First the Blue Devils and now Even Bears Can't beat Our Cocks!!!!!!!!

YukonRon

JohnInCarolina said:

YukonRon said:

As of now, 3 of the 6 remaining teams in the tournament are SEC. The WCC has as many teams in the tournament as the ACC or the PAC 12. 

Pretty amazing showing for what I thought was a football conference.  I guess they're still trying to make up for Alabama's loss in the national championship.

Nothing will ever soothe that wound for the tide rollers.
I am still scratching my head on the entire seeding process, and the media experts consistently being so wrong.
I have to admit, I knew the SEC was very strong this year, but I did not think they would have shown this well in the tournament, I suppose I too, bought into some of the bias that was so common this year.
I think it is still too early to be an indication of what the future may become of SEC basketball, but it does seem to be encouraging, as of now.
By the way, Bill Self at Kansas, entered this tournament with his 5th number 1 seed, and, as each of the other 4 before this year, failed to get them to the final four. This has to be a record of some sort. Especially painful for the Jayhawk fans, essentially playing at home.
Go Cats.

JohnInCarolina

YukonRon said:

JohnInCarolina said:

YukonRon said:

As of now, 3 of the 6 remaining teams in the tournament are SEC. The WCC has as many teams in the tournament as the ACC or the PAC 12. 

Pretty amazing showing for what I thought was a football conference.  I guess they're still trying to make up for Alabama's loss in the national championship.

Nothing will ever soothe that wound for the tide rollers.
I am still scratching my head on the entire seeding process, and the media experts consistently being so wrong.
I have to admit, I knew the SEC was very strong this year, but I did not think they would have shown this well in the tournament, I suppose I too, bought into some of the bias that was so common this year.
I think it is still too early to be an indication of what the future may become of SEC basketball, but it does seem to be encouraging, as of now.
By the way, Bill Self at Kansas, entered this tournament with his 5th number 1 seed, and, as each of the other 4 before this year, failed to get them to the final four. This has to be a record of some sort. Especially painful for the Jayhawk fans, essentially playing at home.
Go Cats.

It's a single elimination tournament Ron. I'd caution against drawing broad conclusions based on small number statistics.

tarheelmatt

Wolfpack said:

Let's see-

Miss football- facing major investigation
Miss State- recruits a man facing assault charges from an attack on a woman
Ten- facing a multitude of lawsuits 
Vandy- two players (albeit now former players) arrested TWO times for rape
Florida- smoke in the air
Calipari- enough said

But we do have 3 teams in the final 4

Do you find it odd that the head of NCAA is from the SEC? Dude is doing things the wrong way, especially to UNC. Wainsteien report had Roy clean bro. 

tarheelmatt

tarheelmatt said:

Wolfpack said:

Let's see-

Miss football- facing major investigation
Miss State- recruits a man facing assault charges from an attack on a woman
Ten- facing a multitude of lawsuits 
Vandy- two players (albeit now former players) arrested TWO times for rape
Florida- smoke in the air
Calipari- enough said

But we do have 3 teams in the final 4

Do you find it odd that the head of NCAA is from the SEC? Dude is doing things the wrong way, especially to UNC. Wainsteien report had Roy clean bro. 

Last sentence was for OP, not you Wolfpack.

YukonRon

JohnInCarolina said:

YukonRon said:

JohnInCarolina said:

YukonRon said:

As of now, 3 of the 6 remaining teams in the tournament are SEC. The WCC has as many teams in the tournament as the ACC or the PAC 12. 

Pretty amazing showing for what I thought was a football conference.  I guess they're still trying to make up for Alabama's loss in the national championship.

Nothing will ever soothe that wound for the tide rollers.
I am still scratching my head on the entire seeding process, and the media experts consistently being so wrong.
I have to admit, I knew the SEC was very strong this year, but I did not think they would have shown this well in the tournament, I suppose I too, bought into some of the bias that was so common this year.
I think it is still too early to be an indication of what the future may become of SEC basketball, but it does seem to be encouraging, as of now.
By the way, Bill Self at Kansas, entered this tournament with his 5th number 1 seed, and, as each of the other 4 before this year, failed to get them to the final four. This has to be a record of some sort. Especially painful for the Jayhawk fans, essentially playing at home.
Go Cats.

It's a single elimination tournament Ron. I'd caution against drawing broad conclusions based on small number statistics.

