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OT - For Car Lovers: Some Recent Exotic Spottings

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  • saluki2007
    saluki2007 Posts: 6,354
    @Ozzie_Isaac
    Did you purchase this?  https://www.carscoops.com/2022/12/one-off-dodge-viper-from-asc-has-a-mclaren-tuned-v10/amp/
    Large and Small BGE
    Central, IL

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  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 16,199
    I asked her how they got Vegan Leather, and she told me it came from Vegan Cows.  She was dead serious and was offended by my laughing.  I asked her how that was different from a regular cow.
    We-e-ell, most cows start out drinking milk... [/geek mode]  
    ___________

    "When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set."

    - Lin Yutang


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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 20,495
    saluki2007 said:
    @Ozzie_Isaac
    Did you purchase this?  https://www.carscoops.com/2022/12/one-off-dodge-viper-from-asc-has-a-mclaren-tuned-v10/amp/
    I wish!  That would be a dream car.

    Maybe your purpose in life is only to serve as an example for others? - LPL


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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,504
    Just kicking this around today with some friends.  Predictions for which of these will end up selling more units?


    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 33,389
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Just kicking this around today with some friends.  Predictions for which of these will end up selling more units?



    it will all be about the sticker price.....not the beauty
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • WeberWho
    WeberWho Posts: 11,255
    Lots of Tesla fanboys out there. They're also much more advanced when it comes to battery technology 
    "The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan

    Minnesota
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  • saluki2007
    saluki2007 Posts: 6,354
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Just kicking this around today with some friends.  Predictions for which of these will end up selling more units?


    Is the question which will sell more in a particular year or over the life?  I’m not sure Rivian will be around in 5–10 years. 
    Large and Small BGE
    Central, IL

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  • Gulfcoastguy
    Gulfcoastguy Posts: 6,706
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Just kicking this around today with some friends.  Predictions for which of these will end up selling more units?


    Which one is actually being sold and which one is 3 years behind its initial promised for sale date? 
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  • Gulfcoastguy
    Gulfcoastguy Posts: 6,706
    Parked in a Tesla charger parking place with no place to put a charging plug
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    Gulfcoastguy Posts: 6,706

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  • Gulfcoastguy
    Gulfcoastguy Posts: 6,706
    Botch said:
    I asked her how they got Vegan Leather, and she told me it came from Vegan Cows.  She was dead serious and was offended by my laughing.  I asked her how that was different from a regular cow.
    We-e-ell, most cows start out drinking milk... [/geek 
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4bqoFYOGTjA. Try watching this, the guy is hilarious.

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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    saluki2007 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Just kicking this around today with some friends.  Predictions for which of these will end up selling more units?


    Is the question which will sell more in a particular year or over the life?  I’m not sure Rivian will be around in 5–10 years. 
    Same could be said of Tesla. Once the major car makers fully enter the EV vehicle market Tesla may well be in more serious trouble than they already are.

    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




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  • WeberWho
    WeberWho Posts: 11,255
    HeavyG said:
    saluki2007 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Just kicking this around today with some friends.  Predictions for which of these will end up selling more units?


    Is the question which will sell more in a particular year or over the life?  I’m not sure Rivian will be around in 5–10 years. 
    Same could be said of Tesla. Once the major car makers fully enter the EV vehicle market Tesla may well be in more serious trouble than they already are.


    I think they have some time. Especially when it comes to trucks and using them as they are intended to be used. 

    https://youtu.be/j8gH52gKejE
    "The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan

    Minnesota
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 33,389
    WeberWho said:
    HeavyG said:
    saluki2007 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Just kicking this around today with some friends.  Predictions for which of these will end up selling more units?


    Is the question which will sell more in a particular year or over the life?  I’m not sure Rivian will be around in 5–10 years. 
    Same could be said of Tesla. Once the major car makers fully enter the EV vehicle market Tesla may well be in more serious trouble than they already are.


    I think they have some time. Especially when it comes to trucks and using them as they are intended to be used. 

    https://youtu.be/j8gH52gKejE
    Forget about towing with that truck
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    fishlessman said:
    WeberWho said:
    HeavyG said:
    saluki2007 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Just kicking this around today with some friends.  Predictions for which of these will end up selling more units?


