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An appeal to the shaving gods....
After years of shaving my head with Headblade products, I am somewhat tired of the plastic and rubber pieces wearing out and would instead like to try my hand at my first safety razor. Willing to spend up to about $200.
I am looking for a quality piece and something not so aggressive that I’ll slice myself to ribbons, leading me to believe something adjustable like a Merkur Futur might do me well.
If anyone (looking at you @SGH) is willing to recommend specific models I should consider, I would be very grateful!
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Mach 3? Been shaving my head for almost 20 years. It's the best I've found.I know, it's not as cool as a straight edge.
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If you are wanting to go with a DE razor, especially for head shaving, you will be hard pressed to do any better than a Merkur Futur or Parker Variant. Both are outstanding performers and the quality is top notch.
The beauty of these two razors is you have absolute control over their aggressiveness. You can dial them up or down with a mere turn of a knob. Also simply changing blades has a huge impact on their aggressiveness. And you also have the option of shimming them for even more aggression if you so desire.
A Merkur Futur set on high, loaded with a Feather blade, and shimmed two times is right on par with the legendary Muhle R41 for aggressiveness. On that same note, a Merkur Futur set on low, loaded with a mild blade and not shimmed is just about as mild as most disposable safety razors. Everything that I just said applies to the Parker Variant as well with one exception. It’s slightly less aggressive than the Futur when both are shimmed twice. But only by a hair. No pun intended.
In my humble opinion, if someone is wanting to get by with just one razor, you will be hard pressed to do any better than the Futur and the Variant. Especially for the money. You can certainly argue and build the case that the R41 (and a few others) can surpass the Futur and Variant in some categories. However even the R41 is not as flexible or as forgiving as the Futur and the Variant. For all around shaving, both of these razors best the R41. Because of their adjustability, anyone can pick them up and use them safely and with confidence. This is simply not the case with the R41. It is simply to aggressive for inexperienced users and it’s open comb design makes it a disaster waiting to happen.
Several folks on this forum has called, texted or PM’d me after purchasing either the Variant or the Futur. The most common response is “I wish I would of bought it years ago”.
Before I stop my rant, let me recommend one more thing. If you chose to go with a DE razor, invest in a good soap or cream. You really can’t use a DE razor to it’s full potential with canned cream. A shaving soap or real cream with provide far more slickness and cushion for a much better shave. It’s like putting regular gasoline in a top fuel dragster. It may crank and go, but it’s performance will be restricted. The same applies to a DE razor.
Whatever you chose, good luck and shave on my friend.
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Here is a couple of examples of quality shaving creams if you chose to stay with a cream for simplicity. The first two creams must be lathered with a brush. This can be done in a bowl or on the face.
Here is a latherless cream (no brush required). Simply wipe it on.
Any of these will provide the protection and comfort that you are looking for when using a DE.Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.
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One last thing. Be advised that the Futur is a very large razor. This can be either a good or bad thing. If you have small hands and a small face with odd or sharp angles, the Futur may not be for you. The Variant will serve you better as it is slightly smaller.
Here is a size comparison of the Futur upside the R41. The size difference is easily noticeable.
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jimdgreat1 said:Mach 3? Been shaving my head for almost 20 years. It's the best I've found.I know, it's not as cool as a straight edge.
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I don't shave my head, but if I did, I can't imagine using anything but a Mach 3 or similar cartridge razor. Not a snowball's chance of letting a DE razor anywhere near!
You could always let Sweeney Todd have a go at it.
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@SGH: Thanks for the info, friend. I had a feeling the Futur would be a good choice, and you’ve confirmed it. Would it be crazy to consider an R41 for the head? I’ve read about others who have employed it with success, but given my lack of experience with DE razors, I wonder if the aggressive nature of it makes it a poor choice relative to the infinite adjustability of the Futur. When head shaving, you’re flying blind over uneven territory for more than half the shave, so it can be scary at times and you can certainly do some damage.
