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DMW

nolaegghead said:

DMW said:

nolaegghead said:

DMW said:

nolaegghead said:

In benchmark measurements of outcomes among first world countries, the majority of which have universal health care in some form, variation or another, we have the worst performance in terms of gross money spent, per-capita spent and outcome. 

I'm not trying to say we don't also have some of the best care in the world either, but we can do better.

We also fund fundamental pharma research that is pretty much not done elsewhere.

That's a gross exaggeration. 

"Although the US produces about 22% of the global GDP and accounts for 4% of the world's population, it accounts for 44% of global biomedical R&D expenditures and its domestic pharmaceutical market about 40% of the global market."

from https://www.dcatvci.org/250-biopharmaceutical-innovation-which-countries-rank-the-best

Since we account for 44% of global biomedical R&D, 66% is done elsewhere,  you can't accurately say by a long shot it is not done elsewhere.  Can't even say we do most of all of it.

Since we're politically making our country inhospitable to foreigners, I would expect the number of researchers in this area in the US, which are international, to not increase our total share of world R&D, at least not on US soil.

US Pharma's do a significant amount of R&D overseas. I will readily admit I am not an expert in this subject, and will gladly defer to those that are.

https://www.amazon.com/Death-Expertise-Campaign-Established-Knowledge/dp/0190469412

If you look at the big pharma research companies, they are HQ'd in many different countries.  They all have research labs all over the world.  In fact, Roche and Sanofi, number 2 and 3 in size, are Swiss and French, respectively.

Again, I'm in way over my head on this subject, and when presented with facts, will accept those facts, and accordingly adjust my opinion and position.

nolaegghead

DMW said:

nolaegghead said:

DMW said:

nolaegghead said:

DMW said:

nolaegghead said:

In benchmark measurements of outcomes among first world countries, the majority of which have universal health care in some form, variation or another, we have the worst performance in terms of gross money spent, per-capita spent and outcome. 

I'm not trying to say we don't also have some of the best care in the world either, but we can do better.

We also fund fundamental pharma research that is pretty much not done elsewhere.

That's a gross exaggeration. 

"Although the US produces about 22% of the global GDP and accounts for 4% of the world's population, it accounts for 44% of global biomedical R&D expenditures and its domestic pharmaceutical market about 40% of the global market."

from https://www.dcatvci.org/250-biopharmaceutical-innovation-which-countries-rank-the-best

Since we account for 44% of global biomedical R&D, 66% is done elsewhere,  you can't accurately say by a long shot it is not done elsewhere.  Can't even say we do most of all of it.

Since we're politically making our country inhospitable to foreigners, I would expect the number of researchers in this area in the US, which are international, to not increase our total share of world R&D, at least not on US soil.

US Pharma's do a significant amount of R&D overseas. I will readily admit I am not an expert in this subject, and will gladly defer to those that are.

https://www.amazon.com/Death-Expertise-Campaign-Established-Knowledge/dp/0190469412

If you look at the big pharma research companies, they are HQ'd in many different countries.  They all have research labs all over the world.  In fact, Roche and Sanofi, number 2 and 3 in size, are Swiss and French, respectively.

Again, I'm in way over my head on this subject, and when presented with facts, will accept those facts, and accordingly adjust my opinion and position.

Not trying to beat up on you, Dwayne, you're good guy.  When you're not a total troll... 

DMW

nolaegghead said:

DMW said:

nolaegghead said:

DMW said:

nolaegghead said:

DMW said:

nolaegghead said:

In benchmark measurements of outcomes among first world countries, the majority of which have universal health care in some form, variation or another, we have the worst performance in terms of gross money spent, per-capita spent and outcome. 

I'm not trying to say we don't also have some of the best care in the world either, but we can do better.

We also fund fundamental pharma research that is pretty much not done elsewhere.

That's a gross exaggeration. 

"Although the US produces about 22% of the global GDP and accounts for 4% of the world's population, it accounts for 44% of global biomedical R&D expenditures and its domestic pharmaceutical market about 40% of the global market."

from https://www.dcatvci.org/250-biopharmaceutical-innovation-which-countries-rank-the-best

Since we account for 44% of global biomedical R&D, 66% is done elsewhere,  you can't accurately say by a long shot it is not done elsewhere.  Can't even say we do most of all of it.

Since we're politically making our country inhospitable to foreigners, I would expect the number of researchers in this area in the US, which are international, to not increase our total share of world R&D, at least not on US soil.

US Pharma's do a significant amount of R&D overseas. I will readily admit I am not an expert in this subject, and will gladly defer to those that are.

https://www.amazon.com/Death-Expertise-Campaign-Established-Knowledge/dp/0190469412

If you look at the big pharma research companies, they are HQ'd in many different countries.  They all have research labs all over the world.  In fact, Roche and Sanofi, number 2 and 3 in size, are Swiss and French, respectively.

Again, I'm in way over my head on this subject, and when presented with facts, will accept those facts, and accordingly adjust my opinion and position.

Not trying to beat up on you, Dwayne, you're good guy.  When you're not a total troll... 

Troll..do I do that...

SaintJohnsEgger

I'm seriously thinking of retiring in the Puglia region of Italy. YOU can retire there very cheaply and according to WHO Italy has the #2 healthcare system in the world.

Now if I could just figure out how to get my MiniMax into carry on luggage I would be gone.

