Inflation hits

JohnInCarolina

Ozzie_Isaac said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

I understand that this was mocked because people thought CNN was trying to suggest that setting fires is still peaceful, but that's not actually what happened.   The reporter shown there actually said that there had been peaceful protests earlier in the day, but that those stood in contrast to the scenes unfolding behind him.  

But that doesn't jive with the narrative, so... keep on keepin on.  

Pretty sure the tagline says all anyone needs to know.  This is a screen capture.  That is what CNN chose to display.  In many places CNN is on in the background with no audio.  Airport, Dr. Office, Shopping Center, etc.

You mean just like everyone knew KR was a murderer after the first news reports?

JohnInCarolina

Sometimes people see what they want to see.  The truth isn’t always so black and white.  Confirmation bias is a heckofa drug.

Ozzie_Isaac

JohnInCarolina said:

Sometimes people see what they want to see.  The truth isn’t always so black and white.  Confirmation bias is a heckofa drug.

I think we are closer to believing the same than you might think.

My point was "News" is and always has been entertainment first.  This is not a new development.

JohnInCarolina

Ozzie_Isaac said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Sometimes people see what they want to see.  The truth isn’t always so black and white.  Confirmation bias is a heckofa drug.

I think we are closer to believing the same than you might think.

My point was "News" is and always has been entertainment first.  This is not a new development.

That’s certainly why I don’t watch it.  

My point was only that the screencap in isolation paints a misleading picture of what the network was actually reporting at the time.  I don’t much care for CNN but fair is fair.

pgprescott

nolaegghead said:

Laws are prosecuted in criminal court, stupidity is prosecuted in civil court. 

I could be wrong but I think that civil court reckoning is gonna be a bigger disappointment to the upset group than the criminal trial. Those who watched won’t be surprised. Those who watched the MSM will be shocked. 

kl8ton

Johnny Cash had some great insight. 

Don't take your guns to town. 

Tombstone too...

No one is saying you can't own a gun.  No one is saying you can't carry a gun.  We're just saying you can't carry a gun in town!  - paraphrased from memory. 

nolaegghead

pgprescott said:

nolaegghead said:

Laws are prosecuted in criminal court, stupidity is prosecuted in civil court. 

I could be wrong but I think that civil court reckoning is gonna be a bigger disappointment to the upset group than the criminal trial. Those who watched won’t be surprised. Those who watched the MSM will be shocked. 

I'm not going to try to prognosticate on a civil case or the degree to which anyone is disappointed or surprised, but the burden of proof that civil plaintiffs need to make can simply be by a preponderance of evidence rather than beyond a reasonable doubt.  They only need to prove negligence...did his conduct fall below the standard of care than an average person would exhibit? 

KR admitted himself that in hindsight bringing an open carry long gun into a chaotic mess was a mistake, and obviously the average person doesn't do that.

Also, in a civil court, the type of evidence that is admissible, in his case his consumption of internet and social media activity which was suppressed in the criminal trial, is fair game.  With all the bars lowered, what is amazing is how you're so sure about the results of that which hasn't happened will happen.

pgprescott

nolaegghead said:

pgprescott said:

nolaegghead said:

Laws are prosecuted in criminal court, stupidity is prosecuted in civil court. 

I could be wrong but I think that civil court reckoning is gonna be a bigger disappointment to the upset group than the criminal trial. Those who watched won’t be surprised. Those who watched the MSM will be shocked. 

I'm not going to try to prognosticate on a civil case or the degree to which anyone is disappointed or surprised, but the burden of proof that civil plaintiffs need to make can simply be by a preponderance of evidence rather than beyond a reasonable doubt.  They only need to prove negligence...did his conduct fall below the standard of care than an average person would exhibit? 

KR admitted himself that in hindsight bringing an open carry long gun into a chaotic mess was a mistake, and obviously the average person doesn't do that.

Also, in a civil court, the type of evidence that is admissible, in his case his consumption of internet and social media activity which was suppressed in the criminal trial, is fair game.  With all the bars lowered, what is amazing is how you're so sure about the results of that which hasn't happened will happen.

Agreed, but all those issues cut both ways. He shot people actively engaged in trying to harm or kill him. None of them was and innocent bystander that would maybe have a case. They were engaged in negligence themselves. But hey, we will see. 

The msm people who slandered their kid and continue to this day reporting demonstrably false information that is harmful to him are going to pay. Bigly! 

I’ll bet you an NA beer that he never pays a cent and receives millions. 

littlerascal56

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

I understand that this was mocked because people thought CNN was trying to suggest that setting fires is still peaceful, but that's not actually what happened.   The reporter shown there actually said that there had been peaceful protests earlier in the day, but that those stood in contrast to the scenes unfolding behind him.  

But that doesn't jive with the narrative, so... keep on keepin on.  

Pretty sure the tagline says all anyone needs to know.  This is a screen capture.  That is what CNN chose to display.  In many places CNN is on in the background with no audio.  Airport, Dr. Office, Shopping Center, etc.

You mean just like everyone knew KR was a murderer after the first news reports?

And that he was a white supremacist.  That has to be true, since our fearless leader said it!  Joe would never lie.😜  

Gulfcoastguy

https://www.npr.org/2021/11/20/1057571558/what-we-know-3-men-kyle-rittenhouse-victims-rosenbaum-huber-grosskreutz

nolaegghead

Gulfcoastguy said:

https://www.npr.org/2021/11/20/1057571558/what-we-know-3-men-kyle-rittenhouse-victims-rosenbaum-huber-grosskreutz

That's a good example of unbiased reporting.

nolaegghead

littlerascal56 said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

I understand that this was mocked because people thought CNN was trying to suggest that setting fires is still peaceful, but that's not actually what happened.   The reporter shown there actually said that there had been peaceful protests earlier in the day, but that those stood in contrast to the scenes unfolding behind him.  

