OT - Renaming Austin, Tx .... Looking for suggestions

TEXASBGE2018

L.G.B.T.Q.B.L.M.A.C.L.U., Tx

thetrim

Fred19Flintstone said:

We have the same thing here.  Flint Township is not the same as the City of Flint.  Flint Township never had a water problem because it never switched from the Detroit Water System.  However, folks here are tired of explaining to others that they aren't affiliated with the stupidity the City of Flint does.  It's on the November ballot to change the name of Flint Township.  Before the ballot initiative,  they asked folks to submit names for consideration to the Township Board.  I suggested "Sweetwater", but that didn't make the cut.  

It’s a shame all that bad water that happened when Obama was President

Legume

Blue Dot, Texas

JohnInCarolina

thetrim said:

Fred19Flintstone said:

We have the same thing here.  Flint Township is not the same as the City of Flint.  Flint Township never had a water problem because it never switched from the Detroit Water System.  However, folks here are tired of explaining to others that they aren't affiliated with the stupidity the City of Flint does.  It's on the November ballot to change the name of Flint Township.  Before the ballot initiative,  they asked folks to submit names for consideration to the Township Board.  I suggested "Sweetwater", but that didn't make the cut.  

It’s a shame all that bad water that happened when Obama was President

And that it still hasn’t been fixed under Trump.  Can’t imagine why...

Markarm4119

How about "Dumbassville", and eliminate the idiotic office of equity that started the nonsense of how people "feel" about the name of Austin. It will only take $10-15 million to redo all the signage !
Everybody else fed up with how people "feel" about history ?

DMW

Markarm4119 said:

How about "Dumbassville", and eliminate the idiotic office of equity that started the nonsense of how people "feel" about the name of Austin. It will only take $10-15 million to redo all the signage !
Everybody else fed up with how people "feel" about history ?

I know, right? Still can't figure out why Germans don't put up a statue to Hitler. They must be "offended" by their own history.

nolaegghead

History of the Equity Office

Austin has a long history of systemic racism and racial inequity that continues today. Throughout history, communities of color have been excluded, marginalized, and discriminated against as a result of City policies and practices. This history was reinforced by segregationist policies throughout the 20th century affecting a range of Austin venues, including schools, public parks, and commercial businesses, among others.

One of the most disheartening chapters of this legacy was the City of Austin’s Master Plan of 1928, which divided the City along racial lines by moving community services for African American and Hispanic/Latinx residents to East Austin. African-American and Hispanic Austinites who tried to settle in areas outside of the designated district were often denied access services such as utilities and public schools. Despite these challenges, communities of color in Austin thrived and developed strong, close knit, and vibrant communities.

While Austin was most recently recognized by US News and World Report as “The Best Place to Live in the U.S.,” the City consistently makes national lists as a city with severe inequality. In 1950, Austin was fourth in the country for the most income inequality. In 2015, the University of Toronto’s Martin Prosperity Institute listed Austin as the most economically segregated city in the country. Legacies of displacement by wealthier white Austinites and lack of access to opportunity for people of color have marked the city with continued racial disparities.

In an effort to address racial inequity in Austin, City Council passed Resolution No. 20150507-027 in 2015, which directed the City Manager to evaluate the impact of existing city policies and practices on racial equity and develop an Equity Assessment Tool that can be used across City departments during the budget process.

The Equity Office was created in 2016 to focus on advancing equity in all aspects of City operations. The first Chief Equity Officer, Brion Oaks, began this work in October 2016.

HeavyG

nolaegghead said:

History of the Equity Office

Austin has a long history of systemic racism and racial inequity that continues today. Throughout history, communities of color have been excluded, marginalized, and discriminated against as a result of City policies and practices. This history was reinforced by segregationist policies throughout the 20th century affecting a range of Austin venues, including schools, public parks, and commercial businesses, among others.

One of the most disheartening chapters of this legacy was the City of Austin’s Master Plan of 1928, which divided the City along racial lines by moving community services for African American and Hispanic/Latinx residents to East Austin. African-American and Hispanic Austinites who tried to settle in areas outside of the designated district were often denied access services such as utilities and public schools. Despite these challenges, communities of color in Austin thrived and developed strong, close knit, and vibrant communities.

