Jan 6 Hearings

dmchicago

Legume

She just vomits gold.

fishlessman

https://youtu.be/CpGtBnVZLSk

littlerascal56

JohnInCarolina

DJT right now...

JohnInCarolina

Final report:

https://january6th.house.gov/sites/democrats.january6th.house.gov/files/Report_FinalReport_Jan6SelectCommittee.pdf

littlerascal56

So do have to wait for 845 pages to load to see this is a “nothing burger”? Nothing to see here. Lol
The Republican formal report was out this afternoon. Much more to see here.

nolaegghead

 littlerascal56 said:

So do have to wait for 845 pages to load to see this is a “nothing burger”? Nothing to see here. Lol
The Republican formal report was out this afternoon. Much more to see here.

Whatever editorial spin they have and whatever you believe to be true is irrelevant.  The Justice Department will weigh the evidence in the House report as well as their own investigations into the “patriots” (as you call them) that stormed the Capitol, and the threads of evidence between all the players to direct any criminal investigations.  If laws were broken, charges will be filed and, all the while, what you and anyone who isn’t an attorney for the Justice Department think, isn’t worth a squirt of piss.  

Sorry man.

lousubcap

The 845 pages load quickly.  The DOJ has been provided with a great majority of the information used to develop the report.  Read the executive summary.  It paints quite a da-ning picture with more testimony than offered in the public hearings.  
Time for the wheels of justice to continue to grind forward.  

JohnInCarolina

lousubcap said:

The 845 pages load quickly.  The DOJ has been provided with a great majority of the information used to develop the report.  Read the executive summary.  It paints quite a da-ning picture with more testimony than offered in the public hearings.  
Time for the wheels of justice to continue to grind forward.  

Several damning parts based on my read, not the least of which are all the clear attempts of witness tampering.  

nolaegghead

Reminder: Bill Barr is gone 

HeavyG

https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1606433022848684032

nolaegghead

Jack Smith has mop-up duty.

JohnInCarolina

HeavyG said:

https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1606433022848684032

Liz Cheney covered for a lot of Republicans in this, by making 99% of it about Trump.  The rot runs a bit deeper than that…

HeavyG

https://twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1605926809715216385

nolaegghead

HeavyG said:

https://twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1605926809715216385

Isn’t she married to Clayton Bigsby?

lousubcap

Here's a link to all the House Committee released material related to the January 6th hearings:
https://www.justsecurity.org/77022/january-6-clearinghouse/  

Canugghead

Predictions for this 1/6?

fishlessman

Canugghead said:

Predictions for this 1/6?

It's the day after 1/5 this year

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1611188678411296768?s=20&t=LbmVctvU7vSY5rX_PdCetg

fishlessman

happy 3 kings day. a shot each of Johnnie Walker,​ Jack Daniel's, and Jim Beam. 3 kings salute

lousubcap

From Tom Nichols of The Atlantic  (and like other defining days in my life (that is running out of hour glass sand), I will remember where I was...1/6/2021)

"...I reached out to Rosa Brooks today to explore that question. Brooks is one of the scholars who convened a group of experts and partisan operatives in late 2020 to game out the “worst thing that could happen to our country during the presidential elections.” She and her colleagues attracted a lot of snippy criticism at the time, but the events of January 6, 2021, proved their prescience. When I asked about her view of the worst that could have happened on that day, her scenario was chilling: She believes that had the rioters caught Vice President Mike Pence, or perhaps some members of Congress—such as the Democrats trapped in the House gallery at the time—they may well have been beaten or killed. “We know what happened to the police officers caught by the mob,” she told me. “Imagine if the mob had caught members of Congress.”

From there, Brooks suggested, more violence might have erupted, with more deaths. With Pence perhaps missing or incommunicado, there would have been no way to certify Biden’s victory, and Trump would have attempted to impose martial law.

Brooks’s most disheartening conclusion was that we escaped this disastrous possible outcome only by sheer luck. “I don’t think some sort of resilience in our system prevented that,” she said. “It wasn’t the supposed ‘guardrails of democracy’ that kept things from getting that bad—it was chance, plain and simple.”