But that doesn't jive with the narrative, so... keep on keepin on.  

Pretty sure the tagline says all anyone needs to know.  This is a screen capture.  That is what CNN chose to display.  In many places CNN is on in the background with no audio.  Airport, Dr. Office, Shopping Center, etc.

You mean just like everyone knew KR was a murderer after the first news reports?

And that he was a white supremacist.  That has to be true, since our fearless leader said it!  Joe would never lie.😜  

He didn't say it but he implied it on a couple occasions and I think that was wrong to do unless there was direct evidence that he was self-proclaimed of affiliated with one of those groups.

pgprescott

nolaegghead said:

littlerascal56 said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

I understand that this was mocked because people thought CNN was trying to suggest that setting fires is still peaceful, but that's not actually what happened.   The reporter shown there actually said that there had been peaceful protests earlier in the day, but that those stood in contrast to the scenes unfolding behind him.  

But that doesn't jive with the narrative, so... keep on keepin on.  

Pretty sure the tagline says all anyone needs to know.  This is a screen capture.  That is what CNN chose to display.  In many places CNN is on in the background with no audio.  Airport, Dr. Office, Shopping Center, etc.

You mean just like everyone knew KR was a murderer after the first news reports?

And that he was a white supremacist.  That has to be true, since our fearless leader said it!  Joe would never lie.😜  

He didn't say it but he implied it on a couple occasions and I think that was wrong to do unless there was direct evidence that he was self-proclaimed of affiliated with one of those groups.

Well put.

 Unfortunately many others did say it and much more that was demonstrably false and repeated it even after no reasonable person should have done so. 

Eggdicted_Dawgfan

It will be interesting to see how the next protests/riots play out. Will there be more shots fired? Less shots fired? More buildings burned or less buildings burned? Time will tell.

Gulfcoastguy

nolaegghead said:

Gulfcoastguy said:

https://www.npr.org/2021/11/20/1057571558/what-we-know-3-men-kyle-rittenhouse-victims-rosenbaum-huber-grosskreutz

That's a good example of unbiased reporting.

And that NPR article mentions their criminal and mental health records. Imagine what a defense lawyer will say about that in a civil court.

caliking

Is it easier to justify killing them, because they had criminal records, and a history of mental health problems?

Eggdicted_Dawgfan

I think so. Because that makes it easier to believe they were going to kill him and not just rough him up. If they had no record and weren’t mentally unstable then it seems it would be much more possible they just planned to rough him up. 

caliking

That's a good example of a slippery slope. 

Eggdicted_Dawgfan

I agree. It could very well be a slippery slope. Could there be some law changes on the horizon? 

Eggdicted_Dawgfan

No matter your view on the case, I think it has opened the door for an interesting show at the next major protest/riot event.

JohnInCarolina

Eggdicted_Dawgfan said:

No matter your view on the case, I think it has opened the door for an interesting show at the next major protest/riot event.

I’m sure the networks are all excited about the ratings spike.

Ozzie_Isaac

JohnInCarolina said:

Eggdicted_Dawgfan said:

No matter your view on the case, I think it has opened the door for an interesting show at the next major protest/riot event.

I’m sure the networks are all excited about the ratings spike.

Next reality TV show.  Follow around George Soros' professional protestors.

Battleborn

The more interesting case is the current school shooting. Parents buy kid a gun, kid kills classmates at school, parents end up getting charged (rightly so IMHO), now parents beat feet and are on the run. 

Canugghead

Disclaimer: All opinions contained in this post are not intended to offend anyone from the Midwest, former/current bankers or anyone over the age 70. 

I think I may know someone who meets all the criteria 

Battleborn

Canugghead said:

Disclaimer: All opinions contained in this post are not intended to offend anyone from the Midwest, former/current bankers or anyone over the age 70. 

I think I may know someone who meets all the criteria 

Have no idea what you are talking about. Standard disclaimer. 

Ozzie_Isaac

Battleborn said:

The more interesting case is the current school shooting. Parents buy kid a gun, kid kills classmates at school, parents end up getting charged (rightly so IMHO), now parents beat feet and are on the run. 

💯 Agree on this.  Very weird situation, especially since gun was bought Friday prior to shooting.  I am curious to learn the facts behind this.  Surface info looks really really bad.

Botch

Ozzie_Isaac said:

Battleborn said:

The more interesting case is the current school shooting. Parents buy kid a gun, kid kills classmates at school, parents end up getting charged (rightly so IMHO), now parents beat feet and are on the run.  

💯 Agree on this.  Very weird situation, especially since gun was bought Friday prior to shooting.  I am curious to learn the facts behind this.  Surface info looks really really bad.

Phone records showed that, when school admin called his folks about him searching for ammo on his phone, his mom texted her son something like, "LOL, I'm not mad at you, you just need to be more careful".
WTF.  

Gulfcoastguy

Was he using school wifi? Or just how did the school know that he was searching for ammo on his phone?

Legume

Gulfcoastguy said:

Was he using school wifi? Or just how did the school know that he was searching for ammo on his phone?

I read (in the mainstream media) that a teacher saw his phone.

JohnInCarolina

I’ll just leave this here:

https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1467197523127422979?s=20