My HOA is ordering me to remove my Egg from the property

SmyrnaGA

I would get a transcript of the vote (if there was one).  Keep the egg in the garage and grill on the driveway for now.  Then run for president for the next term. Be sure to invite your neighbors over for some pulled pork or brisket durning the campaign!

Once you're president, outlaw gas grill because they are dangerous and only allow charcoal grills.

scottc454

My Egg is a propane grill.  I use a propane weed burner to ignite the charcoal. 

I follow rules like Bill Belichick.

Legume

DaveRichardson said:

Love it!!!  The Anti-Egg Beeotch!  She's in her late 50's and probably doesn't like her hoard of cats smelling like hickory!

Hickory is a bit too strong for cats, maybe try a nice fruitwood, like peach.

Class_of_75

Thanks for all the feedback. Before I go to Defcon 3, I'm going to follow the advice of @tfhanson and go to the next meeting and see what I'm really dealing with. It may be a neighbor who has a problem with the smoke (small problem) or an insurance requirement (big problem). I've spent some time this morning reading the Condominium Declarations which take precedence over the Rules and Regulations. Apparently the Board got out over their skis a little here, since I have the exclusive right to the enjoyment of my patio, which can however be abridged to enforce a local law or ordinance. Since the fire department is OK with my Egg, I think that's dispositive, as the lawyers say.

I'd like to get some evidence about the risks of ceramic cookers vs. propane grills. I would think the Mothership would have this kind of information. Does anyone have an email address for someone in customer service who I can check with for this?

Hokie_Smoker

Class_of_75 said:

Thanks for all the feedback. Before I go to Defcon 3, I'm going to follow the advice of @tfhanson and go to the next meeting and see what I'm really dealing with. It may be a neighbor who has a problem with the smoke (small problem) or an insurance requirement (big problem). I've spent some time this morning reading the Condominium Declarations which take precedence over the Rules and Regulations. Apparently the Board got out over their skis a little here, since I have the exclusive right to the enjoyment of my patio, which can however be abridged to enforce a local law or ordinance. Since the fire department is OK with my Egg, I think that's dispositive, as the lawyers say.

I'd like to get some evidence about the risks of ceramic cookers vs. propane grills. I would think the Mothership would have this kind of information. Does anyone have an email address for someone in customer service who I can check with for this?

I would ask the local fire department about calls for service, see if they have actual calls for service in your area related to gas vs. charcoal, they may keep those sorts of statistics. I think you are on the right track by going to the board meeting, opening lines of communication always helps. If after you've followed the route of an adult and you get screwed, post the cell number of the person putting the heat on you on this board and we'll text the hell out of them for a few weeks for a little redemption.

Fred19Flintstone

If the situation is hopeless, then invite @SGH over and park one of his units in your driveway.  If you're going to say "screw you", do it with a big unit!

calracefan

bruce.bohannon@biggreenegg.com

SmyrnaGA

Here's a link to the National Fire Protection Association -> www.nfpa.org/~/media/files/research/fact-sheets/grillfactsheet.pdf?as=1&iar=1&la=en

EggHead_Bubba

LOL @SGH... tell us how you really feel! I'm right there with you brother!

fishlessman

table 4 shows that 80 percent of bbq related residential fires are sourced from gas with 17.5 percent from solid fuels. eggs dont accumulate grease like gassers either, grease fires are horrible with gassers and those are the fires that send people to the emergency room, no mention of that in this report, had an 70 year old neighbor lose the skin from his elbow down to his finger tips when his daughter tried to pull him away from the grill fire, the skin just slid right off, nasty fire
https://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/pdf/statistics/v11i1.pdf

also point out the fire screen on the lower vent and that you could build a fire arrester for the top even though its not needed, all you would need is a stack of expanded metal under the daisy to allow air flow and stop sparks, thats how they do it in camp stoves for use in a tent

THEBuckeye

Haha @SGH can caravan ALL his Big Units to your driveway. Invite the entire town, ask the Fire Department to hold a Fire Danger seminar and you can declare the event a Public Service Assembly. 

blasting

Arm around shoulder of HOA president and say in a hushed voice:

 "I understand you have a job to do, but I'm going to ask you nicely one time to rethink your position.  It would really be a shame to have bad things start to happen to the important people in your life."

To strong?  I mean, they are trying to take the man's egg...

SmyrnaGA

fishlessman said:

table 4 shows that 80 percent of bbq related residential fires are sourced from gas with 17.5 percent from solid fuels. eggs dont accumulate grease like gassers either, grease fires are horrible with gassers and those are the fires that send people to the emergency room, no mention of that in this report, had an 70 year old neighbor lose the skin from his elbow down to his finger tips when his daughter tried to pull him away from the grill fire, the skin just slid right off, nasty fire
https://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/pdf/statistics/v11i1.pdf

also point out the fire screen on the lower vent and that you could build a fire arrester for the top even though its not needed, all you would need is a stack of expanded metal under the daisy to allow air flow and stop sparks, thats how they do it in camp stoves for use in a tent

What are 'Other Power Sources'???

DoubleEgger

Nanook said:

THEBuckeye said:

Check this out. The anti-Egg Beeotch......

https://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/3352309-210365959

Not to play devil's advocate, but......
if what the lady says is true, I can sympathize with her. My Eggs are on my deck, and most times when I'm cooking on them, I too have to close the windows, or the house becomes super smokey. I can deal wth my own smoke, but I imagine none of us would be too pleased to have to close our windows every day or two because of smoke the neighbour is creating......just sayin'

Canadians are just too damn nice 

THEBuckeye

@SmyrnaGA Didn't Hannah Storm (ESPN) get her faced burned in a gasser accident?

fishlessman

THEBuckeye said:

Haha @SGH can caravan ALL his Big Units to your driveway. Invite the entire town, ask the Fire Department to hold a Fire Danger seminar and you can declare the event a Public Service Assembly. 

several years ago i had the fire dept send over the guy that does the tuck and roll seminar for the first graders in school. osha was here at work and i didnt have a documented program for fire safety but the fire dept had its school program with certs and all i think snoopy was on the certificates. very educational

DoubleEgger

THEBuckeye said:

@SmyrnaGA Didn't Hannah Storm (ESPN) get her faced burned in a gasser accident?

