Attn Tom at CGS: please make rotisserie setup for bge

westernbbq

Ill fabricate my own before i overpay for a joetisserie.  iF bge got around to development of it and announce that they had rotisserie setup for bge, theyll announce it and then tease us with release dates for about a year, and then itll be an overpriced item in the 300-400 range

Please, Tom for the sanity of ceramic grillers everywhere, make a ring, spit and motor setup for all sizes of eggs and you will not be able to keep up with demand

I promise to do my part!

chuckytheegghead

That would be nice

Photo Egg

Tom had basic prototypes spinning on his XL many, many years ago...
He might be interested in dabbling again. You never know.

hondabbq

With the natural convection of the egg itself, what is the need for a rotisserie for an egg in the first place?

Carolina Q

I think it's the self-basting aspect .

Eggaroo

It would give us something else to spend money on that we don't really "need", but would be cool to see your meat spinning over fire.

RedSkip

@tjv Bump

ThrillSeeker

If it's less than the Joetissirie, I'd buy one.

Thecoiman

I think it would be great if Tom made his version of it but I wonder what patients are currently on the joetissirie.

tjv

I made this years ago for my medium egg.  Here is how my impression of spinning food changed over the entire process:

- cool idea,
- cool set up
- fun and different cook
- food is good, seems better in my head. 
- food still good but is it really better than conventional kamado methods, beginning to wonder,
- excitement of being new wearing off.
- beginning to think, spinning is a one dimensional cook.
- starting to get annoyed with having to store the spinning pieces,  it takes some space.  
- starting to get annoyed with cleaning the rods and such, as this stuff needs to store outside of grill. 
- time to cook, grill or spin......food basically the same either way,  what's easiest with least hassle..............grill.........grill it is.........

I did it for about 4 months.......end result, very much like that special toy you always wanted as a kid, got it, and after several months,  it ends up being just another toy in the closet..........

My hunch, only a hunch, is 95% of those who think they want to spin will end up like me,  been there - done that conclusion!

on price, remember kjoe's product is china made......not sure you'll do much better building it the States.  Also, probably a patent or two.

t  

JohnInCarolina

You can buy a cheap rotisserie that will fit on the Egg for like $35.  Google is your friend here.  I don't get the Joetisserie craze, never have, but if folks really can't wait to part with $300 or so, well...

OttawaSmoker

If a stainless rotisserie were developed, I'd but one immediately. The only reason I have a gasser if for the rotisserie.
I have a prototype in my head, just haven't had time to ever follow up with it.

bigbadben

OttawaSmoker said:

If a stainless rotisserie were developed, I'd but one immediately. The only reason I have a gasser if for the rotisserie.
I have a prototype in my head, just haven't had time to ever follow up with it.

Keep in mind KJ owns IP around the joetissary.  You would have to get around the patent 

JohnInCarolina

bigbadben said:

OttawaSmoker said:

If a stainless rotisserie were developed, I'd but one immediately. The only reason I have a gasser if for the rotisserie.
I have a prototype in my head, just haven't had time to ever follow up with it.

Keep in mind KJ owns IP around the joetissary.  You would have to get around the patent 

Who owned the patent on Kamado style grills?

HeavyG

JohnInCarolina said:

You can buy a cheap rotisserie that will fit on the Egg for like $35.  Google is your friend here.  I don't get the Joetisserie craze, never have, but if folks really can't wait to part with $300 or so, well...

The Joetisserie is only of real use if one insists on closing the dome, then the wedge shape of the Joetisserie comes into play.

If one is content to leave the dome open then you're right pretty much any roti rig can be set in place.

HofstraJet

westernbbq said:

Ill fabricate my own before i overpay for a joetisserie.  iF bge got around to development of it and announce that they had rotisserie setup for bge, theyll announce it and then tease us with release dates for about a year, and then itll be an overpriced item in the 300-400 range

Please, Tom for the sanity of ceramic grillers everywhere, make a ring, spit and motor setup for all sizes of eggs and you will not be able to keep up with demand

I promise to do my part!

BGE filed for trademark protection for Eggtisserie earlier this year. So it's likely coming.

bigbadben

JohnInCarolina said:

bigbadben said:

OttawaSmoker said:

If a stainless rotisserie were developed, I'd but one immediately. The only reason I have a gasser if for the rotisserie.
I have a prototype in my head, just haven't had time to ever follow up with it.

Keep in mind KJ owns IP around the joetissary.  You would have to get around the patent 

Who owned the patent on Kamado style grills?

Patents last 20 yrs, then it is public knowledge.  BGE to the best of my knowledge never innovated over the imperial kamados from Japan that predate the 1960's BGE. 

JohnInCarolina

bigbadben said:

JohnInCarolina said:

bigbadben said:

OttawaSmoker said:

If a stainless rotisserie were developed, I'd but one immediately. The only reason I have a gasser if for the rotisserie.
I have a prototype in my head, just haven't had time to ever follow up with it.

Keep in mind KJ owns IP around the joetissary.  You would have to get around the patent 

Who owned the patent on Kamado style grills?

Patents last 20 yrs, then it is public knowledge.  BGE to the best of my knowledge never innovated over the imperial kamados from Japan that predate the 1960's BGE. 

My point is that there are several different rotisserie setups currently on the market, just as there are many different Kamado grills.  I doubt any patent the Joe guys own would realistically prevent BGE or anyone else from developing another.

Boileregger

You can get a Weber kettle and matching rotisserie for the same price as just the Joetisserie and at least that way you get the flexibility of a second grill.  

