Jan 6 Hearings

JohnInCarolina

That is true, Harris seems unlikely to be put in a position where she has to uphold the Constitution over the objection of her boss.

dmchicago

Hey Mr. “Huge” pension, go buy yourself some of this and stop talking about my man’s ****. 

HeavyG

https://twitter.com/LOLGOP/status/1553810256966344705

True dat.

CP92

As I sit here watching the news, the topic of voter distrust of elections in New Hampshire came up, which the individuals interviewed stated has never been an issue in the past. 

As I've stated before, I spent 24 years in the Navy. Those 24 years were all spent in the Intelligence Community. If you really want understand what is a contributing factor to this, do some "research" on Russia and their success in psychologic operations/propaganda; the short story being they are masters of it. That and any story involving Russia's use of a useful idiot. 

If you think anything about the 2016 investigation into former president Trump was "Russian Hoax", disregard any of the above. I'm sorry I wasted your time. 

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1554204595651596295?s=20&t=xMotJhrm50gHqQSHnbhgfg

fishlessman

CP92 said:

As I sit here watching the news, the topic of voter distrust of elections in New Hampshire came up, which the individuals interviewed stated has never been an issue in the past. 

As I've stated before, I spent 24 years in the Navy. Those 24 years were all spent in the Intelligence Community. If you really want understand what is a contributing factor to this, do some "research" on Russia and their success in psychologic operations/propaganda; the short story being they are masters of it. That and any story involving Russia's use of a useful idiot. 

If you think anything about the 2016 investigation into former president Trump was "Russian Hoax", disregard any of the above. I'm sorry I wasted your time. 

the voters in nh are not talking of voter fraud at all in nh, its just the few elected townies trying to push it from what i see up here. lots of talk from the old guys though about fraud in other states

The Cen-Tex Smoker

CP92 said:

As I sit here watching the news, the topic of voter distrust of elections in New Hampshire came up, which the individuals interviewed stated has never been an issue in the past. 

As I've stated before, I spent 24 years in the Navy. Those 24 years were all spent in the Intelligence Community. If you really want understand what is a contributing factor to this, do some "research" on Russia and their success in psychologic operations/propaganda; the short story being they are masters of it. That and any story involving Russia's use of a useful idiot. 

If you think anything about the 2016 investigation into former president Trump was "Russian Hoax", disregard any of the above. I'm sorry I wasted your time. 

Well, they did their own research on the internet so check mate to you.

It's amazing how the same people can be Vaccine experts one day, Russian Intelligence the next, Economists the next, Constitutional scholars on top of it all without ever leaving the comfort of their keyboards or televisions.

God forbid they crack a book or listen to the doctors, vaccine specialists, military intelligence officers and others we have right here. Even if they are conservative folks, if it does not match up to what they saw on Tucker or their Facebook feeds, you are the idiot and they are "informed" lol. 

Thanks for sharing. 

The Cen-Tex Smoker

To @CP92 point above: If you don't know who the useful idiot is...you are the useful idiot. 

Edit to add that useful idiot is on all sides of the political spectrum. This was not a shot at any particular group (other than idiots). There is every bit as much vaccine, social unrest, political misinformation directed at both sides. And both sides have taken a big 'ol bite off that apple. Russia, China, DPRK...they don't care about politics. They just want to divide us. 

I will tell you this, the fact that the Nazis and Antifa met in Charlottesville was no accident. They both got there the exact same way...misinformation on social media

The Cen-Tex Smoker

but, "there were good people...on both sides" (there is your useful idiot) 

The Cen-Tex Smoker

Pat Cipollone was just subpoenaed by the federal grand jury investigating Jan 6. It’s getting real now. 

Botch

First the Secret Service, now the DoD.  Dammit.  From todays WaPo:
 

Phones of top Pentagon officials were wiped of Jan. 6 messages

The DOD is the latest part of the federal government to have deleted official phone communications relevant to investigations into the events of the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol

Karoun Demirjian

The Pentagon erased a potential trove of material related to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol from the phones of senior defense officials in the Trump administration, according to legal filings.

Court records published on the website of the watchdog group American Oversight indicate that the Pentagon “wiped” the government-issued phones of senior Defense Department and Army officials who were in charge of mobilizing the National Guard to respond to the Capitol attack, including then-acting defense secretary Christopher C. Miller and then-Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy. The erasing apparently was done in keeping with Defense Department and Army policy for departing employees, according to filings that state: “the text messages were not preserved.”

On June 21, the Jan. 6 committee outlined a scheme supported by President Donald Trump to overturn the 2020 election. (Video: Adriana Usero/The Washington Post)

The admission comes as a blow not just to American Oversight’s efforts to unearth critical communications regarding the attack, but also to the House’s Jan. 6 special committee, which had asked Pentagon leaders to preserve and share all documents related to the riot. It also makes the Defense Department the latest known part of the federal government, including the Secret Service and other parts of the Department of Homeland Security, to have deleted records that could have helped investigators piece together what happened on Jan. 6 — and the degree to which President Donald Trump was responsible for delays in responding.

“From the reporting about the Secret Service and the senior DHS officials, it becomes pretty clear that this is not just a DOD problem, not just an Army problem, but multiagency,” said Dara Silvestre, a spokeswoman for American Oversight.

