Hear ye Mortals....incredible scientific discovery on gravitational waves. Massively weigh in here.

henapple

Is that hard to understand you can believe in God and science? Why do atheist and Christians put God in a box? Everyone has their beliefs but don't assume to know someone else's. After all... Science is really only the struggle to understand a force, a spirit that started everything as we see it. 

nolaegghead

henapple said:

Is that hard to understand you can believe in God and science? Why do atheist and Christians put God in a box? Everyone has their beliefs but don't assume to know someone else's. After all... Science is really only the struggle to understand a force, a spirit that started everything as we see it. 

I don't have a problem with that. 

I just have a problem with politicians (and anyone) with an agenda that tries to legislate some specific religion's (or any for that matter) dogma on everybody and that ignores overwhelming scientific consensus for the same reason.

Is that hard to understand?  America was formed so people can follow their individual beliefs, free from government oppression (Church of England, etc).

henapple

I agree. I'm pretty sure science is taught more than religion in schools... Except Islam. 

Darby_Crenshaw

i'm not talking to you about god, henapple.  i'm just laughing at the idea that college is for sitting there and having them implant information into your head.

people can believe in god all they want.  up until it impacts me.  and no one here is doing that.

i wasn't arguing with anyone about whether god exists or not.

as you said... "Is that hard to understand?"

SGH

nolaegghead said:
  America was formed so people can follow their individual beliefs, free from government oppression (Church of England, etc). 

There is some truth in that, but it goes much deeper than the "Freedom of Religion" basis. I find it ironic that the original settlers founded this country on the belief in the God of Abraham. The true Christian God. Not a stupid made up muslim God named mohammed or alla. If they were trying to escape Christianity as suggested, why then did they establish that very religion if they were trying so desperately to escape it? The answer is simple. It was never about turning away from the true Christian God. Plain and simple.  

nolaegghead

The common core standards were actually developed to encourage creative thinking - to be better problem solvers, which colleges desire over rote learning.   To be a liberated thinker and learner.....that's dangerous from some perspectives.  Not mine.

SGH

nolaegghead said:

liberated 

There you go with those long words again. You just can't help it can you

nolaegghead

Give me liberty or give me death - @SGH - get a dictionary foo!

henapple

Impacts you? You were butthurt over my gofundme cooler post. How did that affect you? 
They teach evolution in schools as the only possible way. Not creation or even, as the majority of Americans believe, divine evolution. 
Schools are teaching the five pillars of Islam but if they required students to memorize the 10 commandments (which wouldn't hurt the asses) some atheist 200 miles away would pitch a fit. If someone questions teaching Islam, you're automatically a Islamophobe. 
Apparently, things do affect others...and not always as you prefer. 

SGH

nolaegghead said:

 @SGH - get a dictionary foo!

I have got one on order. You are in trouble when I figure out what all of those long words mean

JohnInCarolina

Not all Gods are created equal, obviously.

henapple

Most people like John and Nola view God as the cartoon on The Simpsons or as a TV preacher described Him. So closed minded. 

nolaegghead

Not saying that's how I view god, but how's that close-minded?

DoubleEgger

JohnInCarolina said:

Not all Gods are created equal, obviously.

The Brisket god is pretty high in my book...

Darby_Crenshaw

i wasn't butthurt about your gofundme post.  i just said it was a poor way to fund raise for charity (if that was the real cause), or a pretty sad statement about self-reliance (if it actually was about wanting a new cooler without paying for it).

i never mentioned god in your cooler post.  please disabuse yourself of that notion.

SGH

JohnInCarolina said:

Not all Gods are created equal, obviously.

I'm mean this with the utmost respect, the quoted above is one of the most accurate thing you have ever said. It is my hope that you were stating it as fact. Not as sarcasm. But you are certainly correct, there is only one Grand Architect of the universe brother in Carolina. And his name is certainly not allah. 

nolaegghead

So there was more than one god in the old testament?

Darby_Crenshaw

i wish this god would step in and solve some stuff.  instead of just deciding who wins college football games.

SGH

Darby_Crenshaw said:

i wish this god would step in and solve some stuff.  instead of just deciding who wins college football games.

He sure brought Superman (Scam) down a notch or two didn't he

JohnInCarolina

SGH said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Not all Gods are created equal, obviously.