    Is the question which will sell more in a particular year or over the life?  I’m not sure Rivian will be around in 5–10 years. 
    Same could be said of Tesla. Once the major car makers fully enter the EV vehicle market Tesla may well be in more serious trouble than they already are.


    I think they have some time. Especially when it comes to trucks and using them as they are intended to be used. 

    https://youtu.be/j8gH52gKejE
    Forget about towing with that truck
    Any electric truck is going to be limited to half to a third of its range towing, which is dismal.  Gas trucks loose a lot of range too but they have at least twice the range and places to fill up quick.  Infrastructure will take a while to catch up, in the interim, don’t plan on buying an electric vehicle if you plan to do long tow trips like RV life stuff.
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,504
    saluki2007 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Just kicking this around today with some friends.  Predictions for which of these will end up selling more units?


    Is the question which will sell more in a particular year or over the life?  I’m not sure Rivian will be around in 5–10 years. 
    I’m not sure the Tesla will be around in 5-10 years.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 33,389
    nolaegghead said:
    fishlessman said:
    WeberWho said:
    HeavyG said:
    saluki2007 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Just kicking this around today with some friends.  Predictions for which of these will end up selling more units?


    Is the question which will sell more in a particular year or over the life?  I’m not sure Rivian will be around in 5–10 years. 
    Same could be said of Tesla. Once the major car makers fully enter the EV vehicle market Tesla may well be in more serious trouble than they already are.


    I think they have some time. Especially when it comes to trucks and using them as they are intended to be used. 

    https://youtu.be/j8gH52gKejE
    Forget about towing with that truck
    Any electric truck is going to be limited to half to a third of its range towing, which is dismal.  Gas trucks loose a lot of range too but they have at least twice the range and places to fill up quick.  Infrastructure will take a while to catch up, in the interim, don’t plan on buying an electric vehicle if you plan to do long tow trips like RV life stuff.
    Neighbor at work bought one, expect less than 130 miles round trip with minimal load on a really small aluminum trailer with that ford
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 33,389
    fishlessman said:
    nolaegghead said:
    fishlessman said:
    WeberWho said:
    HeavyG said:
    saluki2007 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Just kicking this around today with some friends.  Predictions for which of these will end up selling more units?


    Is the question which will sell more in a particular year or over the life?  I’m not sure Rivian will be around in 5–10 years. 
    Same could be said of Tesla. Once the major car makers fully enter the EV vehicle market Tesla may well be in more serious trouble than they already are.


    I think they have some time. Especially when it comes to trucks and using them as they are intended to be used. 

    https://youtu.be/j8gH52gKejE
    Forget about towing with that truck
    Any electric truck is going to be limited to half to a third of its range towing, which is dismal.  Gas trucks loose a lot of range too but they have at least twice the range and places to fill up quick.  Infrastructure will take a while to catch up, in the interim, don’t plan on buying an electric vehicle if you plan to do long tow trips like RV life stuff.
    Neighbor at work bought one, expect less than 130 miles round trip with minimal load on a really small aluminum trailer with that ford
    The salesman does not tell you that
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • alaskanassasin
    alaskanassasin Posts: 8,158
    JohnInCarolina said:
    saluki2007 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Just kicking this around today with some friends.  Predictions for which of these will end up selling more units?


    Is the question which will sell more in a particular year or over the life?  I’m not sure Rivian will be around in 5–10 years. 
    I’m not sure the Tesla will be around in 5-10 years.
    I think it’s hilarious when a keyboard cowboy is second guessing one of the richest man in the worlds chance of success. 
    South of Columbus, Ohio.


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  • saluki2007
    saluki2007 Posts: 6,354
    JohnInCarolina said:
    saluki2007 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Just kicking this around today with some friends.  Predictions for which of these will end up selling more units?


    Is the question which will sell more in a particular year or over the life?  I’m not sure Rivian will be around in 5–10 years. 
    I’m not sure the Tesla will be around in 5-10 years.
    Tesla isn’t going anywhere. Now will Elon still be in charge, probably not. 
    Large and Small BGE
    Central, IL

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  • Gulfcoastguy
    Gulfcoastguy Posts: 6,706
    alaskanassasin said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    saluki2007 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Just kicking this around today with some friends.  Predictions for which of these will end up selling more units?