While Austin was most recently recognized by US News and World Report as “The Best Place to Live in the U.S.,” the City consistently makes national lists as a city with severe inequality. In 1950, Austin was fourth in the country for the most income inequality. In 2015, the University of Toronto’s Martin Prosperity Institute listed Austin as the most economically segregated city in the country. Legacies of displacement by wealthier white Austinites and lack of access to opportunity for people of color have marked the city with continued racial disparities.

In an effort to address racial inequity in Austin, City Council passed Resolution No. 20150507-027 in 2015, which directed the City Manager to evaluate the impact of existing city policies and practices on racial equity and develop an Equity Assessment Tool that can be used across City departments during the budget process.

The Equity Office was created in 2016 to focus on advancing equity in all aspects of City operations. The first Chief Equity Officer, Brion Oaks, began this work in October 2016.

That's just PC nonsense. We all know that these days white guys are the real victims.

KennyLee

Oh, the horror. 

The hardest part is all the folks whose last name is Austin or all those kids/adults who have been named Austin over the last few decades who are now going to have to change their name since it's now been put on the PC list.  They'll be pioneers though in a sense since there won't be many names left once the PC/thought police are finished with their crusade.

#eraseallracistnamesinthenameofequalityfairnessandidiocy

nolaegghead

I know, tell that to my son Adolph.

DMW

nolaegghead said:

I know, tell that to my son Adolph.

He sounds like a wonderful boy... I'm sure he has patriotic marches and such.

Fred19Flintstone

JohnInCarolina said:

thetrim said:

Fred19Flintstone said:

We have the same thing here.  Flint Township is not the same as the City of Flint.  Flint Township never had a water problem because it never switched from the Detroit Water System.  However, folks here are tired of explaining to others that they aren't affiliated with the stupidity the City of Flint does.  It's on the November ballot to change the name of Flint Township.  Before the ballot initiative,  they asked folks to submit names for consideration to the Township Board.  I suggested "Sweetwater", but that didn't make the cut.  

It’s a shame all that bad water that happened when Obama was President

And that it still hasn’t been fixed under Trump.  Can’t imagine why...

Water line replacement is going pretty well.  I think I heard they will have all of the residential lines to the homes replaced sometime next year.  
In today's local news, 100% of water samples from City of Flint schools tested under federal standards.  88% of those samples having no detectable lead at all.

nolaegghead

Man, what a SNOWFLAKE!!!

http://addictinginfo.com/2018/07/30/trump-supporter-says-viral-video-of-him-saying-racist-sht-destroyed-his-business-video/

SonVolt

Just rename the city after Austin Powers. Problem solved.

fishlessman

nolaegghead said:

Man, what a SNOWFLAKE!!!

http://addictinginfo.com/2018/07/30/trump-supporter-says-viral-video-of-him-saying-racist-sht-destroyed-his-business-video/

so whitman, texas     then some austin campus snowflake might think they are talking about the texas tower sniper   you just cant win naming a city

nolaegghead

8275309

dmchicago

Jenny's sister?

JohnH12

They can change the name as soon as they add Washington, Jefferson, and several others to the forbidden names list.
Same reasons, right?

SonVolt

I’m sure DC is next. 

GoldenQ

1863 Headquarters

nolaegghead

JohnH12 said:

They can change the name as soon as they add Washington, Jefferson, and several others to the forbidden names list.
Same reasons, right?

Hola, scared person.  I think they might be a bit carried away by changing the name of a city in this case, but I admire your fear mongering....  Same argument I hear all the time until I want to hang myself, but not once in the history of this country has a name been banned.  Just public symbols of what proper names represented.  And those people that were by the very definition not American Patriots, who had roads named after them, and schools.  Seems pretty reasonable to rename those as it is offensive to the oppressed. 

Take the Jews in Germany.  Or the Jews all over the world (not many were left in Germany and Poland after WWII).  If you were one of them, how would you feel going to Adolf Hitler High School?  In your case, probably wouldn't give a crap. 

