, dumped at Kansas landfill
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-thousands-us-cattle-buried-dumped-kansas-landfill-after-deadly-2022-07-26/

"After you run them over they'll go flat, but they're gonna sponge back up,"

Am experiencing a mix of eeewwww and LOL.

Yeah, like driving on a waterbed.

JohnInCarolina

alaskanassasin

JohnInCarolina said:

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dmchicago said:

JohnInCarolina said:

And I know you were probably three sheets to the wind when you posted this  @Ozzie_Isaac , but the Daily Mail is not a great source of information on much of anything besides British celebrities wearing skimpy bathing suits on vacation. 

Do you have a link?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9823183/Molly-Mae-Hague-sets-pulses-soaring-white-skimpy-bikini-sultry-Ibiza-photoshoot.html

Don't say I never did anything for you, Dennis.  

 That link does not take you to skimpy bikini sultry.... wtf

WildmanWilson

Legume said:

When fake global warming kills thousands of cows, Kansas just suspends the normal rules for disposal, bury them shallow and hope for the best!

Exclusive: Thousands of U.S. cattle buried, dumped at Kansas landfill
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-thousands-us-cattle-buried-dumped-kansas-landfill-after-deadly-2022-07-26/

This is what I’m talking about. You people find a way to tie everything to global warming. It’s laughable. If you knew anything about farming practices and cattle you would know why it happened. Why didn’t all the cows in that state die at the same time? It’s easier to go to the default answer for a loyal lib. Lol. 

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/CharlesPPierce/status/1555246978136739841?s=20&t=70bpW_PvznC5AuMDbEOHmQ

Legume

JohnInCarolina said:

http://twitter.com/CharlesPPierce/status/1555246978136739841?s=20&t=70bpW_PvznC5AuMDbEOHmQ

Snakes don’t mix with scorpions?

WildmanWilson

JohnInCarolina said:

What’s that prove? Is the data accurate or been adjusted? What if you zoom out and see the trend over a much larger time range? Let’s say it is real… less than 1.5C and it’s going to kill everyone? Then lastly, how do you know it’s not a natural cycle? 

WildmanWilson

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WildmanWilson

JohnInCarolina said:

How will we be energy independent when we need China for much of the minerals and supplies for green energy?

The rain forest are being cut to make way for farming 

How is it sustainable? Panels and wind mills must be recycled if they can but at a high cost and be sent to landfills

Green jobs? Most will be overseas but still will not replace those of the fossil fuels. 

Livable cities? We see how well democrats run cities. Riots, poop in the streets, needles everywhere, high crime, garbage and poverty. It’s not the gas pump that’s the problem. 

Clean water? Have you seen what takes place to make one lithium battery? What happens when all this green garbage hits the landfill?

Healthy children? Most were pretty healthy but now that they are being jabbed for a virus that was released who knows?

Etc…this green energy scam is to make everyone ( other than the elites) equality miserable. It lowers the standards of living. It takes us from a cheap, very reliable energy source to one that the exact opposite.    Then the question that’s never answered. What’s the total cost and what’s the final results? How many trillions does it cost to lower the temperature one Celsius? Germany bet big on green energy. They  started shutting down most of their nuclear. They then became reliant on Russia for the national gas. Against Trumps warning. And now they are having to start coal plants up again. Notice it not green energy coming to the rescue. Live and learn. Although some are too stupid to learn. 

WildmanWilson

https://phys.org/news/2017-08-periods-20th-century-unprecedented-years.html

Yeah, it’s not uncommon. Chill out ! Pun intended. 

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/rudepundit/status/1556257505868742656?s=20&t=S03hhwwGAfakHRdoKP4T7g

AnothaStolenGenrator

TEXASBGE2018

AnothaStolenGenrator said:

I'm all for being more environmentally friendly but those solar panels are so butt ugly and cost so much that even with subsidies 95% of the Public can't afford them. Don't get me started on those pesky LED lightbulbs. They break within months of installing them. 

BigreenGreg

AnothaStolenGenrator said:

And I’ve noticed it’s been a much friendlier forum here as well.

AnothaStolenGenrator

TEXASBGE2018 said:

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AnothaStolenGenrator said:

I'm all for being more environmentally friendly but those solar panels are so butt ugly and cost so much that even with subsidies 95% of the Public can't afford them. 

Well I guess if solar has grown 39-fold in Texas, the bass boat guys of the world have more money than you appreciate.

fishlessman

Global warming is now fixed...
....no more chatter about it, sweet

Legume

Solar panels don’t work at night.

Botch

TEXASBGE2018 said:
...those solar panels are so butt ugly and cost so much that even with subsidies 95% of the Public can't afford them. Don't get me started on those pesky LED lightbulbs. They break within months of installing them. 

Solar panels are a lot less ugly than a coal-fueled power plant, and their costs keep going down.  
And most of my house is now LED, and I haven't had one burn out yet.    I did  have one of those Edison Fluorescents, and for some reason I saved the package with the 10-year Warrantee printed on the side, and the receipt, in my light bulb closet.  When it burned out after 5 years or so, I carefully boxed it up with the receipt and mailed it to them, asking for a replacement.  I didn't expect to hear from them (and I didn't) but I bet they did a double-take (provided they were even still in business).