Jealous Devil Charcoal

stlcharcoal

wps456 said:

4TheGrillOfIt said:

Seriously, though, Rockwood does seem to overfill.  Their 20 lb bag doesn’t short change on weight.

That's because it's actually full of charcoal and not rocks, nails, etc.. Some of the other bags would seem full if they just put charcoal in them.

You'll find the occasional rock, chunk of kiln, etc in ours too.....there's no way to screen that stuff out without floating it over a water bath or x-raying it.  There's a huge magnet to hopefully catch the nails, barbed wire, bullets, banding, etc, but if it's wedged into a piece of charcoal then it's probably not going to grab them.  Since we get all the off cuts and knotty pieces, that's usually why the knot formed around the foreign object.....thus they can't use it in the mill so it goes for charcoal.

There's at least an extra half pound in every 20# bag to cover any of this, or scale error.

The reason that picture looks like the bag is bigger is because it is.  Two reasons......some competitor's bags are not 20#, they're 17.6#.  Also ours is carbonized more so the bulk density is less.  Carbon is lighter than water & wood fiber, so the higher the carbon content, the larger the volume.  20# of firewood or charred wood / poorly carbonized "charcoal" are much heavier by volume because they're full of water and wood fiber; 20# briquettes are heavier by volume because they're full of limestone and water.  Buy by BTU/#, not just #.

ROlin

Be careful, the devil is watching

Ybabpmuts

@stlcharcoal

Well, that makes much more sense than anything I was gonna say, that's for sure. 

StumpBaby

JohnInCarolina

ROlin said:

Be careful, the devil is watching

alaskanassasin

Ybabpmuts said:

@stlcharcoal

Well, that makes much more sense than anything I was gonna say, that's for sure. 

StumpBaby

 How can they give us the agree button, remove it, dangle it in front of us and never follow through on its return?

nolaegghead

Saw a 20# bag of JD at Home Despot today for $24.  I laughed and shook my head.

YukonRon

I started out with BGE branded charcoal, quickly learning it was the same as Royal Oak. Used it for a while, but came to the understanding of the term “blissfully ignorant” after I used Rockwood the very first time.

The difference is night and day for me. In fact, I may still have a partial bag of BGE in my garage that has not been used since the arrival of my very first bag of RW. I have since gone through a s/l of Rockwood, and have turned many others in my neighborhood and business associates onto it as well.

I have tried others in the quest for the “holy grail” of lump, but found nothing here in the USA at any level that would sway me from RW. Trust me when I tell you this, I have tried to find the best. RW meets or exceeds every single time.

The only one I enjoyed as well or maybe just a bit better, was from a lump charcoal supplier from Japan I bought while My Beautiful Wife and I were in France. Is was Binchotan, and 100% oak, expensive as heck, and took a bit to get lit. It was around 80-85 euros at the time for 6-8 pieces sold as logs. But these logs were used every night for a week, burned clean, and very hot. After a week of cooking on a hand operated bellows grill, there was still a very nice amount still left, that would have done several more cooks.

Just looked it up, Amazon has it for around $86.00/ 4.1 pound bag US. 

This is a better descriptive to what I have mentioned:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binch%C5%8Dtan

Rockwood has been the staple at our house for so long, My Beautiful Wife and our children are the first to point out when we are down to 5 bags or so. Their alarm is my alarm.

RyanStl

I love me a good old fashioned charcoal thread, especially when it gets heated.

Canugghead

...and hated. 🤣

caliking

RyanStl said:

I love me a good old fashioned charcoal thread, especially when it gets heated.

 if you really want to light it up, you need to start a thread about the best method for lighting charcoal. 

fishlessman

caliking said:

RyanStl said:

I love me a good old fashioned charcoal thread, especially when it gets heated.

 if you really want to light it up, you need to start a thread about the best method for lighting charcoal. 

Obviously it's a mapp gas handgrenade

JohnInCarolina

fishlessman said:

caliking said:

RyanStl said:

I love me a good old fashioned charcoal thread, especially when it gets heated.

 if you really want to light it up, you need to start a thread about the best method for lighting charcoal. 

Obviously it's a mapp gas handgrenade

I beg to differ:

alaskanassasin

I buy pre lit charcoal, saves time that way

Ybabpmuts

"I buy pre lit charcoal, saves time that way"

Jeesh .. How far in advance are you planning your party that you're getting prelit charcoal for it? Honestly, I'd be insulted if I was the charcoal guy, and I spent hours burning that $h!t once, and then you ask me to burn it again, right before I get it to you ..my lord ...  because .. what? .. Wait, .. you screwed up the brine again ...  didn't you ... didnt' t you .... Jeesh MAN .. corporate made us take a WHOLE class on brine ... what the hell? You know ... I thought you were friggin' nodding off .... this is what I get for not hitting you with a heavy spoon.  $H!t ...$h!t $h!t

Ybabpmuts 

MasterC

Carry on

TEXASBGE2018

ROlin said:

Be careful, the devil is watching

Thanks for buying an M1 grill from my wife's cousin. He's the owner of the company. Also jealous devil charcoal sucks. 