Post WWII surveys of occupied Germany:

Surveys

The U.S. conducted opinion surveys in the American zone of occupied Germany.[79] Tony Judt, in his book Postwar: a History of Europe since 1945, extracted and used some of them.[80]

• A majority in the years 1945–49 stated National Socialism to have been a good idea but badly applied.[79]
• In 1946, 6% of Germans said the Nuremberg trials had been unfair.[79]
• In 1946, 37% in the US occupation zone said about the Holocaust that "the extermination of the Jews and Poles and other non-Aryans was necessary for the security of Germans".[79]
• In 1946, 1 in 3 in the US occupation zone said that Jews should not have the same rights as those belonging to the Aryan race.[79]
• In 1950, 1 in 3 said the Nuremberg trials had been unfair.[79]
• In 1952, 37% said Germany was better off without the Jews on its territory.[79]
• In 1952, 25% had a good opinion of Hitler.[79]

PS - who's the snowflake?!

DoubleEgger

nolaegghead

Note on above: Seems the percentage of the population who believe in fascism never really changes.

nolaegghead

No matter the country.

TEXASBGE2018

I think for the sake of everyone's sanity we should remove all names from all cities and just number them. Same for streets. Can't get all butthurt can you when the address is 1375 4th Street, City # 6, Texas? Hope everybody can count really high. 

northGAcock

JRWhitee said:

Armadillo, TX

That one sucks Jim. How do you think Armadillo City Limits would sound as you tune in on Saturday night?

nolaegghead

TEXASBGE2018 said:

I think for the sake of everyone's sanity we should remove all names from all cities and just number them. Same for streets. Can't get all butthurt can you when the address is 1375 4th Street, City # 6, Texas? Hope everybody can count really high. 

How about we just don't name public places for people that are *primarily* known as killers of jews, slavers, fascists, traitors and child molesters, and just leave everything else the way it is?

TEXASBGE2018

nolaegghead said:

TEXASBGE2018 said:

I think for the sake of everyone's sanity we should remove all names from all cities and just number them. Same for streets. Can't get all butthurt can you when the address is 1375 4th Street, City # 6, Texas? Hope everybody can count really high. 

How about we just don't name public places for people that are *primarily* known as killers of jews, slavers, fascists, traitors and child molesters, and just leave everything else the way it is?

Because in todays world for some people that's not far enough. Good intentions can and will be taken advantage of often. Its been said a ton and its cliché but "Those who forget history are bound to repeat it." Sure maybe a name change of a city doesn't cause a genocide. Maybe taking a statue down doesn't either.  But given the general ignorance of todays society. If you start revising history and shunning the unfortunate parts of it to the shadows. Eventually you get another Hitler or Mao. So maybe instead of changing the name of a city because mob rule of the day says so. Maybe teach people that what those people did was horrific and wrong and should never be repeated. But also that the challenges in changing something like an enormous city on a whim is also time consuming, costly, and doesn't change the fact that those people existed.

nolaegghead

TEXASBGE2018 said:

nolaegghead said:

TEXASBGE2018 said:

I think for the sake of everyone's sanity we should remove all names from all cities and just number them. Same for streets. Can't get all butthurt can you when the address is 1375 4th Street, City # 6, Texas? Hope everybody can count really high. 

How about we just don't name public places for people that are *primarily* known as killers of jews, slavers, fascists, traitors and child molesters, and just leave everything else the way it is?

Because in todays world for some people that's not far enough. Good intentions can and will be taken advantage of often. Its been said a ton and its cliché but "Those who forget history are bound to repeat it." Sure maybe a name change of a city doesn't cause a genocide. Maybe taking a statue down doesn't either.  But given the general ignorance of todays society. If you start revising history and shunning the unfortunate parts of it to the shadows. Eventually you get another Hitler or Mao. So maybe instead of changing the name of a city because mob rule of the day says so. Maybe teach people that what those people did was horrific and wrong and should never be repeated. But also that the challenges in changing something like an enormous city on a whim is also time consuming, costly, and doesn't change the fact that those people existed.

I agree, and I think 90 percent of everyone agree with that, and we're making a big deal out of some exploratory study that we all know won't be realized, and then some will project that thinking on an entire block of society and be enraged, even though it is displaced, and nothing good but divisiveness and hate will result.

JohnInCarolina

First they came for Adolf Hitler avenue, and I said nothing...