OHIO response to COVID19

rcone

The lab coats are probably correct in their modeling of severe cases; there will be countless cases of mild reactions of the virus that will never seek medical attention, those will never be counted, but a reasonable model will be developed. When this is all over the numbers will probably be similar to the 2009 swine flu (59 million contracted it, 265000 hospitalized, and 18000 fatalities in the US, between March 2009, and March 2010; to go along will terrifying numbers world wide), but an incalculable amount of damage will happen in peoples lives from an overzealous misguided one size fits all approach that puts the truly vulnerable in more danger, and hinders the rest from living normal lives.  

YukonRon

rcone said:

The lab coats are probably correct in their modeling of severe cases; there will be countless cases of mild reactions of the virus that will never seek medical attention, those will never be counted, but a reasonable model will be developed. When this is all over the numbers will probably be similar to the 2009 swine flu (59 million contracted it, 265000 hospitalized, and 18000 fatalities in the US, between March 2009, and March 2010; to go along will terrifying numbers world wide), but an incalculable amount of damage will happen in peoples lives from an overzealous misguided one size fits all approach that puts the truly vulnerable in more danger, and hinders the rest from living normal lives.  

Given the fact we are early on in this and already at a 2% mortality rate versus infections, which should be enough to get people attention......the predictable model is at 4%, and that is the ultra conservative from a government agency in an election year. (You make your own decision) Epidemiologists from around the world go higher.

There is more to come. Just be mindful and protect yourself and your family.

GrateEggspectations

My province (Canadian equivalent of a U.S. state) ordered the closing of all bars, theatres, gyms, ski hills, sugar shacks, arcades, and pools to impede the spread of COVID-19. Restaurants are also being asked to limit the capacity of their business to 50 per cent to maintain a distance between customers. 

Eoin

Botch said:

JohnInCarolina said:

A bit of perspective:

Can you say "exponential growth"?  

Comparative figures are meaningless because of differences in numbers tested / testing protocol.

So far, I'm on board with letting it spread slowly in the general population while protecting vulnerable groups. But, you have to know what is going on, and that means testing.

JohnInCarolina

rcone said:

The lab coats are probably correct in their modeling of severe cases; there will be countless cases of mild reactions of the virus that will never seek medical attention, those will never be counted, but a reasonable model will be developed. When this is all over the numbers will probably be similar to the 2009 swine flu (59 million contracted it, 265000 hospitalized, and 18000 fatalities in the US, between March 2009, and March 2010; to go along will terrifying numbers world wide), but an incalculable amount of damage will happen in peoples lives from an overzealous misguided one size fits all approach that puts the truly vulnerable in more danger, and hinders the rest from living normal lives.  

You will be hard pressed to find many lab coats comparing this to the swine flu, unless it is to draw a contrast.  

The data on H1N1 is public and a matter of historical record.  It took us six months to reach 20k cases of H1N1 in the US.  We will likely reach that number for COVID-19 in a matter of weeks.  We are probably already there, but our testing has been anemic.

HeavyG

A wild read on why South Korea was, on one hand, seemingly well prepared to deal with Covid19 and, on the other hand, how it spread so rapidly in parts of the country.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/02/27/coronavirus-south-korea-cults-conservatives-china/

The article is about two weeks old so at this point most of the numbers mentioned are obsolete.

JohnInCarolina

JohnInCarolina said:

rcone said:

The lab coats are probably correct in their modeling of severe cases; there will be countless cases of mild reactions of the virus that will never seek medical attention, those will never be counted, but a reasonable model will be developed. When this is all over the numbers will probably be similar to the 2009 swine flu (59 million contracted it, 265000 hospitalized, and 18000 fatalities in the US, between March 2009, and March 2010; to go along will terrifying numbers world wide), but an incalculable amount of damage will happen in peoples lives from an overzealous misguided one size fits all approach that puts the truly vulnerable in more danger, and hinders the rest from living normal lives.  

You will be hard pressed to find many lab coats comparing this to the swine flu, unless it is to draw a contrast.  

The data on H1N1 is public and a matter of historical record.  It took us six months to reach 20k cases of H1N1 in the US.  We will likely reach that number for COVID-19 in a matter of weeks.  We are probably already there, but our testing has been anemic.

Would the person who disagreed with this post like to own up to that or maybe reassess?  

nolaegghead

JohnInCarolina said:

JohnInCarolina said:

rcone said:

The lab coats are probably correct in their modeling of severe cases; there will be countless cases of mild reactions of the virus that will never seek medical attention, those will never be counted, but a reasonable model will be developed. When this is all over the numbers will probably be similar to the 2009 swine flu (59 million contracted it, 265000 hospitalized, and 18000 fatalities in the US, between March 2009, and March 2010; to go along will terrifying numbers world wide), but an incalculable amount of damage will happen in peoples lives from an overzealous misguided one size fits all approach that puts the truly vulnerable in more danger, and hinders the rest from living normal lives.  

