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pgprescott said:HeavyG said:JohnInCarolina said:HeavyG said:All I want to know is should I go ahead and buy an XL now before Trump puts his planned 35% tariff on Mexican made goods or should I just wait because like so many of his campaign "promises" it will never happen?
I mean, for a guy that was going to "drain the swamp" it's sure looking like he's going to be surrounding himself with insiders. Quelle surprise."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
JohnInCarolina said:DoubleEgger said:
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DoubleEgger said:JohnInCarolina said:DoubleEgger said:"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:HeavyG said:JohnInCarolina said:HeavyG said:All I want to know is should I go ahead and buy an XL now before Trump puts his planned 35% tariff on Mexican made goods or should I just wait because like so many of his campaign "promises" it will never happen?
I mean, for a guy that was going to "drain the swamp" it's sure looking like he's going to be surrounding himself with insiders. Quelle surprise.
On the other note, surely you know he has to surround himself with many people that are experts in the "swamp" environment. This is only intelligent decision making. I am certain he will not have a Ben Rhodes involved in nuclear negotiations. -
pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:HeavyG said:JohnInCarolina said:HeavyG said:All I want to know is should I go ahead and buy an XL now before Trump puts his planned 35% tariff on Mexican made goods or should I just wait because like so many of his campaign "promises" it will never happen?
I mean, for a guy that was going to "drain the swamp" it's sure looking like he's going to be surrounding himself with insiders. Quelle surprise.
On the other note, surely you know he has to surround himself with many people that are experts in the "swamp" environment. This is only intelligent decision making. I am certain he will not have a Ben Rhodes involved in nuclear negotiations."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:HeavyG said:JohnInCarolina said:HeavyG said:All I want to know is should I go ahead and buy an XL now before Trump puts his planned 35% tariff on Mexican made goods or should I just wait because like so many of his campaign "promises" it will never happen?
I mean, for a guy that was going to "drain the swamp" it's sure looking like he's going to be surrounding himself with insiders. Quelle surprise.
On the other note, surely you know he has to surround himself with many people that are experts in the "swamp" environment. This is only intelligent decision making. I am certain he will not have a Ben Rhodes involved in nuclear negotiations.
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JohnInCarolina said:DoubleEgger said:JohnInCarolina said:DoubleEgger said:
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pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:HeavyG said:JohnInCarolina said:HeavyG said:All I want to know is should I go ahead and buy an XL now before Trump puts his planned 35% tariff on Mexican made goods or should I just wait because like so many of his campaign "promises" it will never happen?
I mean, for a guy that was going to "drain the swamp" it's sure looking like he's going to be surrounding himself with insiders. Quelle surprise.
On the other note, surely you know he has to surround himself with many people that are experts in the "swamp" environment. This is only intelligent decision making. I am certain he will not have a Ben Rhodes involved in nuclear negotiations.
Regarding Trump's temperament/character, I'm not sure what to think. I hope that much of what he said on the campaign is not what he actually believes. My main concern is how he will get good advice on national security, when so many career civil servants in that sector came out publicly against him. The Trump campaign has indicated that these people are all "dead" to them.
In any case, I hope that he and the GOP manage to work with the Democrats and find ways to create opportunities and ladders for upward mobility for working-class folks, because I don't see reasonable policies like that on either side of the aisle.
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
DoubleEgger said:JohnInCarolina said:DoubleEgger said:JohnInCarolina said:DoubleEgger said:
Great, then you ought to be able to find evidence that actually backs up your assertions."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
From a long term GOP standpoint, I think it would be a great idea to find a way to get Bernie involved in the administration in some fashion.
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Do you think Democrats will ever quit being dealocrats, and return to the party principles?"Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
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DoubleEgger said:From a long term GOP standpoint, I think it would be a great idea to find a way to get Bernie involved in the administration in some fashion.
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JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:HeavyG said:JohnInCarolina said:HeavyG said:All I want to know is should I go ahead and buy an XL now before Trump puts his planned 35% tariff on Mexican made goods or should I just wait because like so many of his campaign "promises" it will never happen?
I mean, for a guy that was going to "drain the swamp" it's sure looking like he's going to be surrounding himself with insiders. Quelle surprise.
On the other note, surely you know he has to surround himself with many people that are experts in the "swamp" environment. This is only intelligent decision making. I am certain he will not have a Ben Rhodes involved in nuclear negotiations.
