hows those gas prices

Gulfcoastguy

HeavyG said:

Gulfcoastguy said:

fishlessman said:

found it at 16.2 cents with a 4 year lock in, anyone see the price dropping over 4 years. its like blackmail, no it is blackmail

I would grab it. It’s hard to see the DC Clown Posse 🤡 doing anything sensible for at least 3 years.

The New England states have always been among the most expensive for electricity rates.

Hard to see what federal policies can/will/should do to change that.

Environmental permits to build pipelines to carry natural gas from the source to the need. A pipeline to export West  Virginia gas to the market was supposed to be Manchin’s price for the IRA vote. He should have gotten it in writing pre stamped by the federal agency before he voted. He got bupkiss.

HeavyG

Gulfcoastguy said:

HeavyG said:

Gulfcoastguy said:

fishlessman said:

found it at 16.2 cents with a 4 year lock in, anyone see the price dropping over 4 years. its like blackmail, no it is blackmail

I would grab it. It’s hard to see the DC Clown Posse 🤡 doing anything sensible for at least 3 years.

The New England states have always been among the most expensive for electricity rates.

Hard to see what federal policies can/will/should do to change that.

Environmental permits to build pipelines to carry natural gas from the source to the need. A pipeline to export West  Virginia gas to the market was supposed to be Manchin’s price for the IRA vote. He should have gotten it in writing pre stamped by the federal agency before he voted. He got bupkiss.

Why would anyone want to build a pipeline to transport gas from WV to New England when Pennsylvania, which is significantly closer, already produces five times as much gas as WV?

Gulfcoastguy

Regardless it isn’t getting piped to New England from wherever.

fishlessman

its dogooders and tiny states. the corridors were widened already to add the hydro electricity, 124 miles of 145 miles done. somehow adding more power next to an existing power line is bad for the environment and conservation in maine. it feeds into an existing new england grid, the glitch is that new england grid feeds into massachusetts, the deal was between mass and canada, maine dont like out of staters (the state that makes a living off tourists). its run by central maine power whos based in massachusetts, first thing after last years vote to stop the new lines cpm doubled the rates in maine, will most likely double them again this winter. (half the project is done, somebody has to pay up the 1/2 billion thats already been spent.

guess we just put in a 1/2 billion dollar off road trail

Gulfcoastguy

Yes I testified for years to obtain land for an elevated roadway from a port to an interstate. The Powers That Be didn’t like that they couldn’t put gas stations, Mickey Dees, and red lights at every intersection. They got a minority subdivision to go to court and got federal courts to block a federal project that a sizable chunk of a billion had already been spent on. I think my comment was I hope that you enjoy the banana trucks grinding on the highway. This is all public record except for my comment.

fishlessman

Gulfcoastguy said:

Yes I testified for years to obtain land for an elevated roadway from a port to an interstate. The Powers That Be didn’t like that they couldn’t put gas stations, Mickey Dees, and red lights at every intersection. They got a minority subdivision to go to court and got federal courts to block a federal project that a sizable chunk of a billion had already been spent on. I think my comment was I hope that you enjoy the banana trucks grinding on the highway. This is all public record except for my comment.

a few towns over we paid for two big nuke plants. we got one working plant and tons of spare parts from the second one. then people went insane when they received their bill

HeavyG

fishlessman said:

Gulfcoastguy said:

Yes I testified for years to obtain land for an elevated roadway from a port to an interstate. The Powers That Be didn’t like that they couldn’t put gas stations, Mickey Dees, and red lights at every intersection. They got a minority subdivision to go to court and got federal courts to block a federal project that a sizable chunk of a billion had already been spent on. I think my comment was I hope that you enjoy the banana trucks grinding on the highway. This is all public record except for my comment.

a few towns over we paid for two big nuke plants. we got one working plant and tons of spare parts from the second one. then people went insane when they received their bill

Can you blame them? They all still believed this statement from the 1950's:

fishlessman

the parts for the second dome

Gulfcoastguy

Well at least they have spare parts for the first one on hand. My state has two nuclear power plants. All of the power is sold out of state.