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@SGH - I haven't tried Taylor of Old Bond Street or the Captains Choice yet but I agree with you on the Cremo. I've been using Cremo with sandalwood scent. It has a great earthy aroma and is crazy slick.Large Egg, PGS A40 gasser.
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GrateEggspectations said:@SGH: Thanks for the info, friend. I had a feeling the Futur would be a good choice, and you’ve confirmed it. Would it be crazy to consider an R41 for the head? I’ve read about others who have employed it with success, but given my lack of experience with DE razors, I wonder if the aggressive nature of it makes it a poor choice relative to the infinite adjustability of the Futur. When head shaving, you’re flying blind over uneven territory for more than half the shave, so it can be scary at times and you can certainly do some damage.
I have no doubt that there are head shavers out there that use the R41 for its closeness per pass. But I would be willing to bet they didn’t start with the R41. They worked their way up to it.
You said it yourself above that you are inexperienced. I can’t in good conscience recommend that you start with R41. The Futur or Variant will be more razor than you need if you set them on their highest setting.
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@SGH: Thanks for the info. Have you tried the Rockwell 6s or other adjustable DE razors? The Rockwell comes in stainless steel, which is nice.
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1voyager said:@SGH - I haven't tried Taylor of Old Bond Street or the Captains Choice yet but I agree with you on the Cremo. I've been using Cremo with sandalwood scent. It has a great earthy aroma and is crazy slick.
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GrateEggspectations said:@SGH: Thanks for the info. Have you tried the Rockwell 6s or other adjustable DE razors? The Rockwell comes in stainless steel, which is nice.
But again, I haven’t used one so I can’t say anything good or bad about them.Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.
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I recently joined the wet shaving movement and I started with a Parker Variant Adjustable. I highly recommend it. You can adjust it anywhere from a one to a ten. I started at a one and have worked my way up to a three. For head shaving you probably would do the same and most likely would max out at a three.
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Hub said:I recently joined the wet shaving movement and I started with a Parker Variant Adjustable. I highly recommend it. You can adjust it anywhere from a one to a ten. I started at a one and have worked my way up to a three. For head shaving you probably would do the same and most likely would max out at a three.
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Thanks again for the input all.
I just put my order in for a Rockwell 6s. While many razors appealed, I appreciate that this one is all stainless steel and is also made in the U.S. (and designed in Canada). It gets very good reviews with consistent nods to excellent build quality and smoothness of the shave. It is “adjustable”, though not in the traditional sense - it comes with six plates that are interchangeable, allowing you to dial in your desired closeness. Rockwell has released a dial-based adjustable razor (Model T), but it doesn’t come in an all SS version.
Was about $150 CAD with taxes on Amazon, but I purchased directly from the manufacturer and used a promo code, bringing it down to $124 CAD all in. Can review after I receive it and get some shaves under my belt (not literally!) if there is any interest.
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GrateEggspectations said:
I previously used a Mach 3 and also a Schick Quattro. They did the job, but the blades dulled quickly and I found that the width of the multi-blade design made it harder to do the contours. Surprisingly, I found the Mach 3 blades finicky and preferred similar knockoffs.
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I’m very happy with the shaver I use now - a heavy brass handle that disposable cartridges slide into, with a good brush and soap mug - but am intrigued every time these posts crop up.
Wish the inital investment wasn’t so high... I’d love to try it..Large BGE and Medium BGE
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MaskedMarvel said:I’m very happy with the shaver I use now - a heavy brass handle that disposable cartridges slide into, with a good brush and soap mug - but am intrigued every time these posts crop up.
Wish the inital investment wasn’t so high... I’d love to try it..
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MaskedMarvel said:I’m very happy with the shaver I use now - a heavy brass handle that disposable cartridges slide into, with a good brush and soap mug - but am intrigued every time these posts crop up.
Wish the inital investment wasn’t so high... I’d love to try it.. -
Eoin said:MaskedMarvel said:I’m very happy with the shaver I use now - a heavy brass handle that disposable cartridges slide into, with a good brush and soap mug - but am intrigued every time these posts crop up.