Secret Service cannot recover texts; no new details for Jan. 6 committee

On Tuesday, the group’s executive director, Heather Sawyer, appealed in a letter to Attorney General Merrick Garland to open an investigation into “DOD’s failure to preserve the text messages of several high-ranking officials on or surrounding the day of the Jan. 6 attack.”

“The apparent deletion of records from Jan. 6 by multiple agencies bolsters the need for a cross-agency investigation into the possible destruction of federal records,” the letter continued.

Last week, Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) sent a similar request to Garland, asking him to investigate the missing text messages from the Secret Service and the Department of Homeland Security.

A spokeswoman for the Justice Department declined to comment. A spokeswoman for the Army said: “It is our policy not to comment on ongoing litigation.”

A defense official, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue, said the deletions were just standard “process.”

“Nobody was trying to hide or conceal anything,” the official said. “That would be a false narrative.”

American Oversight’s case began as a series of Freedom of Information Act requests, filed with various government agencies less than a week after rioters inspired by Trump attacked the Capitol to try to prevent President Biden from being declared the winner of the 2020 election. Among the documents that were sought were text and Signal messages, Silvestre said. The deletions appear to have been conducted after the FOIA requests were filed.

Jan. 6 texts missing for Trump Homeland Security's Wolf and Cuccinelli

The Defense Department has produced a handful of heavily redacted emails, but no phone communications, according to the group.

The Pentagon’s admission that it had wiped the phones was included as part of a joint status report filed in March, but only publicized by American Oversight on Tuesday. Silvestre said that in the intervening months, the group has been trying to work with the agencies “to try to get them to release as much as possible,” as there are some phone records that are believed to have been preserved.

The suit is not only seeking records from former senior figures such as Miller and McCarthy. It also has asked for the phone communications of Gen. James McConville, the Army chief of staff, and Lt. Gen. Walter E. Piatt, director of the Army staff, who still work at the Pentagon and whose texts and secure messages should not have been deleted. According to court records, the Army began a search for those records last September, and another court filing updating the status of that search is expected next month.

JohnInCarolina

@Botch - sometimes it's the crime AND the coverup.

lousubcap

Clearly nothing to see here!!  Spineless...

Legume

Has the committee checked with Alex Jones’ attorney?

The Cen-Tex Smoker

Legume said:

Has the committee checked with Alex Jones’ attorney?

That dude knows where the texts are ha ha

Legume

Well, I just read that the cmte has now requested 2 years of Alex Jones’ texts from the attorney representing the Sandy Hook parents suing him.

What I really don’t get is who listens to this guy and buys crap from his website?

JohnInCarolina

Legume said:

Well, I just read that the cmte has now requested 2 years of Alex Jones’ texts from the attorney representing the Sandy Hook parents suing him.

What I really don’t get is who listens to this guy and buys crap from his website?

Based on what they were saying some of his daily earnings were for InfoWars, apparently it's a lot of people. 

As to who these people are, I have no idea.  I have yet to meet a big Alex Jones fan.  Of course, Alex Jones or InfoWars fans probably don't talk about it in public for fear of being compromised by the globalists or some such nonsense.  Maybe our very own Wyatt Derp knows some of these people, I dunno.  

lousubcap

The latest:
"Former President Donald Trump's legal team is in direct communication with Justice Department officials concerning their criminal probe into the Jan. 6 attack. The Trump team's discussions are with the U.S. attorney's office in Washington, DC, which is in charge of the investigation, and its top Jan. 6 prosecutor Thomas Windom. According to sources familiar with the matter, the talks are currently focused on whether any communications that witnesses from the Trump West Wing had with the former President can be kept from a federal criminal grand jury under Trump’s claims of executive privilege. The issue has arisen as grand jury subpoenas have been issued to two former White House counsel's office officials and to former Vice President Mike Pence's chief counsel and chief of staff. Katelyn Polantz, Kara Scannell, Gabby Orr and Kristen Holmes report for CNN. "

The Cen-Tex Smoker

CPAC Hired an actor to play a jailed January 6th insurrectionist. 

 

dmchicago

About a half hour?

I have bowel movements that take longer. 

No weeping, tho. 

HeavyG

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1556066429266497536

JohnInCarolina

It’s definitely not a cult…

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1556269468560625667?s=20&t=iK90nWsWLj02dIFBMKVvcQ

LOL

caliking

yes. @littlerascal56 is right.

BuckeyeFork

You guys just keep floating the weak man’s narrative. So much fear. #wolvesnotsheep

AnothaStolenGenrator

BuckeyeFork said:

You guys just keep floating the weak man’s narrative. So much fear. #wolvesnotsheep

Oh great another Proud Boy wannabe.

The Cen-Tex Smoker

AnothaStolenGenrator said:

BuckeyeFork said:

You guys just keep floating the weak man’s narrative. So much fear. #wolvesnotsheep

Oh great another Proud Boy wannabe.

Just ignore him. He just wants attention. 

dbCooper

Last Fall, on a flight home from FL, passenger seated in the row ahead of us was wearing a T-shirt with that slogan.  Being familiar with canines and their wolf ancestors we got a chuckle from it.  In the hierarchy of packs there is only one "top dog" and the rest are the sheep.

We saw no point in enlightening that passenger.

BuckeyeFork

Keep bleating, it lets me know where you are.

caliking

BuckeyeFork said:

Keep bleating, it lets me know where you are.

You should put that on a tshirt for the next MAGAt party