This is true, but these teams are very young.
In the tournament, I am convinced it is about how the players match up to one another, but even with the extremely small pool of which to gather data, three teams left, speaks well of how far they had come.
I know little of college basketball. This I admit freely. My reasoning was this year's recruiting class was the highest rated at UK, since Calipari arrived (Higher than the Anthony Davis class that won the tournament).
It was a struggle, most every game, in the SEC for UK.
It had to be due to the fact the league improved their programs, or UK had been falling back.
Simple as it may seem, I knew something special was happening, and the indication from the tea leaves, I had been reading, seemed to reveal the former, rather than the latter.
I dunno. Are they Lucky? Maybe. But the fact remains, they are still playing, deep into this tournament.
Enjoying it while it lasts.

YukonRon

In defense of the teams in the SEC and their scandals, it is difficult to imagine any of the schools in the SEC to top Louisville, an ACC school.
Louisville, in case you forgot,  has admitted paying for under aged prostitutes, in the recruiting of basketball prospects, for sexually perverted parties while supplying alcohol to minors during their on campus visits, in the men's basketball dorm at Minardi Hall. (It was named for Pitino's brother in law, which he lost during 911)
Further Pitino paid for an abortion on a fling he had after hours, on a table in an Italian restaurant, with his ex coach's wife, which later tried to extort him for money. Real classy institution, huh? Do not even get me started on Petrino, the football coach.
I think the ACC has pretty much locked up, the morals and ethics championship category, right there.
So spare me the innocence of the ACC. 
The ACC now has the worst example of cheating in college sports, in the history of the NCAA. This ugly example, of rules breaking, involved all basketball players, specifically to those that won the 2013 championship, and the years prior and after.
Love you guys like brothers, but nobody is above mud in these debates.

JohnInCarolina

May the fans from the athletic conference that is as pure as the driven snow cast the first stone...

YukonRon

JohnInCarolina said:

May the fans from the athletic conference that is as pure as the driven snow cast the first stone...

Yeah, all fall very short of "clean hands," in my opinion. 

pgprescott

YukonRon said:

JohnInCarolina said:

May the fans from the athletic conference that is as pure as the driven snow cast the first stone...

Yeah, all fall very short of "clean hands," in my opinion. 

I can't remember who said it, but something like " if you're winning you're cheating." 

Obviously some are worse than others, but at the big boy level, the stakes are very high and the temptation is unreal. 

camofreak

I do love my Gamecocks and I am so proud of what our basketball team has done this year, but let's not kid about the SEC and basketball. The only way anyone knows basketball in the SEC is Kentucky (and I hate them). All that said. Go Gamecocks!!!

JohnInCarolina

YukonRon said:

JohnInCarolina said:

May the fans from the athletic conference that is as pure as the driven snow cast the first stone...

Yeah, all fall very short of "clean hands," in my opinion. 

My nephew plays D1 ball.  Some of the stories he has about the sort of things that go on at various schools would make your jaw drop.

Wolfpack

YukonRon said:

In defense of the teams in the SEC and their scandals, it is difficult to imagine any of the schools in the SEC to top Louisville, an ACC school.
Louisville, in case you forgot,  has admitted paying for under aged prostitutes, in the recruiting of basketball prospects, for sexually perverted parties while supplying alcohol to minors during their on campus visits, in the men's basketball dorm at Minardi Hall. (It was named for Pitino's brother in law, which he lost during 911)
Further Pitino paid for an abortion on a fling he had after hours, on a table in an Italian restaurant, with his ex coach's wife, which later tried to extort him for money. Real classy institution, huh? Do not even get me started on Petrino, the football coach.
I think the ACC has pretty much locked up, the morals and ethics championship category, right there.
So spare me the innocence of the ACC. 
The ACC now has the worst example of cheating in college sports, in the history of the NCAA. This ugly example, of rules breaking, involved all basketball players, specifically to those that won the 2013 championship, and the years prior and after.
Love you guys like brothers, but nobody is above mud in these debates.

This was obviously bad behavior learned in the Big East. Don't forget we didn't get them until first part of 2013- took us a couple years to begin to shine them up

GATraveller

I hear the Duke Lax team really know how to party. 

JohnInCarolina

GATraveller said:

I hear the Duke Lax team really know how to party. 

If you're looking for a Duke athletics team to hold up as an example of bad behavior, there are probably better options.  Those kids really didn't do anything wrong in the big scheme of things, and while pop culture hasn't exonerated them, the legal system has and then some.

GATraveller

Having strippers at a party, throwing out racial slurs and threatening sodomy with a broom stick aren't the types of behavior I want to see out of my kids.
Pressler is who I feel sorry for - he got shafted. 

JohnInCarolina

GATraveller said:

Having strippers at a party, throwing out racial slurs and threatening sodomy with a broom stick aren't the types of behavior I want to see out of my kids.
Pressler is who I feel sorry for - he got shafted. 