Wish the inital investment wasn’t so high... I’d love to try it..Large BGE and Medium BGE
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etherdome said:
I am so intrigued
Once you get a quality DE and some good blades like Astra or Feather, you will never go back. Especially if you learn to make your own lather from a quality soap.
There is nothing wrong with using disposable razors and cream in a can. But there are far better options out there that can make shaving a real pleasure instead of a chore. You can compare it to cooking or anything really. Do we really need a Big Green Egg to turn out great food? No, we do not. We can do the same thing on a 20 dollar grill from the Dollar Store. However, the BGE sure does take a lot of the work out of it and makes the overall cooking experience enjoyable. The same can be said for DE shaving. A good razor, a good blade, a good brush and a quality soap will make your shaving experience a joy.
And for me, building a lather is a very relaxing ritual that I really enjoy. Most folks who use a DE agree that the lather building is what makes it so enjoyable.
Check out some of the peaks on these lathers and superlathers. If this don’t make you jump in, nothing will.
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@sgh Fantastic! Looks like whipped cream or meringue - stiff peaks too.Large BGE - McDonald, PA
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MaskedMarvel said:I’m very happy with the shaver I use now - a heavy brass handle that disposable cartridges slide into, with a good brush and soap mug - but am intrigued every time these posts crop up.
Wish the inital investment wasn’t so high... I’d love to try it..
If you take the example of my purchase, it’s a stainless steel (316L) piece with no mechanisms to go awry. $125 CAD seems like a downright bargain. And then there’s the decrease in blade costs over cartridges.
And if if you don’t like the razor you buy, I bet resale value is pretty good.
Not it trying to be a smart**s, btw. Maybe just rationalizing my purchase a little. -
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I have had my eye on the Rockwell 6S for awhile now and actually pulled the trigger earlier today. Have been using the Merkur 34C for years, but @SGH and his shaving passion resulted in me taking a closer look at the aggressiveness factor. I have also started using Creamo as a base layer prior to face lathering. That has worked out well.
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Zaltydog said:I have had my eye on the Rockwell 6S for awhile now and actually pulled the trigger earlier today. Have been using the Merkur 34C for years, but @SGH and his shaving passion resulted in me taking a closer look at the aggressiveness factor. I have also started using Creamo as a base layer prior to face lathering. That has worked out well.
I try to spread the word about using the Cremo as a preshave. It’s far cheaper than oil and does just as good if not better.Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.
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@SGH, This may be an ignorant question but..... if I currently have a multi blade system like Mach 3 or Quattro and switch to one of these “nice” razors that only have a single blade, do I have to make several passes with the “nice razor to get a super close shave? I’m only asking because I watched a video of a guy reviewing the Parker variant who basically shaved 3 times in one shaving . Once set on 5, once on 2.5or 3 , and once on 1. Re-lathering each time. I hope not . I’m intrigued , but don’t have time for shaving to be a 20 plus minute process!!!!!Upstate SC
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All this because of the Headblade system used by the OP...
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etherdome said:@SGH, This may be an ignorant question but..... if I currently have a multi blade system like Mach 3 or Quattro and switch to one of these “nice” razors that only have a single blade, do I have to make several passes with the “nice razor to get a super close shave? I’m only asking because I watched a video of a guy reviewing the Parker variant who basically shaved 3 times in one shaving . Once set on 5, once on 2.5or 3 , and once on 1. Re-lathering each time. I hope not . I’m intrigued , but don’t have time for shaving to be a 20 plus minute process!!!!!
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SGH said:Here is a couple of examples of quality shaving creams if you chose to stay with a cream for simplicity. The first two creams must be lathered with a brush. This can be done in a bowl or on the face.
Here is a latherless cream (no brush required). Simply wipe it on.
Any of these will provide the protection and comfort that you are looking for when using a DE.
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