May have to speed things up a little if that idiot socialist mayor of Tallahassee becomes our next governor.

thetrim

Interesting that Dwayne admits to not being an expert... then Nola shows us that Nola doesn't know chit either, but can certainly cut and paste a bunch of BS.

Eoin

SaintJohnsEgger said:

I'm seriously thinking of retiring in the Puglia region of Italy. YOU can retire there very cheaply and according to WHO Italy has the #2 healthcare system in the world.

Now if I could just figure out how to get my MiniMax into carry on luggage I would be gone.

May have to speed things up a little if that idiot socialist mayor of Tallahassee becomes our next governor.

If you don't like socialists, I'd steer clear of Italy.  Also, public services vary widely dependent on the wealth of the area and the level of corruption.  The average for healthcare may be good, but it will vary region to region.  The further South you go in Italy, the poorer it gets and the higher the level of corruption.

Great food, great weather, lovely place, nice people etc. etc. I love Italy and deal with several Italian companies, but living there would not be without it's complications.

JohnInCarolina

HeavyG said:

Now that it's Friday, some guaranteed Buffalo bait...

And of course the crowd starts booing after he said it. There's just no 'splainin to some folks.

If you want to actually see the video clip ignore that little black arrow in the pix above, click this:

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1035348264344801282

bgebrent

John,
Do you have any extra hats?

JohnInCarolina

bgebrent said:

John,
Do you have any extra hats?

You betcha! Here you go:

bgebrent

JohnInCarolina said:

bgebrent said:

John,
Do you have any extra hats?

You betcha! Here you go:

That one's even better!  One less crook on the street.  Did that attorney go to Duke too?

JohnInCarolina

bgebrent said:

JohnInCarolina said:

bgebrent said:

John,
Do you have any extra hats?

You betcha! Here you go:

That one's even better!  One less crook on the street.  Did that attorney go to Duke too?

Cohen?  No, Cohen attended the law school in Michigan that basically admits everyone who applies.  Great school, obviously.

Spaightlabs

nolaegghead said:

ummmm....medicare is socialism....duh derp!

Medicare is only socialism when other people get it.

The_Stache

nolaegghead said:

Since we account for 44% of global biomedical R&D, 66% is done elsewhere, 

Math check.... 44% + 66% = 110%

fishlessman

nolaegghead said:

DMW said:

nolaegghead said:

In benchmark measurements of outcomes among first world countries, the majority of which have universal health care in some form, variation or another, we have the worst performance in terms of gross money spent, per-capita spent and outcome. 

I'm not trying to say we don't also have some of the best care in the world either, but we can do better.

We also fund fundamental pharma research that is pretty much not done elsewhere

Since we account for 44% of global biomedical R&D, 66% is done elsewhere,  you can't accurately say by a long shot it is not done elsewhere.  Can't even say we do most of all of it.

drunk math, new math, or fake math what would the donald say

TEXASBGE2018

The_Stache said:

nolaegghead said:

Since we account for 44% of global biomedical R&D, 66% is done elsewhere, 

Math check.... 44% + 66% = 110%

Shhh you can't question nola, he's the smartest guy on this forum. Besides JIC.

DoubleEgger

The_Stache said:

nolaegghead said:

Since we account for 44% of global biomedical R&D, 66% is done elsewhere, 

Math check.... 44% + 66% = 110%

Sometimes you’ve just gotta give 110%

DoubleEgger

TEXASBGE2018 said:

The_Stache said:

nolaegghead said:

Since we account for 44% of global biomedical R&D, 66% is done elsewhere, 

Math check.... 44% + 66% = 110%

Shhh you can't question nola, he's the smartest guy on this forum. Besides JIC.

Say what you will but Nola is indeed a very smart mofo. 

theyolksonyou

TEXASBGE2018 said:

The_Stache said:

nolaegghead said:

Since we account for 44% of global biomedical R&D, 66% is done elsewhere, 

Math check.... 44% + 66% = 110%

Shhh you can't question nola, he's the smartest guy on this forum. Besides JIC.

There’s a good bit of truth there. The second half of this statement. Those dudes are pretty damn intelligent. 

GATraveller

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HeavyG

A bit surprised this thread still lives.

thetrim

Heard some info that Bill Clinton is quite the Arianda Grande fan.

KennyLee

Always enjoy the elites (or those who think they are) describing the rest of us as ignorant ****.  Ironically, kind of how Trump got to where he did.  If they were as smart as they thought they were, maybe they'd have figured that out by now. 

But alas......:)

Eoin

KennyLee said:

Always enjoy the elites (or those who think they are) describing the rest of us as ignorant ****.  Ironically, kind of how Trump got to where he did.  If they were as smart as they thought they were, maybe they'd have figured that out by now. 

But alas......:)

Always entertaining to see people think that Trump is anti establishment / anti elite. He might be unconventional, but he is very much part of the establishment / elite.

KennyLee

Eoin said:

KennyLee said:

Always enjoy the elites (or those who think they are) describing the rest of us as ignorant ****.  Ironically, kind of how Trump got to where he did.  If they were as smart as they thought they were, maybe they'd have figured that out by now. 

But alas......:)

Always entertaining to see people think that Trump is anti establishment / anti elite. He might be unconventional, but he is very much part of the establishment / elite.

If that's so, then why do the establishment of both parties hate him so much?  That includes the Clintons, Bushes, and just about any other establishment, elitist, gravy-sucking stick-it-to-the-middle-class tool there is.

Unconventional, yes.  Sadly lifting the middle class has become "conventional" in the last 30 years.  And that's the main reason he got elected.