Right, it's just that many folks believe they gang raped the girl. No.

The only part of what you wrote that's established fact is that they had a party and invited strippers.  But I know, trafficking in innuendo is all the rage, especially when applied to wealthy white kids.

northGAcock

Well it's still basketball season in South Carolina....

Foghorn

northGAcock said:

Well it's still basketball season in South Carolina....

Yes it is. Congrats. 

GATraveller

Wow. Who'd a thunk it. 

JohnInCarolina

northGAcock said:

Well it's still basketball season in South Carolina....

Nicely done man - happy for you guys!

I'm also trying to get over the fact that a North Carolina vs South Carolina NCAA final is a distinct possibility.  I'm sure CBS would call that game "CIVIL WAR TWO!"

Acn

pgprescott said:

YukonRon said:

JohnInCarolina said:

May the fans from the athletic conference that is as pure as the driven snow cast the first stone...

Yeah, all fall very short of "clean hands," in my opinion. 

I can't remember who said it, but something like " if you're winning you're cheating." 

Obviously some are worse than others, but at the big boy level, the stakes are very high and the temptation is unreal. 

I always heard it's "If you're not cheating, you're not trying."

pgprescott

Acn said:

pgprescott said:

YukonRon said:

JohnInCarolina said:

May the fans from the athletic conference that is as pure as the driven snow cast the first stone...

Yeah, all fall very short of "clean hands," in my opinion. 

I can't remember who said it, but something like " if you're winning you're cheating." 

Obviously some are worse than others, but at the big boy level, the stakes are very high and the temptation is unreal. 

I always heard it's "If you're not cheating, you're not trying."

That very well could be it. LOL! 

Marty_Huggins

Wolfpack said:

Let's see-

Miss football- facing major investigation
Miss State- recruits a man facing assault charges from an attack on a woman
Ten- facing a multitude of lawsuits 
Vandy- two players (albeit now former players) arrested TWO times for rape
Florida- smoke in the air
Calipari- enough said

But we do have 3 teams in the final 4

baylor has all that beat by themselves and that does not even include the murder and cover up OF TEAMMATES in the dave bliss years. the baptist Rapists stand head and shoulders above every conference as a stand alone enitity. 

YukonRon

I think that was from NASCAR.

Marty_Huggins

tarheelmatt said:

Wolfpack said:

Let's see-

Miss football- facing major investigation
Miss State- recruits a man facing assault charges from an attack on a woman
Ten- facing a multitude of lawsuits 
Vandy- two players (albeit now former players) arrested TWO times for rape
Florida- smoke in the air
Calipari- enough said

But we do have 3 teams in the final 4

Do you find it odd that the head of NCAA is from the SEC? Dude is doing things the wrong way, especially to UNC. Wainsteien report had Roy clean bro. 

ok bro. i don't recall mentioning Roy but he is clean  

what i said is the entire program and university are the dirtiest of all time. if you need Roy to be clean to make you sleep better at night, then ok.

Marty_Huggins

JohnInCarolina said:

GATraveller said:

Having strippers at a party, throwing out racial slurs and threatening sodomy with a broom stick aren't the types of behavior I want to see out of my kids.
Pressler is who I feel sorry for - he got shafted. 

Right, it's just that many folks believe they gang raped the girl. No.

The only part of what you wrote that's established fact is that they had a party and invited strippers.  But I know, trafficking in innuendo is all the rage, especially when applied to wealthy white kids.

yes, wealthy white kids often end up on the wrong side of history. Jesus. even "butt toots" agreed with you on that one 

Marty_Huggins

oh yeah- just checked the scoreboard and...EVEN THE GATORS CAN'T BEAT OUR COCKS!!!!!!!!!!!

Marty_Huggins

Come on Kin-Sucky!

SEC! SEC! SEC!

pgprescott

Marty_Huggins said:

JohnInCarolina said:

GATraveller said:

Having strippers at a party, throwing out racial slurs and threatening sodomy with a broom stick aren't the types of behavior I want to see out of my kids.
Pressler is who I feel sorry for - he got shafted. 

Right, it's just that many folks believe they gang raped the girl. No.

The only part of what you wrote that's established fact is that they had a party and invited strippers.  But I know, trafficking in innuendo is all the rage, especially when applied to wealthy white kids.

yes, wealthy white kids often end up on the wrong side of history. Jesus. even "butt toots" agreed with you on that one 

I often agree with the truth. 

Wolfpack

SC is on fire- Cinderella year? Got me pulling for them. 

Think Kentucky is going to struggle with the fouls in this one.