    Is the question which will sell more in a particular year or over the life?  I’m not sure Rivian will be around in 5–10 years. 
    I’m not sure the Tesla will be around in 5-10 years.
    I think it’s hilarious when a keyboard cowboy is second guessing one of the richest man in the worlds chance of success. 
    Well he Used to be the richest? Fortunes change and I think his got cut in half recently based on stock prices. 
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,504
    alaskanassasin said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    saluki2007 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Just kicking this around today with some friends.  Predictions for which of these will end up selling more units?


    Is the question which will sell more in a particular year or over the life?  I’m not sure Rivian will be around in 5–10 years. 
    I’m not sure the Tesla will be around in 5-10 years.
    I think it’s hilarious when a keyboard cowboy is second guessing one of the richest man in the worlds chance of success. 
    What’s hilarious is equating wealth with judgment.  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,504
    saluki2007 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    saluki2007 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Just kicking this around today with some friends.  Predictions for which of these will end up selling more units?


    Is the question which will sell more in a particular year or over the life?  I’m not sure Rivian will be around in 5–10 years. 
    I’m not sure the Tesla will be around in 5-10 years.
    Tesla isn’t going anywhere. Now will Elon still be in charge, probably not. 
    Tesla has more and more competition, and quality control issues that persist. But I was actually referring to that particular model - the CyberTruck.  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,504

    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 33,865
    Judgment comes from experience.  Experience comes from poor judgement.  
    (intentionally using both accepted spelling of judg...).   B)
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
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  • alaskanassasin
    alaskanassasin Posts: 8,158
    JohnInCarolina said:
    alaskanassasin said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    saluki2007 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Just kicking this around today with some friends.  Predictions for which of these will end up selling more units?


    Is the question which will sell more in a particular year or over the life?  I’m not sure Rivian will be around in 5–10 years. 
    I’m not sure the Tesla will be around in 5-10 years.
    I think it’s hilarious when a keyboard cowboy is second guessing one of the richest man in the worlds chance of success. 
    What’s hilarious is equating wealth with judgment.  
    If poor judgment made wealth… oh how I would be rich!
    South of Columbus, Ohio.


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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,504
    alaskanassasin said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    alaskanassasin said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    saluki2007 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Just kicking this around today with some friends.  Predictions for which of these will end up selling more units?


    Is the question which will sell more in a particular year or over the life?  I’m not sure Rivian will be around in 5–10 years. 
    I’m not sure the Tesla will be around in 5-10 years.
    I think it’s hilarious when a keyboard cowboy is second guessing one of the richest man in the worlds chance of success. 
    What’s hilarious is equating wealth with judgment.  
    If poor judgment made wealth… oh how I would be rich!
    We have this bizarre view of wealth in this country.  People just take it for granted that very wealthy people got there based on superior knowledge, ability, and work ethic.  How dare anyone question them?  

    I mean… on point with the subject of this thread, after Musk sold his first company, he bought a $1M McLaren F1.  You know what happened to that car?  Musk crashed it - uninsured.  

    Here’s what he said after the crash:

    “You know, I had read all these stories about people who made money and bought sports cars and crashed them. But I knew it would never happen to me, so I didn’t get any insurance.”

    Obviously, this man is a genius who should never be questioned. 
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • saluki2007
    saluki2007 Posts: 6,354
    JohnInCarolina said:

    The stock market is so manipulated now a days. Look at Tesla’s EBITDA compared to GM and Ford and tell me if that makes sense. 
    Large and Small BGE
    Central, IL

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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,504
    edited December 2022
    saluki2007 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:

    The stock market is so manipulated now a days. Look at Tesla’s EBITDA compared to GM and Ford and tell me if that makes sense. 
    These things come down to fundamentals.

    When it comes to making EVs, what “secret sauce” do you think Tesla has that other car companies lack?   I would argue that it’s nothing that can’t be caught technology-wise, and the big auto makers have a lot of advantages that Tesla does not.  


    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • Gulfcoastguy
    Gulfcoastguy Posts: 6,706
    I could get into the weeds about charging standards. But I will leave it that Tesla got a commanding lead. Now that other manufacturers are starting to catch up they are trying to cement their lead . However Joe wouldn’t spit on Elon if he was on fire.
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