Ybabpmuts

Isn't that a coincidence .. I was just about to post and thank him for buying a 1M from my cousins wife. She's the owner of the company. And uh .. by the way .. "Also Jealous Devil Charcoal Sucks" sounds like someone needs a lesson or two at picking halfway decent band names. The first lesson is that you never start a band name with "Also" ...   because then the conversation becomes ALLLLL about the "Also" and the actual music fades into the background, next thing you know ... your band is selling jingles on the internet for things like toilet wands and lipsticks bombs (I may have gotten them mixed up, I am a stump after all). The second lesson is that you never end a bands name with "sucks' because the kids couldn't wear the tshirts to school and that's a lot of advertising dollars left on the table. 

Ybabpmuts 

Ybabpmuts

My whole point was this ..

Jealous Devil Charcoal ... is a great band name. T-shirt sales through the roof 

Ybabpmuts

nolaegghead

Yarp

Ybabpmuts

That's pray backwards right?

Ybabpmuts

nolaegghead

Buckwoody Egger

Just saw JD 20lb bags of XL lump at Home Depot for $25 and they were the normal string top paper bags. Had a good laugh!!!  Royal oak 15lb for $15.  Like I said I am mostly Rockwood exclusive and prefer it— use Ace coupons — but would give this JD paper bag a shot on a whim.  The bags today looked a little flat from supply chain and I am otherwise stocked up. Anyone tried this jd xl version?  If it is like KJ big block (which i have not enjoyed) I will skip it.  It’s Paraguay and the RO is USA.  

ROlin

Thanks for all the kind comments on my M1. It just loves JD Lump. But, yesterday I got a bag of ax breaker lump that says Green Eggy on it. So, I fired up some in the M1 grilled a Wagyu Bavette & not to bad of a charcoal. Long round stick like pieces. You know what Lump Charcoal should look like. Instead of window frame pieces & bark cuttings. Like brand "b's" uses. You eggers should give this charcoal a shot. It says Green Egg on it, doesn't it?
$17 for 17.5 lbs. Prices like you guys like. Its not the devil but a great fill in charcoal. Would love to give their Sugar Maple a shot. Can not find it anywhere. And remember USA lump has been nuked over & over from fallout. That's why it lights faster & sparks faster. LOL Its best to get your lump out of non-radiated forest. Just saying for a friend anyway. 

4TheGrillOfIt

I am really going to hate to see this thread fade down the list.  *bump*

Dr_GreenThumb

I like JD, but now need to check out the Rockwood brand...

kanye_twitty

This place is so great ha ha.

Ybabpmuts

I always go to the most radiated forests for my lump. It worked when I went looking for a two headed wife. Now, we can french kiss and she can check me for extra ear wax at the same time, a real time saver in the morning. Unfortunately, she eats twice as many fruit loops as I'd hoped she would. There's always a trade off somewhere I guess.

Ybabpmuts 

YukonRon

Ybabpmuts said:

I always go to the most radiated forests for my lump. It worked when I went looking for a two headed wife. Now, we can french kiss and she can check me for extra ear wax at the same time, a real time saver in the morning. Unfortunately, she eats twice as many fruit loops as I'd hoped she would. There's always a trade off somewhere I guess.

Ybabpmuts 

Not sure my Ofo has kicked in enough to understand this. Try another Ofo, and reread. See what happens.

Canugghead

stlcharcoal said:

wps456 said:

4TheGrillOfIt said:

Seriously, though, Rockwood does seem to overfill.  Their 20 lb bag doesn’t short change on weight.

That's because it's actually full of charcoal and not rocks, nails, etc.. Some of the other bags would seem full if they just put charcoal in them.

You'll find the occasional rock, chunk of kiln, etc in ours too.....there's no way to screen that stuff out without floating it over a water bath or x-raying it.  There's a huge magnet to hopefully catch the nails, barbed wire, bullets, banding, etc, but if it's wedged into a piece of charcoal then it's probably not going to grab them.  Since we get all the off cuts and knotty pieces, that's usually why the knot formed around the foreign object.....thus they can't use it in the mill so it goes for charcoal.

There's at least an extra half pound in every 20# bag to cover any of this, or scale error.

The reason that picture looks like the bag is bigger is because it is.  Two reasons......some competitor's bags are not 20#, they're 17.6#.  Also ours is carbonized more so the bulk density is less.  Carbon is lighter than water & wood fiber, so the higher the carbon content, the larger the volume.  20# of firewood or charred wood / poorly carbonized "charcoal" are much heavier by volume because they're full of water and wood fiber; 20# briquettes are heavier by volume because they're full of limestone and water.  Buy by BTU/#, not just #.

@alaskanassasin

alaskanassasin

I thought i read it somewhere not making a big deal here lol.

bgebrent said:

Plated picture is money.  Jonathan has previously said he fills to approximately 22#.  Sounds like you got a bonus bag.

stlcharcoal said:

I said our bags are 1/2 to 1.0# over, then the paper weighs about a pound.  So we're gonna need those extra 3# back!