BlueStar

womaus

SonVolt said:

You'll need a good heavy duty dolly and ideally 3 men to set it in place, and that was just for my 30".  It's obnoxiously heavy and will absolutely wreck your floors if you try and scoot it. Make sure you use furniture pads or carboard or something protective. Try and level it before you move it into place, b/c once it's slid up against your counters it's impossible to level the back feet. 

A little late here but thought I'd add this as info for future buyers and DIY installers:

I used one of these, found one at a rental place about 30 miles away.

https://airsled.com

Seriously, once it's aired up you can push the stove around with one finger.

To save about $1000 on a 30" I purchased the stove from out of state, in no tax 
New Hampshire. About an hours drive. Tasked a friend with a van that owed me many favors with the pickup at the store (they were not allowed to install or deliver out of their designated sales area).

Appliance store people muscled it into he van, then we were able to back the van up to the front door entry, set a couple of 2x8s, and slide it into the house. From there the AirSled made things easy. 

And yes. Even the 30" BlueStars are heavy.

Over a year now of use, no issues. My wife who was hesitant to go from electric to gas for baking has been won over.

Wokking is fun. 

fishlessman

womaus said:

SonVolt said:

You'll need a good heavy duty dolly and ideally 3 men to set it in place, and that was just for my 30".  It's obnoxiously heavy and will absolutely wreck your floors if you try and scoot it. Make sure you use furniture pads or carboard or something protective. Try and level it before you move it into place, b/c once it's slid up against your counters it's impossible to level the back feet. 

A little late here but thought I'd add this as info for future buyers and DIY installers:

I used one of these, found one at a rental place about 30 miles away.

https://airsled.com

Seriously, once it's aired up you can push the stove around with one finger.

To save about $1000 on a 30" I purchased the stove from out of state, in no tax 
New Hampshire. About an hours drive. Tasked a friend with a van that owed me many favors with the pickup at the store (they were not allowed to install or deliver out of their designated sales area).

Appliance store people muscled it into he van, then we were able to back the van up to the front door entry, set a couple of 2x8s, and slide it into the house. From there the AirSled made things easy. 

And yes. Even the 30" BlueStars are heavy.

Over a year now of use, no issues. My wife who was hesitant to go from electric to gas for baking has been won over.

Wokking is fun. 

Buying NH is always abargain

SonVolt

womaus said:

SonVolt said:

You'll need a good heavy duty dolly and ideally 3 men to set it in place, and that was just for my 30".  It's obnoxiously heavy and will absolutely wreck your floors if you try and scoot it. Make sure you use furniture pads or carboard or something protective. Try and level it before you move it into place, b/c once it's slid up against your counters it's impossible to level the back feet. 

A little late here but thought I'd add this as info for future buyers and DIY installers:

I used one of these, found one at a rental place about 30 miles away.

https://airsled.com

Seriously, once it's aired up you can push the stove around with one finger.

To save about $1000 on a 30" I purchased the stove from out of state, in no tax 
New Hampshire. About an hours drive. Tasked a friend with a van that owed me many favors with the pickup at the store (they were not allowed to install or deliver out of their designated sales area).

Appliance store people muscled it into he van, then we were able to back the van up to the front door entry, set a couple of 2x8s, and slide it into the house. From there the AirSled made things easy. 

And yes. Even the 30" BlueStars are heavy.

Over a year now of use, no issues. My wife who was hesitant to go from electric to gas for baking has been won over.

Wokking is fun. 

Ok that airsled is just cool. I'll definitely be on the lookout for one of those next time. Why my appliance store doesn't use these is beyond me. 

ColbyLang

Anyone have any knowledge of the BlueStar Refrigerators? I’m still chasing this rabbit before the Electrolux gives up the ghost

Corv

Incidentally, there's one thing that I'm not so happy with about my stove. The oven takes a long time to come to temperature, at least when I heat it to 450 or 475.

alaskanassasin

Corv said:

Incidentally, there's one thing that I'm not so happy with about my stove. The oven takes a long time to come to temperature, at least when I heat it to 450 or 475.

I was canning today and wish I had more btu. I would like more btu when woking too.

SonVolt

Corv said:

Incidentally, there's one thing that I'm not so happy with about my stove. The oven takes a long time to come to temperature, at least when I heat it to 450 or 475.

How long? I haven't timed it, but I'd guess mine will preheat to 450F in ~3-4 minutes. I have the Platinum though with "PowR oven" which I believe is a different design than the RNB. 

Corv

Mine is the RNB, and it takes around 20-30 minutes. Guess I should have spent even more.

alaskanassasin

Corv said:

Mine is the RNB, and it takes around 20-30 minutes. Guess I should have spent even more.

I will clock mine for comparison and post the results 

SonVolt

Corv said:

Mine is the RNB, and it takes around 20-30 minutes. Guess I should have spent even more.

That doesn't sound right.  I would definitely give them a call.  

NDG

my RNB gets to 450 under 15 mins (I think, guess I gotta check to be sure). . my only complaint so far is the convection fan can get kinda loud. 

I did a veg roast last night using new full size sheet pan . . super cool . . it is HUGE !!

alaskanassasin

@Corv My RNB took 21:50 to hit 450 F

ColbyLang

That’s not terrible time by any stretch of the word. Cold steel box with a non commercial gas burner. 

alaskanassasin

About the same as a large egg. Lol

Canugghead

Fwiw, my Kenmore hits 475 under 10. Perhaps proximity of probe to heat source and calibration could impact the reading? Meant to verify the true temp but never gotten around to it.