HeavyG

fishlessman said:

the parts for the second dome

Guarded by "top men"!

nolaegghead

fishlessman said:

the parts for the second dome

Cool, everything is in Hanger 51! 

SamIAm2

nolaegghead said:

fishlessman said:

the parts for the second dome

Cool, everything is in Hanger 51! 

Warehouse13 possibly?

fishlessman

nolaegghead said:

fishlessman said:

the parts for the second dome

Cool, everything is in Hanger 51! 

the actual one i wish i did the metal shelving, i could have retired making shelves. all sandblasted white and epoxy painted. color coded for specific parts. whole place is climate/humidity controlled. thats how you store 300 billion dollars worth of parts in a salt marsh

JohnInCarolina

Now below what it was a year ago.

fishlessman

i will hit the agree button when diesels not about 40 percent higher than a year ago

fishlessman

its good to see new england playing its part to keep the national average high

JohnInCarolina

fishlessman said:

its good to see new england playing its part to keep the national average high

Is that legit the cheapest gas near you?

fishlessman

JohnInCarolina said:

fishlessman said:

its good to see new england playing its part to keep the national average high

Is that legit the cheapest gas near you?

I can get it for ten cents less at mobile. That BP price is for cash, it's ten cents more if you put it on a card.   The bigger pain is kerosene, I'm buying it in mass 15 gallons a week and pouring it into the tank up north, I might keep that tank mostly empty as I expect the oil to get stolen this winter with the seasonal camps

nolaegghead

fishlessman said:

JohnInCarolina said:

fishlessman said:

its good to see new england playing its part to keep the national average high

Is that legit the cheapest gas near you?

I can get it for ten cents less at mobile. That BP price is for cash, it's ten cents more if you put it on a card.   The bigger pain is kerosene, I'm buying it in mass 15 gallons a week and pouring it into the tank up north, I might keep that tank mostly empty as I expect the oil to get stolen this winter with the seasonal camps

Jeeze man, it’s like you live in medieval times.

fishlessman

I just need to retire and burn wood. Can't get a tank of kerosene and there's just the one electric co in town and they seem to know it

nolaegghead

Vote for a better local government.  What you are experiencing is unregulated capitolism.

Gulfcoastguy

Actually State gas tax prices could have a little to do with it.

nolaegghead

Gulfcoastguy said:

Actually State gas tax prices could have a little to do with it.

Sure, $0.24 per gallon.  Gas would be practically free if they eliminated it.

HeavyG

Gulfcoastguy said:

Actually State gas tax prices could have a little to do with it.

A little is correct. MA has a gas tax that is just a few cents per gallon more than LA. So what's a gallon of regular in LA these days - $2.90-ish? Guessing that $0.04 more per gallon gas tax in MA isn't a big contributor to the dollar more per gallon.

nolaegghead

Wish we had a civil engineer here that could advocate for gas tax to keep the roads and bridges tip top…

Gulfcoastguy

nolaegghead said:

Wish we had a civil engineer here that could advocate for gas tax to keep the roads and bridges tip top…

I generally do. Just pointing out some variations do exist. Being right next to the oil wells and refineries seems to result in lower prices also.

nolaegghead

That is true.  Cheap gas in Cancer Alley 

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1601180691819266050?s=20&t=B1iewoxYPGzL-Nec4OjaLQ

alaskanassasin

cant you get K1 delivered to you camp? @fishlessman

fishlessman

alaskanassasin said:

cant you get K1 delivered to you camp? @fishlessman

the call-in customers are shut off with the shortage and the local fillup up stations wont fill their main tanks because of the prices with the shortage here. its over 7 a gallon if i could get it delivered and they are saying it might go to 11 this winter. last winter it was somewhere around 4 a gallon.  i dont use much, house is set for 54 degrees, if i want it warmer theres the wood stove.