I'm mean this with the utmost respect, the quoted above is one of the most accurate things you have ever said. It is my hope that you were stating it as fact. Not as sarcasm. But you are certainly correct, there is only one Grand Architect of the universe brother in Carolina. And his name is certainly not allah. 

It seems clear to me, at least, that my God is better than other people's God.  I mean, why would I believe in a lesser God?  Or the God of losers?  I don't understand some people.

incidentally, I think this same kind of logic explains why so many people support Trump.  He's a winner.  I bet he worships the God of winners.  Smart man.  I don't know why this is so controversial or surprising.

SGH

nolaegghead said:

So there was more than one god in the old testament?

Jesus himself proclaimed that Satan was God of this world and walked freely about in it with dominion. But his time will soon end.  

JohnInCarolina

henapple said:

Most people like John and Nola view God as the cartoon on The Simpsons or as a TV preacher described Him. So closed minded. 

What's interesting is that you presume to know my beliefs.  Not so open minded, frankly.  The FSM would not approve!

henapple

Darby_Crenshaw said:

i wasn't butthurt about your gofundme post.  i just said it was a poor way to fund raise for charity (if that was the real cause), or a pretty sad statement about self-reliance (if it actually was about wanting a new cooler without paying for it).

i never mentioned god in your cooler post.  please disabuse yourself of that notion.

My yeti was a gift. As a beer drinker a yeti is worthless imho. I will not buy another. It was a joke. Only one person, other than my friends donated. I messaged him and offered a return. It in no way affected you as you didn't donate. 

JohnInCarolina

henapple

nolaegghead said:

Not saying that's how I view god, but how's that close-minded?

We've conversed enough that that's how you view a divine creator. "magic man in the sky". It's ok, it doesn't affect me. I'm not butthurt. 

bhedges1987

Darby_Crenshaw said:

bhedges1987 said: "If anything it would side in the favor of an afterlife since it proves that time can indeed be infinite."


sorry, i confused your use of the word "afterlife" with "heaven".  i don't know how that happened.  maybe the part where everyone else seems to use those words synonymously.

you'll notice though, i didn't use quotes.

you used quotes for a statement you said was by Tyson re creationism.  the guy has never once supported creationism, nor even implied it had any remote validity

he never said it.

perhaps you saw it in a facebook post or a forwarded out-of-context email. 

but your quote does not exist in the wild. 


you give me grief for paraphrasing you (substituting one word for its synonym), while you feel no qualms about completely making up a quote and attributing it to someone with a known opinion exactly opposite what you 'quoted'

this is on par though with people who deny science or like to pick and choose from it whenever it fits their beliefs.  they tend to manufacture evidence, and dismiss real evidence proposed by others.

this diminishes the credit we can give their argument, but they don't seem to comprehend that, unfortunately.

Again.... are you just not comprehending what I am saying?  Did I say Neil Tyson believes in creationism, or are you again making up your own theories? I never said that, as I know for a fact he doesn't.  His point I will tell you again.  Everyone was trying to use the Higgs as a way to disprove some peoples religious beliefs, and that in no way was what the discovery was about, nor is the discovery of gravitational waves. His point was this has absolutely nothing to do with it, BUT if it did, it honestly would give creationists a more compelling argument. Again, he is NOT saying he believes it.  I am not sure what is so hard to comprehend about this. 

I have not stated my beliefs either way, but you and a few others here are claiming I need to pick up a book rather than the bible (though I have given no evidence to show that is what I read.)  For you liberals who can't comprehend and like to bend and twist words to fit your agenda.  It's a free country, as long as everyone thinks as you do right?

I hate to go here but.... As for you telling me to pick up a book.... Perhaps you should pick up a grammar book.  Nothing is more infuriating as someone who is illiterate. 


P.S Science is awesome 

Darby_Crenshaw: Teaching you internet astrophysics since February 11th, 2016.

nolaegghead

I'm not a liberal.  I'm a free thinker.  Not a robot, not a follower.   And at night, I know the sun goes to the other side of the planet, so I am not scared.

JohnInCarolina

Liberals are really good at twisting things to make people question their deeply held beliefs.  They're aholes, basically.

Botch

A lab tech in Ohio fell into a cryogenic tank and wasn't found for hours.
 
He's 0K now.  

nolaegghead

Not many people will get that Botch.

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