I agree. We might be glad Pence stood firm at a key moment, but Pence had to be free—indeed, alive—to act. We might also comfort ourselves knowing that the clowns and opportunists who tried to overthrow our constitutional order have been outed by a thorough investigation in Congress. We can hope that justice is served, with prison sentences for some of the most dangerous seditionists and violent rioters. But is it enough? As the Capitol Police officer Harry Dunn tweeted this morning: “730 days later. We’re still waiting on accountability.”

Too many of the most important figures in the January 6 plot—and, as we know from the House investigation, it was indeed a plot, and not some random outbreak of violence—have escaped true accountability. From Trump on down to the group that the Washington Post writer Greg Sargent calls the “coup lawyers,” including John Eastman and Rudy Giuliani, we know their names. But severe consequences for such people have been rare.

Meanwhile, most of the Republicans who voted to overturn the election are still in Congress—or would be, if the House could get organized enough to swear them in. (At a ceremony at the Capitol today to mark the anniversary of the insurrection, only one Republican, apparently, bothered to show up.) The White House event to honor those who defended democracy took place at the same time that Representative Kevin McCarthy, just down the street at the Capitol, submitted himself for another few rounds of political bastinado, as the House, for the 12th and 13th times, failed to elect a speaker.

The anniversary of January 6 should remind us that the crisis of American democracy isn’t over, and that we should continue to take seriously what a close call we had in January 2021. (Exhibit A: Twitter’s new boss, the deeply unserious Elon Musk, trollishly chose today to reinstate the account of the disgraced Trump national security adviser Mike Flynn, the man who wanted the military to seize voting machines.)"

And here we are!

Botch

lousubcap said:

From Tom Nichols of The Atlantic... 

Brooks’s most disheartening conclusion was that we escaped this disastrous possible outcome only by sheer luck. “I don’t think some sort of resilience in our system prevented that,” she said. “It wasn’t the supposed ‘guardrails of democracy’ that kept things from getting that bad—it was chance, plain and simple.”

I'm not sure I can agree with this statement, on its face.  
There were many, many mobsters in the crowd that day who were fully armed, and yet to my knowledge none of them actually entered the Capitol.  They were standing by.  
And then, for some inexplicable reason, Traitor tweeted out to everyone, "We Love You, but stop, just go home", and they did.  Why that happened, when it did, I have no idea.  I still have no idea.  That wasn't "luck", but I have no idea what it was.  
The Congress was able to re-enter the Chambers and complete their Constitutional duty, that day.  That time.  
 
A few of the Talking Heads I follow have, today, pointed out the irony of, on the second Anniversary of that terrible day, our own HoR are deadlocked in choosing a House Speaker, by the very same traitors that supported The Traitor, all still free, in Congress, and allowed a voice.  F*ck me.  

Legume

Feck, it's contagious now.

Bolsonaro supporters storm Brazil's Congress  - https://www.npr.org/2023/01/08/1147757260/bolsonaro-supporters-storm-brazil-congress-lula

HeavyG

Putin's plan is working (except perhaps in Arizona at the moment).

https://twitter.com/LOLGOP/status/1612158631444713476

HeavyG

I see that Brazil has it's own shaman character.

https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1612213413601595398

Botch

HeavyG said:

Putin's plan is working (except perhaps in Arizona at the moment).

https://twitter.com/LOLGOP/status/1612158631444713476

Q:  Did anyone else notice the glaring difference between this and our own Jan 6?  

 
 
 
 
A:  Short sleeves (it was warmer outside)
 
    

The Cen-Tex Smoker

Thank goodness we finally have some sober-minded serious individuals looking into this. I mean, he is a dentist. 

nolaegghead

All who oppose are anti-dentites.

Canugghead

Legume said:

Feck, it's contagious now.

Bolsonaro supporters storm Brazil's Congress  - https://www.npr.org/2023/01/08/1147757260/bolsonaro-supporters-storm-brazil-congress-lula

why do you think the peaceful freedumb convoy in the GWN turned so ugly