Corv

Well, I think I found out the nature of the "problem." I set up one of the sensors from my Smoke thermometer system that I use for meat. Now I have no idea how accurate it is, but my meat generally comes out okay using it. Anyway, aiming at 450 F, it took 18:44 according to the Smoke sensor, but 23:21 according to the Bluestar. However, when the Bluestar decided it was at 450, the Smoke felt that it was at 504 F.

I'm tracking it now, with the Smoke sensor resting on the grid at the mid-setting and convection on (I usually use convection) and the baking stone out. After 5 minutes, the Smoke said 460 F, and after 10 minutes it said 436, and the burner came back on. At 13 it had peaked at 456 or so, and at 15 was at 441.

I'm going to halt the test for now and get on with my day. What I presume from this is that the Smoke and Bluestar are both reasonably correct. The Bluestar overshoots as part of the preheating, and as the oven comes to temperature, manages to hold things reasonably close. If the baking stone were in the oven, that would definitely slow the excursions and tend to even them up a bit.

Thanks for pushing me to do this!

Afterward - when I opened the oven door to dump the heat after shutting it off, I found the Smoke sensor pointing down, with the tip resting on the floor. That may explain the slightly low temperature that the oven drifts to when it's not powered.

NDG

@corv nice test!

alaskanassasin

Swmbo schleps my pizza steel out before baking. 

Canugghead

Corv said:

Well, I think I found out the nature of the "problem." I set up one of the sensors from my Smoke thermometer system that I use for meat. Now I have no idea how accurate it is, but my meat generally comes out okay using it. Anyway, aiming at 450 F, it took 18:44 according to the Smoke sensor, but 23:21 according to the Bluestar. However, when the Bluestar decided it was at 450, the Smoke felt that it was at 504 F.

I'm tracking it now, with the Smoke sensor resting on the grid at the mid-setting and convection on (I usually use convection) and the baking stone out. After 5 minutes, the Smoke said 460 F, and after 10 minutes it said 436, and the burner came back on. At 13 it had peaked at 456 or so, and at 15 was at 441.

I'm going to halt the test for now and get on with my day. What I presume from this is that the Smoke and Bluestar are both reasonably correct. The Bluestar overshoots as part of the preheating, and as the oven comes to temperature, manages to hold things reasonably close. If the baking stone were in the oven, that would definitely slow the excursions and tend to even them up a bit.

Thanks for pushing me to do this!

Afterward - when I opened the oven door to dump the heat after shutting it off, I found the Smoke sensor pointing down, with the tip resting on the floor. That may explain the slightly low temperature that the oven drifts to when it's not powered.

You need a Thermoworks square Dot!

https://youtu.be/VlXwkhIthqs

Corv

The spring clip shown in the Square Dot video and supplied with the Smoke do not fit the Bluestar oven grate. Its grate wires are too far apart. Which is why my sensor fell down, I could not use the clip.

By the way, thanks particularly to alaskanassasin for testing his.

Canugghead

Corv said:

The spring clip shown in the Square Dot video and supplied with the Smoke do not fit the Bluestar oven grate. Its grate wires are too far apart. Which is why my sensor fell down, I could not use the clip.

By the way, thanks particularly to alaskanassasin for testing his.

NDG

Ok, next thing . . How can I make this ridiculously sharp corner (kids head height) not so deadly ?? Traditional silicone edge protectors won’t fit bc bottom angle.

 I might this Q on main forum, but I’ll start here . . 

fishlessman

you could trim the front of the edge corner so that it hangs down less......or

ColbyLang

NDG said:

Ok, next thing . . How can I make this ridiculously sharp corner (kids head height) not so deadly ?? Traditional silicone edge protectors won’t fit bc bottom angle.

 I might this Q on main forum, but I’ll start here . . 

I’d almost look at glue dots, or something similar in a peel off silicone. Don’t want anything that will mar the finish, yet you need to soften the edge. Foam weatherstripping would work, but then there’s adhesive and the color of it. 

Canugghead

NDG said:

Ok, next thing . . How can I make this ridiculously sharp corner (kids head height) not so deadly ?? Traditional silicone edge protectors won’t fit bc bottom angle.

 I might this Q on main forum, but I’ll start here . . 

Perhaps @Tspud1 can fabricate something for you?

HeavyG

Just tell the kids no horseplay in the kitchen.
If they bonk their noggin into it once they won't do it again.
You could probably use something like Sugru to mold something that will lessen the pain of a headbump. If you had access to a 3D printer it would be pretty easy to model up/print some sort of thing.

caliking

HeavyG said:

Just tell the kids no horseplay in the kitchen.
If they bonk their noggin into it once they won't do it again.
You could probably use something like Sugru to mold something that will lessen the pain of a headbump. If you had access to a 3D printer it would be pretty easy to model up/print some sort of thing.

His kid's gonna be mad after wearing that much Sugru for so long (jk).

Piece of cardboard + duck tape. Simple, ugly, but effective. Until the kid grows a few inches. Which shouldn't take that long.

NDG

Good Stuff, I appreciate all the ideas.  My wife didnt think I would get a response, but truth is this forum is filled with problem solvers, who like to help.  Thanks. 

fishlessman

NDG said:

Good Stuff, I appreciate all the ideas.  My wife didnt think I would get a response, but truth is this forum is filled with problem solvers, who like to help.  Thanks. 

It would be easy to trim one of those silicone corner guards down but it would still work if you don't.  More evil is the hot pan

Corv

Sugru would work. I used some on a bathroom mirror that has a sharp corner, works great, comes in colors.