Regarding Trump's temperament/character, I'm not sure what to think. I hope that much of what he said on the campaign is not what he actually believes. My main concern is how he will get good advice on national security, when so many career civil servants in that sector came out publicly against him. The Trump campaign has indicated that these people are all "dead" to them.
In any case, I hope that he and the GOP manage to work with the Democrats and find ways to create opportunities and ladders for upward mobility for working-class folks, because I don't see reasonable policies like that on either side of the aisle.
I also am am hopeful for a reasonable leader. -
YukonRon said:Do you think Democrats will ever quit being dealocrats, and return to the party principles?"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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pgprescott said:DoubleEgger said:From a long term GOP standpoint, I think it would be a great idea to find a way to get Bernie involved in the administration in some fashion.
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DoubleEgger said:pgprescott said:DoubleEgger said:From a long term GOP standpoint, I think it would be a great idea to find a way to get Bernie involved in the administration in some fashion."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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DoubleEgger said:pgprescott said:DoubleEgger said:From a long term GOP standpoint, I think it would be a great idea to find a way to get Bernie involved in the administration in some fashion.
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JohnInCarolina said:
If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain
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pgprescott said:DoubleEgger said:pgprescott said:DoubleEgger said:From a long term GOP standpoint, I think it would be a great idea to find a way to get Bernie involved in the administration in some fashion.
Bernie spoke to issues of class, which in my view are legitimately important. He spoke to a genuine concern many citizens have of how they will afford to pay for college for their kids. You may disagree with his solution - of making public colleges tuition-free and raising taxes. But he was trying to address a real issue, one that is actually limiting upward mobility for many people."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:DoubleEgger said:pgprescott said:DoubleEgger said:From a long term GOP standpoint, I think it would be a great idea to find a way to get Bernie involved in the administration in some fashion.
Bernie spoke to issues of class, which in my view are legitimately important. He spoke to a genuine concern many citizens have of how they will afford to pay for college for their kids. You may disagree with his solution - of making public colleges tuition-free and raising taxes. But he was trying to address a real issue, one that is actually limiting upward mobility for many people. -
pgprescott said:
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SkySaw said:pgprescott said:
Do do me a favor, consider all the things you want implemented and done related to CC is done. Now imagine you were wrong. Pretty scary. -
JohnInCarolina said:YukonRon said:Do you think Democrats will ever quit being dealocrats, and return to the party principles?
Right now, I don't see the vision or message, from anyone, in the party.
I do not think people realize how close we are to the loss of freedom, due to being relegated to capitalistic serfdom.
The loss of this election has to be the lowest point in the history of the Democratic party. Unfortunately, it was made by those we trusted, to be the leaders of our party.
"Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
XL and MM
Louisville, Kentucky -
@YukonRon I agree. One party has neglected the working class, while the other has exploited it. That cannot continue for very long without serious consequences, the likes of which we may very well see rather soon."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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pgprescott said:SkySaw said:pgprescott said:
Do do me a favor, consider all the things you want implemented and done related to CC is done. Now imagine you were wrong. Pretty scary. -
pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:HeavyG said:JohnInCarolina said:HeavyG said:All I want to know is should I go ahead and buy an XL now before Trump puts his planned 35% tariff on Mexican made goods or should I just wait because like so many of his campaign "promises" it will never happen?
I mean, for a guy that was going to "drain the swamp" it's sure looking like he's going to be surrounding himself with insiders. Quelle surprise.
Most sober folks knew that wasn't going to be possible for a number of reasons. One of which is that there are likely not enough votes from Republican Congressman to do that because the ACA is actually working quite well for a lot of folks in a lot of red and blue districts.
Of course it was expected that Trump isn't/wasn't going to be able to jump right in and snap his fingers and achieve all the outrageous things he claimed. He is just a president after all, not a king or a dictator. He will quickly learn the power and hold that the K Street crowd has over the rank and file members of Congress.
Which is why I have said that a lot of Trump voters are going to end up being very disappointed and perhaps even angrier than they already are.
Personally, even tho I didn't vote for Trump I am increasingly excited to watch him try to pull all these rabbits out of his hat. Starting with how he is going to be bring back, in his words a couple days ago, those "big league" jobs.
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
SemolinaPilchard said:JohnInCarolina said:
If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain
http://www.winstonchurchill.org/resources/quotations/135-quotes-falsely-attributed
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
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Still a lot of salt in here. Going to be a long 4 years for some of you.
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