I did as a kid. Not fun to go to junior high with your face wrapped up like a mummy. 

Nanook

THEBuckeye said:

Nanook said:

THEBuckeye said:

Check this out. The anti-Egg Beeotch......

https://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/3352309-210365959

Not to play devil's advocate, but......
if what the lady says is true, I can sympathize with her. My Eggs are on my deck, and most times when I'm cooking on them, I too have to close the windows, or the house becomes super smokey. I can deal wth my own smoke, but I imagine none of us would be too pleased to have to close our windows every day or two because of smoke the neighbour is creating......just sayin'

Whoever does not like the smell of a grill/BBQ is Un-American.

I'm not American......just sayin'......

SmyrnaGA

THEBuckeye said:

@SmyrnaGA Didn't Hannah Storm (ESPN) get her faced burned in a gasser accident?

@THEBuckeye - That was a gas grill as I recall...
@fishlessman - Table 4 in that report had Gas, Solid, electric, liquid, and 'other'...  I can't figure out what's 'other'?  Solar?  Windmill??  Rubbing my hands together and then touching my food???

fishlessman

SmyrnaGA said:

THEBuckeye said:

@SmyrnaGA Didn't Hannah Storm (ESPN) get her faced burned in a gasser accident?

@THEBuckeye - That was a gas grill as I recall...
@fishlessman - Table 4 in that report had Gas, Solid, electric, liquid, and 'other'...  I can't figure out what's 'other'?  Solar?  Windmill??  Rubbing my hands together and then touching my food???

cooking with lime juice ...very very dangerous

Jeepster47

Nanook said:

I'm not American......just sayin'......

THEBuckeye said:

Whoever does not like the smell of a grill/BBQ is Un-American.

@Nanook ... Last I looked Canada was a part of the American continent.  It's not nice to stick your head in the snow.  Cheers!

Class_of_75

calracefan Thanks for the contact at BGE.

@SmyrnaGA: Thanks for the stats and analysis

@fishlessman: Ditto

@Hokie_Smoker: Thanks for the advice about how to be the grownup here and, if that doesn't work, how to exact retribution.

                       

henapple

I'm telling you. ..driveway. 

Nanook

Jeepster47 said:

Nanook said:

I'm not American......just sayin'......

THEBuckeye said:

Whoever does not like the smell of a grill/BBQ is Un-American.

@Nanook ... Last I looked Canada was a part of the American continent.  It's not nice to stick your head in the snow.  Cheers!

Lol. My bad. I thought it was the North American continent.

Spaightlabs

99% likelihood that it is a requirement of the HOA's property insurance carrier, which may not be selected buy the HOA, but rather by the management company if you are not 100% self-managed.  All HOA's will have a board, but many of them will still have an outside mgt company, at least here in CO.

I have placed a lot of policies for HOAs in CO and several carriers do mandate no charcoal grills, while some disallow propane as well.  The carriers tend to have no flexibility on the issue, and if it is a carrier requirement that board won't have any discretion.

Hope it goes your way, but not optimistic for you.  You sound like you have a good perspective on things.

fishlessman

SmyrnaGA said:

fishlessman said:

table 4 shows that 80 percent of bbq related residential fires are sourced from gas with 17.5 percent from solid fuels. eggs dont accumulate grease like gassers either, grease fires are horrible with gassers and those are the fires that send people to the emergency room, no mention of that in this report, had an 70 year old neighbor lose the skin from his elbow down to his finger tips when his daughter tried to pull him away from the grill fire, the skin just slid right off, nasty fire
https://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/pdf/statistics/v11i1.pdf

also point out the fire screen on the lower vent and that you could build a fire arrester for the top even though its not needed, all you would need is a stack of expanded metal under the daisy to allow air flow and stop sparks, thats how they do it in camp stoves for use in a tent

What are 'Other Power Sources'???

lots of ways to light a fire near a grill, battery from fan unit melts a wire or comes in contact with steel wool whiskey drink in sun magnifies sunlight and lights papertowel on fire, someone leaves a propane tank in a bucket of gasoline and drops a match, can of starting fluid next to a citrinella candle gets punctured by a bbgun you should see what happens if you light a citrenella candle bucket and just drop it in a lake to put it out, it explodes with fire thirty feet high and lights everything on fire, thats the reason they put the tiny little sticker on the bottom of the can telling you not to do that

THEBuckeye

@Nanook

That's ok. An Egger is an Egger in any locale. 

THEBuckeye

And it is Un-American by the way.

mahenryak

Okay.  I apologize in advance for this OT contribution...  but if you're asking the question, 'What's next, flatulence? ', you might not be too far off. 

http://www.oregonlive.com/living/index.ssf/2015/05/how_do_you_stop_your_roommate.html#incart_m-rpt-1

An attempt to inject a little levity...

DieselkW

Grilling by the numbers

•  In 2012, 16,900 patients went to emergency rooms because of injuries involving grills.
• One of every six (16%) home structure fires in which grills were involved in ignition, something that could catch fire was too close to the grill.
• Overall, leaks or breaks were factors in one of every five reported grill fires.
• Gas grills contribute to a higher number of home fires overall than their charcoal counterparts.