CincyTiki

You can see the patent application here (it has not yet been granted)
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20130319258A1/en?q=kamadojoe

Canugghead

JohnInCarolina said:

You can buy a cheap rotisserie that will fit on the Egg for like $35.  Google is your friend here.  I don't get the Joetisserie craze, never have, but if folks really can't wait to part with $300 or so, well...

I was going to do that in the summer but didn't want to spend $50-$60 for a rotisserie kit.

Instead I bought a dirty greasy gasser on our version of CL for $50, it included a brand new rotisserie kit and an almost full tank of propane.  Self-cleaned the gasser like an oven, using few handfuls of crushed lumps from the bottom of a bag and few logs. Resold the gasser solo for $100.

Bottom line: Made $50 + propane tank + rotisserie kit for few hours' work, not bad for an unemployed old fart with too much time to kill!

HeavyG

JohnInCarolina said:

bigbadben said:

JohnInCarolina said:

bigbadben said:

OttawaSmoker said:

If a stainless rotisserie were developed, I'd but one immediately. The only reason I have a gasser if for the rotisserie.
I have a prototype in my head, just haven't had time to ever follow up with it.

Keep in mind KJ owns IP around the joetissary.  You would have to get around the patent 

Who owned the patent on Kamado style grills?

Patents last 20 yrs, then it is public knowledge.  BGE to the best of my knowledge never innovated over the imperial kamados from Japan that predate the 1960's BGE. 

My point is that there are several different rotisserie setups currently on the market, just as there are many different Kamado grills.  I doubt any patent the Joe guys own would realistically prevent BGE or anyone else from developing another.

The wedge shaped ring is probably the only unique feature KJ can try and patent. There are certainly other ways to use a roti in a kamado.

HofstraJet

CincyTiki said:

You can see the patent application here (it has not yet been granted)
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20130319258A1/en?q=kamadojoe

Not sure if that's the patent KJ is using or this one.

KJ also filed a patent application for a double-walled air insulated grill. 

Never mind - that was Weber's application.

HeavyG

HofstraJet said:

CincyTiki said:

You can see the patent application here (it has not yet been granted)
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20130319258A1/en?q=kamadojoe

Not sure if that's the patent KJ is using or this one.

KJ also filed a patent application for a double-walled air insulated grill. 

The link for the double walled air insulated grill is the patent app by Weber for their Weber Charcoal Summit Grill.

HofstraJet

HeavyG said:

HofstraJet said:

CincyTiki said:

You can see the patent application here (it has not yet been granted)
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20130319258A1/en?q=kamadojoe

Not sure if that's the patent KJ is using or this one.

KJ also filed a patent application for a double-walled air insulated grill. 

The link for the double walled air insulated grill is the patent app by Weber for their Weber Charcoal Summit Grill.

Oops - searched for Premier Specialty Brands and didn't notice that Weber was the owner. Thanks!

eggnewtoy

The craze is that people like rotisserie and the real benefit is the self basting.  My brother has had a kamando for many years and uses it 3-4 nights a week.  We gave him the joe for Xmas and he was a skeptic until he used it to cook 2 whole chickens earlier this week.  He was blown away by the texture and juiciness of the meat, the crispness of the skin, and the ease of cooking.  Now, he prefers spinning to spachcocking a bird.  Yes, expensive relative to some other accessories however, well worth it.  

westernbbq

eggnewtoy said:

The craze is that people like rotisserie and the real benefit is the self basting.  My brother has had a kamando for many years and uses it 3-4 nights a week.  We gave him the joe for Xmas and he was a skeptic until he used it to cook 2 whole chickens earlier this week.  He was blown away by the texture and juiciness of the meat, the crispness of the skin, and the ease of cooking.  Now, he prefers spinning to spachcocking a bird.  Yes, expensive relative to some other accessories however, well worth it.  

I agree that roti cooking is beyond a novelty.  I used it all the time on my old weber setup....and will get around to a bge homemade setup

Focker

Boileregger said:

You can get a Weber kettle and matching rotisserie for the same price as just the Joetisserie and at least that way you get the flexibility of a second grill.  

Winner winner, chicken dinner.

300 bucks for a OTG and Cajun Bandit.
 
Another reason, I advocate the kettle/egg is the best 2 grill combo.  

Like many discussions here, haterz with no experience are gonna hate.

JohnInCarolina

eggnewtoy said:

The craze is that people like rotisserie and the real benefit is the self basting.  My brother has had a kamando for many years and uses it 3-4 nights a week.  We gave him the joe for Xmas and he was a skeptic until he used it to cook 2 whole chickens earlier this week.  He was blown away by the texture and juiciness of the meat, the crispness of the skin, and the ease of cooking.  Now, he prefers spinning to spachcocking a bird.  Yes, expensive relative to some other accessories however, well worth it.  

The JoeTisserie is expensive relative to other rotisserie units that are available.  Rotisserie doesn't have to be expensive.

Carolina Q

I rigged up a $30 rotisserie from Lowe's on my large egg. The dome was open about 1" or so by the handle (for the whole chicken cook) and I was still able to maintain my target 400° temp. What I didn't like was the smoke/soot accumulation on the outside of the dome. I was able to scrub it off, but I don't want to have to scrub it off! Is it worth an additional $220 to seal it up? Not to me. I can use it on my kettle, though it takes a bit longer. I have no way (yet) to use the lid. And a winter cook with no lid would probably take a week!!

smokeyj

I have my kettle/rotisserie setup so I can't justify buying the joetisserie. You could even get a cheap kettle off Craigslis for cheap and buy this rotisserie.  https://www.amazon.com/Onlyfire-2-Inch-Charcoal-Rotisserie-Masterbuilt/dp/B016VS9QPY?th=1