You will be hard pressed to find many lab coats comparing this to the swine flu, unless it is to draw a contrast.  

The data on H1N1 is public and a matter of historical record.  It took us six months to reach 20k cases of H1N1 in the US.  We will likely reach that number for COVID-19 in a matter of weeks.  We are probably already there, but our testing has been anemic.

Would the person who disagreed with this post like to own up to that or maybe reassess?  

People that are ignorant will die from karma. 

thetrim

Schools in Florida closed now until April 15th.

alaskanassasin

I don’t think karma applies to ignorance?

lentsboy007

Gulfcoastguy said:

lentsboy007 said:

People who know more about government than me.... how can a governor shut down all privately owned restaurants ? Illinois Gov did it too. How can they do that to a privately owned business ?

Laws for emergencies were granted by the legislatures way back when. They delegated the power to the governor.

Ah.... it’s happened here in Indiana now too. Best part of my work day is going to the 65 year old diner for lunch.  Ruined 

DoubleEgger

thetrim said:

Schools in Florida closed now until April 15th.

Schools will be closed for the remainder of the school year. They just are feeding it to folks a few weeks at a time. 

Botch

alaskanassasin said:

I don’t think karma applies to ignorance?

Sadly, no.  No, it does not.  

alaskanassasin

DeWine for president 2024!

alaskanassasin

I agree with the “disagree”

ColbyLang

DoubleEgger said:

thetrim said:

Schools in Florida closed now until April 15th.

Schools will be closed for the remainder of the school year. They just are feeding it to folks a few weeks at a time. 

Hopefully this ain’t true. Do we get a refund on the thousands of dollars of tuition I already paid in? Louisiana says April 14 return date

JohnInCarolina

alaskanassasin said:

I agree with the “disagree”

But why?  Which part did you find disagreeable?

JohnInCarolina

ColbyLang said:

DoubleEgger said:

thetrim said:

Schools in Florida closed now until April 15th.

Schools will be closed for the remainder of the school year. They just are feeding it to folks a few weeks at a time. 

Hopefully this ain’t true. Do we get a refund on the thousands of dollars of tuition I already paid in? Louisiana says April 14 return date

I think it’s a safe bet that it will be online classes at best until the end of the semester.

alaskanassasin

alaskanassasin said:

I agree with the “disagree”

Honestly he has been a fine governor. I really saw his candor a few weeks ago when he was holding a speaker phone with Arnold to the microphone talking about the decision to not allow spectators to the Arnold classic.  The terminator was going on and on and on it was pretty funny. 

alaskanassasin

He seriously after putting us all to sleep said “Hasta la vista baby” 

HeavyG

It's always entertaining when Fox News decides that they have to do a 180 and actually start dealing honestly with reality. I'm guessing they came to the stark realization that their prime demographic is also the group most likely to die from Covid19.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1240084001949245441

Fred19Flintstone

HeavyG said:

It's always entertaining when Fox News decides that they have to do a 180 and actually start dealing honestly with reality. I'm guessing they came to the stark realization that their prime demographic is also the group most likely to die from Covid19.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1240084001949245441

saluki2007

Day 2 of working from home do to the virus. Not sure if I'm coming down with the corona or hungover...

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/jheil/status/1240056993290821640?s=20

Eoin

JohnInCarolina said:

http://twitter.com/jheil/status/1240056993290821640?s=20

I imagine that these will get a lot of airplay closer to the election.

ColtsFan

Pretty interesting

https://youtu.be/PWzbArPgo-o

YukonRon

Great responses from great leaders during turbulent times for America:

"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."- FDR

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."- JFK

"The buck stops here" - HST

And this one from, well you know......

"I don't take responsibility at all."- DJT

He gone....

DMW

YukonRon said:

Great responses from great leaders during turbulent times for America:

"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."- FDR

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."- JFK

"The buck stops here" - HST

And this one from, well you know......

"I don't take responsibility at all."- DJT

He gone....

About that...
https://youtu.be/pB5vmhZjIqM

caliking

JohnInCarolina said:

http://twitter.com/jheil/status/1240056993290821640?s=20

 I flagged you because I was suddenly feeling left out. 

JohnInCarolina

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/mismanagement-missed-opportunities-how-white-house-bungled-coronavirus-response-n1158746



Good Lord.